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Created by: Lafleur10

Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 23, 2024

Published: Jan. 23, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

MTL

Holtz, Alexander

Additional Details:

Via rumors, MTL is interested in acquiring him so Devils fans, what could this cost us? Or do you think MTL does not have the assets to acquire him?

NJD

Additional Details:

More or less the players that MTL would never include in a trade, everyone else/ every pick is up for grabs.

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Joel Edmundson: $1,750,000 (50%)
Jeff Petry: $2,343,750 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$83,500,000	$57,013,750	$1,170,000	$980,000	$26,486,250

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
		Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4
Pearson, Tanner $3,250,000$3,250,000 LW UFA - 1	Monahan, Sean $1,985,000$1,985,000 ($15,000$15K) C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Harvey-Pinard, Rafaël $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 2	Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Roy, Joshua $835,000$835,000 ($57,500$58K) LW, RW RFA - 3
Pezzetta, Michael $812,500$812,500 LW, RW UFA - 2		Ylönen, Jesse $775,000$775,000 RW, LW RFA - 1
		Holtz, Alexander $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 2	Allen, Jake $1,925,000$1,925,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Harris, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 LD/RD RFA - 2	Kovacevic, Johnathan $766,667$766,667 RD UFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 1
Struble, Jayden $867,500$867,500 ($57,500$58K) LD RFA - 2		Primeau, Cayden $890,000$890,000 G RFA - 2
Xhekaj, Arber $828,333$828,333 LD/RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Dvorak, Christian $4,450,000$4,450,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 3
	Newhook, Alex $2,900,000$2,900,000 C, LW RFA - 4
	Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1

Jan. 24 at 1:35 a.m.

#26

Schuyler

Joined: Jun. 2022

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Quoting: batman

Guhle for Holtz is like me saying Dach for Luke Hughes. Cmon guys.. what is this

Guhle at 22 is half the defensemen Hughes is at 20

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Jan. 24 at 3:44 a.m.

#27

Lafleur10

Thread Starter

Juraj SlafDadsky

Joined: Jun. 2022

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Quoting: dgibb10

Holtz+2nd for Guhle
Holtz for Newhook+2nd
Holtz for Dach+2nd
Holtz+3rd for Montembault+Calgary 1st
Holtz for unprotected Montreal 1st this year
Holtz+1st for Slaf
Holtz for Roy+Calgary 1st+3rd
Holtz+3rd for Matheson+Calgary 1st
Calgary 1st+Montreal 2nd+3rd

Quoting: NHLfan10506

If the Devils were to trade Holtz it would be for good young player with term/control. I’d guess LHD on ELC that is upgrade on Kevin Bahl. So Guhle would be most obvious name. I don’t think picks would be return ask.

Just wanted to say thanks. I made this post just because I started hearing that Montreal could be interested in him and wanted to learn more. I really appreciate all of the feedback/Mock trade values/comparisons.

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Jan. 24 at 7:15 a.m.

#28

GuyGuyGuy

Prime Primeau

Joined: Apr. 2023

Posts: 5,461

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Quoting: dgibb10

And yet Dach's career high in 5v5 points is 19, Holtz is at 20 halfway through the season (again more than anyone on the Habs btw). And now he's coming off a torn ACL and MCL.

Holtz is also younger, with 2 extra years of ELC and then 4 years of RFA compared to Dach who has 2 years of 3.4 mill and then 1 year of RFA.

If you think dach's value increased because he got a bunch of PP1 time, still didn't reach 20 points 5v5, and then tore his ACL and MCL, I don't know what to tell you. It's gone down, not up

Dach has more pts, is WAY better defensively, plays a more valuable position, was a third overall pick, is more physical and has a record of actually being good for more than 1 season.

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Jan. 24 at 4:24 p.m.

#29

sens65

Joined: Mar. 2018

Posts: 7,143

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Quoting: pretzelcoatl

....do you actually think the Devils would take that

I suppose i underestimated how much the Devils value Holtz. The players are the same age and both have put up solid numbers in the AHL, the 2nd is to make up for the fact that Holtz has been good in the NHL and has higher potential.

Jan. 24 at 4:33 p.m.

#30

dgibb10

I Love J Boqvist

Joined: Jan. 2023

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Quoting: sens65

Holtz put up much better AHL numbers 2 years ago than Farrell is now.
Same draft class, holtz much more upside, pedigree.
And an effective NHL producer

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Jan. 24 at 5:29 p.m.

#31

pretzelcoatl

n.1 Topias Vilen fan

Joined: Jul. 2021

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Quoting: sens65

Holtz's D+2 AHL numbers are significantly better than Farrell's D+4 AHL numbers

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Jan. 24 at 5:31 p.m.

#32

dgibb10

I Love J Boqvist

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Quoting: pretzelcoatl

Holtz's D+2 AHL numbers are significantly better than Farrell's D+3 AHL numbers

More than that. Holtz and Farrell are the same draft class.

Holtz 21-22 vs Farrell 23-24. Holtz is 2 years ahead of the curve and still much better production back then

Jan. 24 at 5:31 p.m.

#33

pretzelcoatl

n.1 Topias Vilen fan

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Quoting: dgibb10

More than that. Holtz and Farrell are the same draft class.

Holtz 21-22 vs Farrell 23-24.

Oh right I misread Farrell's page. Should have said D+4

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