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MTL TDL

Created by: Jobob77
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 24, 2024
Published: Jan. 25, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Akey, Beau
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Monahan, Sean ($992,500 retained)
2.
MTL
  1. Kuzmenko, Andrei
  2. 2024 4th round pick (VAN)
3.
MTL
  1. 2024 6th round pick (STL)
  2. 2025 5th round pick (CAR)
PHI
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. 2024 7th round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$78,142,916$1,170,000$3,977,500$5,357,084
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
RFA - 4
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
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UFA - 4
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$775,000$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$867,500$867,500 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 2
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$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1

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Jan. 25 at 9:37 a.m.
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Canucks pass. No interest in Harris for that price.Were looking for a top six forward.IMHO.
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Jan. 25 at 9:44 a.m.
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Canucks pass value isn't there and package doesn't fit our needs
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Jan. 25 at 9:51 a.m.
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Jan. 25 at 9:55 a.m.
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Maybe Kuzmenko could be dealt to Montreal in the offseason for Dach. But I don't see a deal for Kuzmenko to Montreal not upsetting one of both franchises.
Jan. 25 at 10:06 a.m.
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Nah. I don't think they want to get slower down the middle. Monohan looks good by counting numbers but he's getting a lot of PP time, which wouldn't translate to Edmonton. Also, I happen to think very highly of Akey.
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Jan. 25 at 10:29 a.m.
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Canucks pass. No interest in Harris for that price.Were looking for a top six forward.IMHO.


It gives you the cap space to acquire one and provides a good cheap young D that can play both sides.
Jan. 25 at 10:35 a.m.
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It gives you the cap space to acquire one and provides a good cheap young D that can play both sides.


Its a waste of assets that could be used for a trade that meets our needs.A top 6 forward.Why trade for a player who would be our 8th or 9th dman.Just my opinion.
Jan. 25 at 10:39 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
Canucks pass value isn't there and package doesn't fit our needs


You really think that a 28 YO 0.5 scoring winger that get bench from time to time has a ton of value? Even VAN fans thinks that Kuzmenko could fetch a 3rd rounder max.

Harris fills a need as a young LHD. You’ve got Quinn Hughes, Mynio and D-EP. Wouldn’t call that a deep LHD prospect pool.
Jan. 25 at 10:44 a.m.
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Maybe Kuzmenko could be dealt to Montreal in the offseason for Dach. But I don't see a deal for Kuzmenko to Montreal not upsetting one of both franchises.


That’s being delusional. Let’s just do Anderson for Hoglander if trading a near 30 yo winger gets you a promising forward.
Jan. 25 at 10:50 a.m.
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Quoting: remowilliams
Its a waste of assets that could be used for a trade that meets our needs.A top 6 forward.Why trade for a player who would be our 8th or 9th dman.Just my opinion.


I personally think (and some VAN fans thinks) that Kuz doesn’t have that much value due to his underwhelming season, his contract and the fact that it doesn’t seem to work with Tocchet. Harris would be minimum you’re 7th D if not higher this season. He could easily be you’re 5th-6th D next season.
Jan. 25 at 10:55 a.m.
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MTL should keep Jordan Harris rather than trading him, and they don’t need Kuzmenko.
Jan. 25 at 10:57 a.m.
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Quoting: Jobob77
You really think that a 28 YO 0.5 scoring winger that get bench from time to time has a ton of value? Even VAN fans thinks that Kuzmenko could fetch a 3rd rounder max.

Harris fills a need as a young LHD. You’ve got Quinn Hughes, Mynio and D-EP. Wouldn’t call that a deep LHD prospect pool.


I'd project D-EP better than Harris, Mynio has been good in the CHL this year, That's not including the roster guys we have right now in Zadorov and Soucy, there's just no room from him if Kuzmenko's value isn't high we aren't moving him, it's almost never the best bet to sell low on players, Vancouver will only move him if it makes the team better, this package does not, Vancouver is better off waiting it out and hope Kuzmenko counties to find his game as he as lately, He's still a 2nd year NHL player they are coaching the hell out of him with the scratches and it's starting to pay off with his game off the puck looking such much better.
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Jan. 25 at 11:25 a.m.
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Quoting: Vancity2196
MTL should keep Jordan Harris rather than trading him, and they don’t need Kuzmenko.


Log jam at LD. If you can get a low pick and bounce back project, it could be intersting for MTL.
Jan. 25 at 11:26 a.m.
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Quoting: Jobob77
I personally think (and some VAN fans thinks) that Kuz doesn’t have that much value due to his underwhelming season, his contract and the fact that it doesn’t seem to work with Tocchet. Harris would be minimum you’re 7th D if not higher this season. He could easily be you’re 5th-6th D next season.


Your missing the point.We are NOT lookIng for a 7th dman.Were looking for a TOP 6 FORWARD.Kuzy if traded will fetch
More than a 7th dman.Imho.
Jan. 25 at 11:32 a.m.
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I'd project D-EP better than Harris, Mynio has been good in the CHL this year, That's not including the roster guys we have right now in Zadorov and Soucy, there's just no room from him if Kuzmenko's value isn't high we aren't moving him, it's almost never the best bet to sell low on players, Vancouver will only move him if it makes the team better, this package does not, Vancouver is better off waiting it out and hope Kuzmenko counties to find his game as he as lately, He's still a 2nd year NHL player they are coaching the hell out of him with the scratches and it's starting to pay off with his game off the puck looking such much better.


Kuzmenko is still a defensive liability and if he’s not scoring, Allvin will possibly want to move him to make a big push for the cup. I watched the 5 last Canucks game and Tocchet will probably not want to dress Kuzmenko in the playoffs with how he is playing.
Jan. 25 at 11:36 a.m.
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Kuzmenko is still a defensive liability and if he’s not scoring, Allvin will possibly want to move him to make a big push for the cup. I watched the 5 last Canucks game and Tocchet will probably not want to dress Kuzmenko in the playoffs with how he is playing.


If that is possible would mean that Kuz would be used to balance the salary coming in if Allvin is going all in. Which may happen but still will consider similar to Beauvillier last year. I don't think they'll deal him to a random team first for a bad return.
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Jan. 25 at 11:38 a.m.
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Your missing the point.We are NOT lookIng for a 7th dman.Were looking for a TOP 6 FORWARD.Kuzy if traded will fetch
More than a 7th dman.Imho.


You’re missing my point. Kuzmenko doesn’t have that much value presently and won’t fetch a top 6 forward. However it gives you the cap to make a move for a top 6. Juulsen and Friedman are far from great playoffs depth. VAN doesn’t have a deep LHD prospect pool. Harris is a great add for a team that’s making a push, shed some salaries, acquire good and cheap D for next year.
Jan. 25 at 11:42 a.m.
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If that is possible would mean that Kuz would be used to balance the salary coming in if Allvin is going all in. Which may happen but still will consider similar to Beauvillier last year. I don't think they'll deal him to a random team first for a bad return.


Depends with who you are trading. Maybe the trade partner value cap space and don’t want to receive a big salary in return. I wouldn’t call Harris a bad return either. He would be at least a mid 2nd round pick in a 2018 redraft.
Jan. 25 at 11:47 a.m.
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Quoting: Jobob77
You’re missing my point. Kuzmenko doesn’t have that much value presently and won’t fetch a top 6 forward. However it gives you the cap to make a move for a top 6. Juulsen and Friedman are far from great playoffs depth. VAN doesn’t have a deep LHD prospect pool. Harris is a great add for a team that’s making a push, shed some salaries, acquire good and cheap D for next year.


Then we will NOT trade him.Trading him low makes Zero sense.we have one of the best defenses in the NHL.We Do NOT need a seventh dman.Maybe try staying up and watching some Canucks games so you get a better idea of our team needs and assets.just a suggestion.
Jan. 25 at 11:58 a.m.
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Then we will NOT trade him.Trading him low makes Zero sense.we have one of the best defenses in the NHL.We Do NOT need a seventh dman.Maybe try staying up and watching some Canucks games so you get a better idea of our team needs and assets.just a suggestion.


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Kuzmenko is still a defensive liability and if he’s not scoring, Allvin will possibly want to move him to make a big push for the cup. I watched the 5 last Canucks game and Tocchet will probably not want to dress Kuzmenko in the playoffs with how he is playing.
Jan. 25 at 12:07 p.m.
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Thats your opinion which you are entitled too.As an avid Canucks fan i completley disagree.So i guess we agree to disagree.Many Canucks fans also disagree.IMHO.
Jan. 25 at 12:12 p.m.
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MTL should keep Jordan Harris rather than trading him, and they don’t need Kuzmenko.


I believe trading Harris is inevitable. Struble is at least equivalent and Guhle, Hutson, Xhekaj, are all more valuable.
You are correct that Montreal has no need for Kuzmenko. His contract doesn't work for us with his term expiring next year.

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Canucks pass. No interest in Harris for that price.Were looking for a top six forward.IMHO.

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Maybe Kuzmenko could be dealt to Montreal in the offseason for Dach. But I don't see a deal for Kuzmenko to Montreal not upsetting one of both franchises.


If you're looking for a top 6 forward and trading Kuzmenko, the implication is that he is not a top 6 forward. Dach is an innappropriate demand as such.
A top 6D for a bottom 6 forward is reasonable enough when you consider Vancouver has a lot of pending openings on defense next season and Harris is a proven capable young defender with team control beyond next season.
There's also the consideration of the cap space gained allowing for the acquisition of one or more additional pieces.
Of course Kuzmenko doesn't fit Montreal's timeline, so it's a moot point, but I don't understand the perspectives here.
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Jan. 25 at 12:19 p.m.
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*whispers*

(philadelphia is on jake's no trade list)
Jan. 25 at 12:29 p.m.
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I believe trading Harris is inevitable. Struble is at least equivalent and Guhle, Hutson, Xhekaj, are all more valuable.
You are correct that Montreal has no need for Kuzmenko. His contract doesn't work for us with his term expiring next year.




If you're looking for a top 6 forward and trading Kuzmenko, the implication is that he is not a top 6 forward. Dach is an innappropriate demand as such.
A top 6D for a bottom 6 forward is reasonable enough when you consider Vancouver has a lot of pending openings on defense next season and Harris is a proven capable young defender with team control beyond next season.
There's also the consideration of the cap space gained allowing for the acquisition of one or more additional pieces.
Of course Kuzmenko doesn't fit Montreal's timeline, so it's a moot point, but I don't understand the perspectives here.


You play Kuzmenko with Newhook and Dach. Hope he plays good till the next TDL. If he bounces back with a good season next year you trade him 50% retained at the TDL. Quite like the idea personally.
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Jan. 25 at 12:29 p.m.
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*whispers*

(philadelphia is on jake's no trade list)


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