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Ken Hollands Last Hurrah

Created by: dilldoughs
Team: 2023-24 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 15, 2024
Published: Jan. 18, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Accurate/Prorated
LTIR Enabled: Yes
Season Days: 192
Days Remaining: 41
Season Remaining: 21%
Projected Cap Hit Prior To Days Remaining Tooltip : $83,504,867
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
Trades
1.
NSH
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Ceci, Cody
  3. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
  4. 2026 3rd round pick (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Mrázek, Petr ($1,900,000 retained)
CHI
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$83,311,667$850,000$650,000$188,333
Prorated Cap Hit

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,125,000$1,094,401
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 6
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$12,500,000$2,669,271
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$5,500,000$1,174,479
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$2,100,000$448,438
C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$8,500,000$1,815,104
C, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,750,000$587,240
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,125,000$1,094,401
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$800,000$170,833
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$925,000$197,526 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
LW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,000,000$213,542
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$900,000$192,188
C, RW
UFA - 2
$1,000,000$213,542
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,000,000$1,281,250
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$3,900,000$832,813
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,600,000$555,208
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$9,250,000$1,975,260
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$2,500,000$533,854
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$1,900,000$405,729
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,750,000$587,240
LD/RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$762,500$162,826
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$807,500$172,435
RW, C
RFA - 1

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Jan. 18 at 1:32 p.m.
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Both teams probably accept, and you did it all under the salary cap without dumping Campbell. I'm impressed! I don't see Holland accomplishing something this impressive, though.
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Jan. 18 at 1:35 p.m.
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Some bad history between Holland and Mrazek from their Detroit days. 😬
Jan. 18 at 2:09 p.m.
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Quoting: SharkTank
Some bad history between Holland and Mrazek from their Detroit days. 😬


Other option is Fleury, for probably the same price and still under the cap. Chance at a cup > old grudge though for Mrazek maybe?
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Jan. 18 at 2:14 p.m.
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Quoting: dilldoughs
Other option is Fleury, for probably the same price and still under the cap. Chance at a cup > old grudge though for Mrazek maybe?


IIRC Mrazek was a RFA and Kenny gave him a lowball offer.

At least in Mrazek's mind it was.

Mrazek took him to Arbitration and they ended up settling on a 2 year deal at the last minute.

Holland used his press dummies like St. James, Khan and Kulfan to throw dirt on Mrazek any time he could.

Kenny loved his son Jimmy Howard because he'd sign any offer Kenny gave him.

Kenny even exposed Mrazek in the Vegas expansion draft but McPhee took Tommy Nosek instead.

Kenny ended up trading Mrazek to Philly for basically nothing before the trade deadline.
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Jan. 18 at 2:15 p.m.
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If we're not going to use him we should also dump Brown in one of those trades.
Wouldn't cost the team we send him to pretty much anything and would save us ~3.2M next season.
Jan. 18 at 2:19 p.m.
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If we're not going to use him we should also dump Brown in one of those trades.
Wouldn't cost the team we send him to pretty much anything and would save us ~3.2M next season.


Brown hit his 10 games with Edmonton, so they have to pay his bonus even if he gets traded. So no point trading him imo, just send him down and clear his cap
Jan. 18 at 2:25 p.m.
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Hawks probably accept assuming they don't re-sign Mrazak to an extension first.
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Jan. 18 at 2:28 p.m.
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Quoting: dilldoughs
Brown hit his 10 games with Edmonton, so they have to pay his bonus even if he gets traded. So no point trading him imo, just send him down and clear his cap


I searched into it and this is my interpretation, may be wrong but nothing indicates that I am.

If we trade Brown we are moving his contract, Performance Bonus as well, with it. We have to pay next year since we're cap strapped and Browns PB is under 7.5% of total cap, however a team like CHI or NSH has cap space and can allow Browns BP to hit their cap this season. We also pay a performance bonus essentially whenever meaning EDM can pay the full 3.225M owed in actual dollars.

Essentially if we included him in the CHI trade at deadline, EDM would free up ~3.2M next season as Browns Bonus would move with him.
Chicago would have the cap hit of 4M for Brown this season, but they don't care since they have ~17M in cap space right now.
EDM would still pay a majority of Browns contract, ~3.75M and Chicago .25M (if done at deadline). Maybe we toss in a 6th as well to take him but it's a HUGE benefit to us to move Brown at deadline.
Jan. 18 at 7:00 p.m.
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Quoting: PurpleHippo
I searched into it and this is my interpretation, may be wrong but nothing indicates that I am.

If we trade Brown we are moving his contract, Performance Bonus as well, with it. We have to pay next year since we're cap strapped and Browns PB is under 7.5% of total cap, however a team like CHI or NSH has cap space and can allow Browns BP to hit their cap this season. We also pay a performance bonus essentially whenever meaning EDM can pay the full 3.225M owed in actual dollars.

Essentially if we included him in the CHI trade at deadline, EDM would free up ~3.2M next season as Browns Bonus would move with him.
Chicago would have the cap hit of 4M for Brown this season, but they don't care since they have ~17M in cap space right now.
EDM would still pay a majority of Browns contract, ~3.75M and Chicago .25M (if done at deadline). Maybe we toss in a 6th as well to take him but it's a HUGE benefit to us to move Brown at deadline.


Your interpretation of Brown's performance bonus is accurate. What not accurate is your take on what it takes to move Brown off the roster. No GM in the league is going to "gift" the Oilers $3.25m in cap space next season for a 6th. Moving Brown will cost at least a 3rd - maybe even a 2nd. Freeing up cap space in this league doesn't come for free.
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Jan. 18 at 7:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Hawksguy81
Your interpretation of Brown's performance bonus is accurate. What not accurate is your take on what it takes to move Brown off the roster. No GM in the league is going to "gift" the Oilers $3.25m in cap space next season for a 6th. Moving Brown will cost at least a 3rd - maybe even a 2nd. Freeing up cap space in this league doesn't come for free.


I pretty strongly disagree, there is almost no cost for teams with cap space to take Brown and the most realistic thing that would happen is he gets included in a deal for essentially nothing.
It doesn't come free, but GM's work to make their team better and if that means they take on a literal 0 cost player to them they're not gunna squash a deal over it.
On his own as a straight dump, yea maybe it costs a 3rd but if it's worked into a larger move that helps both teams it'd be pretty dumb to say no because it'll save EDM cap space when they aren't competing against them.
Jan. 18 at 8:46 p.m.
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Quoting: PurpleHippo
I pretty strongly disagree, there is almost no cost for teams with cap space to take Brown and the most realistic thing that would happen is he gets included in a deal for essentially nothing.
It doesn't come free, but GM's work to make their team better and if that means they take on a literal 0 cost player to them they're not gunna squash a deal over it.
On his own as a straight dump, yea maybe it costs a 3rd but if it's worked into a larger move that helps both teams it'd be pretty dumb to say no because it'll save EDM cap space when they aren't competing against them.


Well I disagree pretty strongly that Brown is going to do ANYTHING to make any team better. He's been a total flop this season.

Yes, the salary cost is minimal, but why would an opposing GM just take Brown from the Oilers for nothing and give the Oilers $3.25m in cap space? Sticking the Oilers w/ that carry over for next season makes them a weaker opponent. That's at least one pretty good player the Oilers can't afford.

I'm 100% certain the Hawks wouldn't take Brown in that Mrazak trade without the Oilers adding a 3rd or an equivalent prospect.
Jan. 18 at 9:03 p.m.
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Well I disagree pretty strongly that Brown is going to do ANYTHING to make any team better. He's been a total flop this season.

Yes, the salary cost is minimal, but why would an opposing GM just take Brown from the Oilers for nothing and give the Oilers $3.25m in cap space? Sticking the Oilers w/ that carry over for next season makes them a weaker opponent. That's at least one pretty good player the Oilers can't afford.

I'm 100% certain the Hawks wouldn't take Brown in that Mrazak trade without the Oilers adding a 3rd or an equivalent prospect.


Agree to disagree I guess, most GMs try to make deals that help their situation and have understandings of the small costs that come with trades to contenders (Ex. retaining or taking back some dead cap to make a deal).
Dubas is also a GM that does exactly that, not unrealistic to assume he would again to gain picks.
 
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