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Created by: LC_Colorado

Team: 2023-24 Pittsburgh Penguins

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 23, 2024

Published: Jan. 23, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Trades

PIT

Kuzmenko, Andrei
Räty, Aatu
2024 1st round pick (VAN)

Additional Details:

Pens get a good Center prospect (they need those) and a 1st (since they’re most likely not getting their own back)

VAN

Guentzel, Jake

Additional Details:

As much as I want Guentzel to stay a Penguin, we may have to trade him. After Willy Nylander signed that $11.5M AAV extension, Guentzel is probably going to want something high like that. At least here Pens can get some kind of haul for Guentz while they still have him.

PIT

Hanifin, Noah

Additional Details:

Pens need a Top Pairing LD. Dubas brought in Graves in free agency to be the big and tall dman that we need on our top pair. However, this has shown to not work that well. Graves doesn’t really fit anywhere on our pairings, so it’s time we let him go.

I suggested this trade a while back too and people didn’t really hate it. I find it to be a good trade. However, Pens do also have to retain $1.5M on Graves which will bite into their dead cap for 6 years (because I doubt that either A. Anybody wants him or B. Anyone wants to retain $1.5M for 6 years straight).

Also Pens can add a 4th for retention

CGY

Graves, Ryan ($1,500,000 retained)
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
2026 1st round pick (PIT)

PIT

2024 3rd round pick (NJD)

NJD

Smith, Reilly

Additional Details:

Any Team

PIT

2024 6th round pick (VGK)

VGK

Harkins, Jansen

Additional Details:

Any Team

PIT

2024 5th round pick (SEA)

COL

Ruhwedel, Chad

Additional Details:

Any Team

PIT

Bunting, Michael

CAR

What would his cost be? (That being if Carolina wants to trade him)

PIT

Lyubushkin, Ilya

ANA

What would his cost be?

(Retention would also be needed)

Buyouts

Jack Johnson: $916,667

Retained Salary Transactions

Jeff Petry: $1,562,500 (25%)
Ryan Graves: $1,500,000 (33.33%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$83,500,000	$78,654,342	$0	$0	$4,845,658

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bunting, Michael $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 3	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Rust, Bryan $5,125,000$5,125,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 5
Kuzmenko, Andrei $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Malkin, Evgeni $6,100,000$6,100,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Rakell, Rickard $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 5
O'Connor, Drew $925,000$925,000 LW UFA - 2	Eller, Lars $2,450,000$2,450,000 C UFA - 2	Puustinen, Valtteri $775,000$775,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Hinostroza, Vinnie $775,000$775,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Acciari, Noel $2,000,000$2,000,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	Carter, Jeff $3,125,000$3,125,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hanifin, Noah $1,237,500$1,237,500 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Karlsson, Erik $10,000,000$10,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 4	Jarry, Tristan $5,375,000$5,375,000 G M-NTC UFA - 5
Pettersson, Marcus $4,025,175$4,025,175 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Letang, Kris $6,100,000$6,100,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Nedeljkovic, Alex $1,500,000$1,500,000 G UFA - 1
Shea, Ryan $775,000$775,000 LD UFA - 1	Lyubushkin, Ilya $687,500$687,500 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Nieto, Matt $900,000$900,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
		Ludvig, John $775,000$775,000 LD RFA - 2

Jan. 23 at 10:27 p.m.

pens1991

Joined: Jul. 2022

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No on Lyubushkin
Pens and CGY decline (Flames can get better deal, pens aren't going to retain for 5 seasons).
NJD also probably declines, feel like they need more on the blue line/in net.

Jan. 23 at 10:45 p.m.

MoSeider53

Future Norris guy

Joined: Aug. 2022

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So basically the Pens are in a selloff here, Yet they trade for Noah Hanifin. Yeah i seriously doubt that.

Jan. 23 at 10:53 p.m.

remowilliams

Joined: Dec. 2018

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Canucks pass. Too much for a rental.IMHO.

Jan. 23 at 10:59 p.m.

Vancity2196

Joined: Mar. 2022

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Canucks pass.
Dubas isnt interested in Kuzmenko.
He rather keep Guentzel than trade him.

Jan. 23 at 11:02 p.m.

OldNYIfan

Once a Kings Fan Too

Joined: Jun. 2018

Posts: 40,864

Likes: 25,679

"It’s time we let him go"?!?!? Ryan Graves hasn't played 45 games for you yet. He's third on your team in plus-minus (among defenders) and fourth in ice time. What did you expect from a guy who's new to the organization? And what if Noah Hanifin decides to go elsewhere next July? Then instead of having Ryan Graves for 5 more seasons as part of your top 4, you have a Ryan-Graves-sized hole that has to be re-filled, the cost of which is going to be increased by $1.5 million per season because of the retention. Meanwhile, you've also given up your 2024 first, which could be as early as 12th overall. And what's the basis for thinking that Hanifin is going to mesh better with the team in 35 games under fire than Graves has in 44 plus all of training camp?

Personally, as a completely disinterested outsider, this seems like a short-sighted and risky approach and highly likely to be a disastrously losing strategy.

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Jan. 24 at 12:02 a.m.

Victor24

Joined: Mar. 2023

Posts: 2,813

Likes: 956

Quoting: OldNYIfan

You could have had a "dug your own grave" pun in there with the retention....

Missed opportunities

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Jan. 24 at 1:55 a.m.

zackhendo

VanFan12

Joined: Jun. 2021

Posts: 321

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Looks fair price for Guentzel. I kind of hope Canucks don't do that - but it looks in the realm of possibilities.

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