Calgary has Vladar and Wolf, They don't need Schmid and that's not enough for Hanifin and Markstrom retained for $1,000,000 for the next 2.25 years.

1st+3rd for unretained Hanifin checks out.

Vladar is hot garbage


Casey+Schmid is plenty for Markstrom.

yeesh no

Hasn’t it been reported that Markstrom is not available? I believe a couple of outlets have said CGY won’t even approach him to waive. Maybe some Calgary fans have heard something different.

They aren't going to approach him for a BS offer. I'm sure they guy wants to win a cup, and his play this year has been a complete reversal. He is the only reason we aren't swimming with the sharks.

Hanifin is having a better year than Lindholm, and is younger. Why would they take a worse deal for Hanifin?

Markstrom is having an excellent season. There is no need to trade him unless the offer changes the course of the rebuild.

Lindholm is a center.

I completely agree. The flames should keep Markstrom. I would not want NJD to go anywhere near a 34 year old goalie with expensive term.

...A defensive center having a statistically poor year. It's a apt litmus test for the market. Conversely, Hanifin is a top pairing LD on pace for 50pts who is only 26. Sure, he isn't a right shot RD, but he fits the mould for more teams. Conroy set a precedent and will try and drive the market up as much as possible.

NJ needs a goalie. 34 or not. The team is too deep and talented to be playing this poorly. Just 2pts separates Calgary and NJ. Other than in net, and perhaps a shutdown damn, NJ is better across the whole roster. Injuries or not, that's the difference.

Either they approach him or they don't.

Unless Conroy is an unusually passive GM, I don't see how that works...

"unless they are blown away" means "no"

Yes. Markstrom has been much better than Vanacek this year.

Vanacek was much better last year. Who’s to say the ever inconsistent Markstrom doesn’t fall off in jersey.

Goalies have rarely performed well into their mid 30s.

The thing is, trading for Markstrom won’t go back in time and change the season so far. And I can name probably 15 or so goalies I’d rather have going forward

He has a NMC and just had a baby. Calgary isn't coming to him because someone offered a 3rd and a Prospect. It means they won't waste his time or theirs on a subpar offer.

Markstrom has had one bad year since becoming a starter in 2016. During that span he has a .911 sv% and 2.66 GAA. That's including the abysmal season last year. He has actually been very consistent his entire career. Goalies decline like any other player. The key difference is that most NHl goalies don't have a starting position until they are 27. That's a lot different than a forward or even defenseman. Projections revolve around decking stats regardless of the league or competition. The age production curve is actually quite asymptotic until 36 when you see 6bps drops in SV % each year. That's not to mention the small sample size of goal tenders in general (only 64 -78 play). In any case Vanacek has never been vastly better despite his younger bias.

Which goalies have performed at a high level from age 34-36 in recent memory? The only one recently who was even like decent over the 3 year span was Mike Smith. Even Lundqvist fell off right at 34.

Goalies are getting younger and younger. Heck look back to last year. Of the top 15 goalies in GSAx not a single one was in their 30s

Understandable...and its a little frustrating to see so many Markstrom rumors when he is one of the few guys with the 'unavailable' sign

And it’s a large portion of the Markstrom offers coming from calgarys side

I was thinking more about the blogger, reporters, speculators, etc...but yeah, on ACGM too.

I completely agree with that from Calgary’s perspective.

But from every other team (including jersey’s).

-34 year old goalie, lowers value
-full NMC, lowers value
-6 million dollar contract, lowers value
-has been bad imo in 20-21 and 22-23.

Any jersey fans making offers for Markstrom should up their offers if they want to indicate a realistic price as a buyer.

But any Calgary fan selling Markstrom need to seriously lower the asks if they’re the ones trying to initiate the process.

And those 2 aspects are so far apart that I’d be shocked if Markstrom was traded, especially if Calgary refuses to retain

If it’s coming from jersey fans buying, I understand those points.

But when it’s coming from Calgary fans trying to sell, using a full NMC to argue a players trade value being higher is just upside down to me. From the other 31 teams perspective that NMC significantly lowers his trade value.

I think it just means, "unavailable"...they probably know the market would be light for him in-season anyway.

Yeah, I think the guy deserves a shot at a cup, but there isn't much you can do if he is happy. At the very least he is a good mentor for Wolf.

I had NJ pegged for the ECF this year so it's surprising that the goaltending has been their Achilles heel. Then again, I thought buffalo and Ottawa would be in the playoffs race so clearly I'm missing some element of their defensive game.

I think last year was his truly only BAD season. Other years, and even the start of this season, one could single out our defensive play. But last year he let 11 goals in on the first shot. It was the worst case of the yips I had ever seen. Inexplicable...truly bad. Whereas, the start of this year was all on our defense: terrible give aways in the slot, two on ones...just bad. If you look at his numbers after game 15, they are Vezina calibre. Could he have another bad year? Maybe. But his record is consistent for expected goals against.

He is no Kipprusoff, but could win the right team a cup. He's also the best goalie available for the right price. Vegas went after Hill because they saw that San Jose D coverage exposed him too much on lateral slot passes. They addressed it when they acquired him and he ran with it. Just like Dubnyk when he went to Minnesota. It's probably more about the goalie matching your D structure than anything.