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Created by: GuyCaballero
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 21, 2024
Published: Jan. 21, 2024
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at Sellers everything connects, the last day of one sale is the first of the next
And for all those that think Knies is a top six forward, sure potentailly speaking
....just remember, college boys play 40 game seasons. the wall is coming, if it has not already arrived.
Trades
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TOR
  1. Koivula, Otto
  2. 2024 5th round pick (NYI)
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DET
  1. Abruzzese, Nick
  2. Gambrell, Dylan
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
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Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$83,500,000$77,738,950$0$0$5,761,050
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,550,000$3,550,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$875,000$875,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Jan. 21 at 10:01 p.m.
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Tank it baby
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Why is Detroit selling? 🤔
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Jan. 21 at 10:02 p.m.
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Are you buying or selling make up your mind leafs decline Montreal and Pittsburg minten is considered untouchable Brad literally said he isn’t moving Minten Cowan or hildeby this season if ever
Jan. 21 at 10:03 p.m.
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Detroit declines
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Jan. 21 at 10:06 p.m.
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Quoting: SomeonesOffended
Are you buying or selling make up your mind leafs decline Montreal and Pittsburg minten is considered untouchable Brad literally said he isn’t moving Minten Cowan or hildeby this season if ever


that Habs one is good for both team tho
Jan. 21 at 10:07 p.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
that Habs one is good for both team tho


Leafs aren’t trading Minten and that package isn’t even close to his value
Jan. 21 at 10:14 p.m.
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Leafs aren’t trading Minten and that package isn’t even close to his value


you guys will face sacrifice to pass to the other level ... unless you want to stay on the losing path.
Jan. 21 at 10:16 p.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
you guys will face sacrifice to pass to the other level ... unless you want to stay on the losing path.


We aren’t selling Minten Brad literally said that it just isn’t gonna happen
Jan. 21 at 10:28 p.m.
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We aren’t selling Minten Brad literally said that it just isn’t gonna happen


Leafs have less than an 18-month window before everything falls short for a blow-up... Unless you make some sacrifices to have the right piece for this window.
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Jan. 21 at 10:33 p.m.
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Quoting: SomeonesOffended
We aren’t selling Minten Brad literally said that it just isn’t gonna happen


it won't, until it does.
No D = not winning playoff rounds
Is Minten going to help the Leafs win playoff rounds this season or next?
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Jan. 21 at 10:37 p.m.
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Quoting: GuyCaballero
it won't, until it does.
No D = not winning playoff rounds
Is Minten going to help the Leafs win playoff rounds this season or next?


Maybe next, he isn’t available
Jan. 21 at 10:39 p.m.
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Quoting: SomeonesOffended
Are you buying or selling make up your mind leafs decline Montreal and Pittsburg minten is considered untouchable Brad literally said he isn’t moving Minten Cowan or hildeby this season if ever


Sure, just like DJ Smith's vote of confidence from management.
Losing with faults laid bare (like hey, Vancouver's much better than us) changes management philosophy on the fly
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Jan. 21 at 10:40 p.m.
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Quoting: GuyCaballero
Sure, just like DJ Smith's vote of confidence from management.
Losing with faults laid bare (like hey, Vancouver's much better than us) changes management philosophy on the fly


Leafs aren’t even gonna be buying at the deadline this team isn’t winning anything this year brad has already come out saying he’s throwing the towel in minimum buying if any
Jan. 21 at 10:41 p.m.
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Pittsburgh just signed Ryan Graves to a 6-season deal. I cannot imagine that the Pens will give up on him this quickly in favor of 39 games of an older, slower T. J. Brodie.
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Jan. 21 at 10:43 p.m.
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Leafs aren’t even gonna be buying at the deadline this team isn’t winning anything this year brad has already come out saying he’s throwing the towel in minimum buying if any


well then are the Leafs going onto rebuild because retool shouldn't be an option!
Jan. 22 at 1:50 a.m.
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Quoting: SharkTank
Why is Detroit selling? 🤔


If Detroit makes the playoffs I wouldn't expect Yzerman to buy. Playoffs or not it's more likely that he will be selling. This team was never expected to make the playoffs with all the UFAs they signed was to buy time for prospects to develop.
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Jan. 22 at 2:07 a.m.
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If Detroit makes the playoffs I wouldn't expect Yzerman to buy. Playoffs or not it's more likely that he will be selling. This team was never expected to make the playoffs with all the UFAs they signed was to buy time for prospects to develop.


Yzerman: Hey guys. We're in a playoff spot right now. We have 20 games left. We need to win as many games as possible! No let up! It's a tight race! But I have faith you can do it!

Red Wings players: Yeah Stevie! F Yeah!

Yzerman: Oh and Ghost, Perron and Sprong... you've been traded. Pack your $hit!

🙄
Jan. 23 at 6:36 a.m.
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Quoting: SharkTank
Yzerman: Hey guys. We're in a playoff spot right now. We have 20 games left. We need to win as many games as possible! No let up! It's a tight race! But I have faith you can do it!

Red Wings players: Yeah Stevie! F Yeah!

Yzerman: Oh and Ghost, Perron and Sprong... you've been traded. Pack your $hit!

🙄


Just wait Yzerman has yet to abandon his plan. After last season he had to extend it. Just wait!
Jan. 23 at 6:40 a.m.
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Just wait Yzerman has yet to abandon his plan. After last season he had to extend it. Just wait!


Yzerman only started selling last season after Detroit cratered in that back to back versus Ottawa.

Not only did they lose but they were bullied and embarrassed.

I don't see that happening this season.

They may not get in but they'll compete until the end.

Competing for a playoff spot isn't abandoning his plan.

He built Tampa in stages. He's building Detroit in stages.

His plan doesn't include selling every season. Red Wings have sold more than any team the past 7 years.
Jan. 23 at 11:04 a.m.
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Yzerman only started selling last season after Detroit cratered in that back to back versus Ottawa.

Not only did they lose but they were bullied and embarrassed.

I don't see that happening this season.

They may not get in but they'll compete until the end.

Competing for a playoff spot isn't abandoning his plan.

He built Tampa in stages. He's building Detroit in stages.

His plan doesn't include selling every season. Red Wings have sold more than any team the past 7 years.


Nobody on this site has any f****** patients! There is a direct correlation between developing the players in your system and long term success. Now Detroit currently has 5 players on the roster they drafted and adding at the TDL is going to cost picks and prospects. Think about it:

Why has Yzerman chosen to fill roster holes with UFAs?

Why aren't our prospects seeing more action in Detroit?

Why has he brought up older career AHL players over prospects?

At the start of the season Detroit wasn't a playoff team and probably won't be one this season. Seriously look at Detroit's roster they have 5 3rd pair dmen and unless Walman is paired with Seider he is some where between a 2nd and 3rd pair dman. He also signed a 35yo old goalie. You can't tell when Yzerman filled out this roster with mostly UFAs, he thought it was going to be a playoff team. This season goal was to be more competitive and be in the hunt for a playoff spot longer into the season. You can't buy your way out of a rebuild and spending a bunch of assets at the TDL just because you are a little bit ahead of schedule is exactly that.

You also have to consider that Kane most likely gets traded since he really is after another cup. So then do you hold on to Ghost, Sprong and Perron and risk getting nothing for them?

Yes, owners want to sell tickets but the Ilitch's are smart and If selling less tickets now results in more sellouts down road it’s a no brainer. Before the cap when Detroit won their most recent cups they didn’t break even until the first couple of home games of the conference finals. They hired Yzerman to do a job so he will have full reign and they aren’t going to bug him about sales at least not for a while. As far as the fans go this is HockeyTown. The home of the USNDP and the home of a couple of the best college hockey programs in the US. Michigan also has more players, coaches and officials registered through USA Hockey.
Jan. 23 at 11:05 a.m.
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You're right.

I don't have any patients.

I'm not a doctor.

Are you? 🙄
 
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