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Created by: CameronFlames
Published: Feb. 9 at 9:47 p.m.
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Season Days: 42/192 (22%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Calgary FlamesCalgary Flames

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Hanifin, NoahCalgary FlamesNHL-$1,082,813011---5191928--
2026 3rd round pick (Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVAN)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Bahl, KevinNew Jersey DevilsNHL-$229,688011---49088--
2025 1st round pick (Logo of the New Jersey DevilsNJD)---100------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$664,8032344654711
Change$853,1250001-10
Final$1,517,928 (↑)2344655 (↑)6 (↓)11-9-11-20

Logo of the New Jersey DevilsNew Jersey Devils

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Bahl, KevinNew Jersey DevilsNHL-$1,050,000011---49088--
2025 1st round pick (Logo of the New Jersey DevilsNJD)---100------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Hanifin, NoahCalgary FlamesNHL-$4,950,000011---5191928--
2026 3rd round pick (Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVAN)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$9,637,5002345673511
Change-$3,900,000000-110
Final$5,737,500 (↓)2345672 (↓)6 (↑)1191120
Feb. 9 at 11:15 p.m.
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SOLD

I'll drive him to the airport myself
Feb. 9 at 11:52 p.m.
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Deal
Feb. 10 at 1:01 a.m.
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Edited Feb. 10 at 1:06 a.m.
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I'll drive him to the airport myself


Calgary agrees if you move that 1st to a 2024 not a 2025 and also try and balance for Mercer or Holtz.
Look at Lindholm's return Hanifin is close to that.
Feb. 10 at 2:21 a.m.
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Calgary agrees if you move that 1st to a 2024 not a 2025 and also try and balance for Mercer or Holtz.
Look at Lindholm's return Hanifin is close to that.


Mercer or Holtz is not involved in anyway.

On the Lindholm return. 1st+Bahl=1st+Bruz

Kuzmenko was a cap dump (Vanacek as a comp?)
4th+nothing prospect

NJD is happy to throw in Vitek, Ethan Edwards and a 4th.
Feb. 10 at 12:27 p.m.
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Deal


ya sorry devils it takes more than a 1st for 27 yr old Hanifin.dont need Bahl and not giving up 3rd. this is how a deal with jersey goes.Hanifin for your 1st and Holtz,maybe then we will give you a 3rd.
Feb. 10 at 12:42 p.m.
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ya sorry devils it takes more than a 1st for 27 yr old Hanifin.dont need Bahl and not giving up 3rd. this is how a deal with jersey goes.Hanifin for your 1st and Holtz,maybe then we will give you a 3rd.


1st+2nd
1st+Bahl
1st+Clarke
1st+Stillman
Take your pick

Holtz wouldn’t be on the table for a rental.
Feb. 10 at 12:48 p.m.
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1st+2nd
1st+Bahl
1st+Clarke
1st+Stillman
Take your pick

Holtz wouldn’t be on the table for a rental.


Hanifin wont be a rental, he has a offer of 7.5 times 8 yrs on the table.whoever he goes to will sign him for that. you are over valueing Holtz.so the flames move him to Boston were Hanifin is from,for there 1st in 2025 and Mason Lohrei.
Feb. 10 at 1:08 p.m.
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Hanifin wont be a rental, he has a offer of 7.5 times 8 yrs on the table.whoever he goes to will sign him for that. you are over valueing Holtz.so the flames move him to Boston were Hanifin is from,for there 1st in 2025 and Mason Lohrei.


I’d argue our currently 14th overall 1st is worth more than that alome.

But regardless if that’s the Boston offer, my response would be 25 1st+Bahl+Clarke. If that doesn’t get it done oh well
Feb. 10 at 1:12 p.m.
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I’d argue our currently 14th overall 1st is worth more than that alome.

But regardless if that’s the Boston offer, my response would be 25 1st+Bahl+Clarke. If that doesn’t get it done oh well


if you guys had Marky it wouldnt be 14th for long.you never answered me,is Dougie going to be back for the playoffs.
Feb. 10 at 1:19 p.m.
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if you guys had Marky it wouldnt be 14th for long.you never answered me,is Dougie going to be back for the playoffs.


Dougie might be back for the playoffs. Maybe not round 1 tho.

This also is a Hanifin offer not Markstrom.

If NJD is in a position to be buying after the stadium series game vs Philly,

My offer as stands
1st+Bahl for 50% Hanifin
1st+1st+Vitek for 50% Markstrom

Or all together 3 1sts+Bahl and Vitek for them both at 50% (if you want to take out vitek send back a 3rd, and if you want a 3rd party to retain you pay for said retention out of the assets you’re getting, I imagine Vitek+the retention on Markstrom would cost a 1st+3rd so in that case you get 1st for Markstrom+3rd)
Feb. 10 at 1:21 p.m.
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Dougie might be back for the playoffs. Maybe not round 1 tho.


ok thats all i needed to know.for god sakes go get Marky.he will get you into the playoffs and through the 1st rd,until Dougie is back. the east is wide open,with Marky you can take down the Rangers and Leafs and panthers
Feb. 10 at 1:28 p.m.
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ok thats all i needed to know.for god sakes go get Marky.he will get you into the playoffs and through the 1st rd,until Dougie is back. the east is wide open,with Marky you can take down the Rangers and Leafs and panthers


I would be happy to acquire marky. The big problem is we need retention on marky to make the salary work past this season, and Calgary seems adamantly opposed to retaining on Markstrom.

In all if I was going to go full buy I would want to send out: 1st, 1st, Vitek, Bahl, Toffoli, 5th, 4th, 3rd
And bring in:
Hanifin 75% retained, Tatar, Markstrom 50% retained, Trenin/Evans.

But I also like the possibility of selling Toffoli, dumping vitek, avoiding overages and going into next year with a mid 1st+another 1st and a ****ton of cap space to play with to go grab a goalie at that point.
Feb. 10 at 1:38 p.m.
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I would be happy to acquire marky. The big problem is we need retention on marky to make the salary work past this season, and Calgary seems adamantly opposed to retaining on Markstrom.

In all if I was going to go full buy I would want to send out: 1st, 1st, Vitek, Bahl, Toffoli, 5th, 4th, 3rd
And bring in:
Hanifin 75% retained, Tatar, Markstrom 50% retained, Trenin/Evans.

But I also like the possibility of selling Toffoli, dumping vitek, avoiding overages and going into next year with a mid 1st+another 1st and a ****ton of cap space to play with to go grab a goalie at that point.


your right cgy isnt retaining on Marky,nor should they. why would you want to move Toffoli,you need him. your not getting Hanifin,and they cant retain 75 percent,but would 50 percent. dgibb just focus on Marky and you guys are legit,they can make the money work in the off season,and i promise Marky has two good yrs left.
Feb. 10 at 1:42 p.m.
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your right cgy isnt retaining on Marky,nor should they. why would you want to move Toffoli,you need him. your not getting Hanifin,and they cant retain 75 percent,but would 50 percent. dgibb just focus on Marky and you guys are legit,they can make the money work in the off season,and i promise Marky has two good yrs left.


Toffoli is a touch slow for this core. I’d prefer to sell him to a team that needs him more, move holtz up, and bring in a guy like Tatar again.

Hughes-Holtz-Meier
Nico-Bratt-Palat
Haula-Mercer-Tatar
Trenin-Nosek-Lazar
Hughes-Marino
Hanifin-Nemec
Siegenthaler-Miller
Markstrom
Daws

For example.

Send out Bahl, Toffoli, 2 1sts, Vitek,3rd, 5th
Bring in Markstrom Hanifin Trenin and Tatar
Feb. 10 at 1:44 p.m.
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Toffoli is a touch slow for this core. I’d prefer to sell him to a team that needs him more, move holtz up, and bring in a guy like Tatar again.

Hughes-Holtz-Meier
Nico-Bratt-Palat
Haula-Mercer-Tatar
Trenin-Nosek-Lazar
Hughes-Marino
Hanifin-Nemec
Siegenthaler-Miller
Markstrom
Daws

For example.

Send out Bahl, Toffoli, 2 1sts, Vitek,3rd, 5th
Bring in Markstrom Hanifin Trenin and Tatar


you guys need Marky and Dougie,thats it.but you want to keep Toffoli. Hanifin is a pipe dream.
Feb. 10 at 1:49 p.m.
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you guys need Marky and Dougie,thats it.but you want to keep Toffoli. Hanifin is a pipe dream.


Hanifin or Marcus Pettersson are my 2 biggest targets.

NJD needs another LD who can kill penalties and be an effective puck mover as well as defensively responsible.

Hanifin and Pettersson fit that mold. From there I'd see what the goalie market is like, whether it's a stopgap like Ned or Lyon or Stolarz or Allen, or a legit longer term option like Marky, jarry, Gustafsson, Ullmark, Knight...

Move Toffoli out to preserve some futures and give holtz a bigger opportunity.
Feb. 10 at 1:56 p.m.
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Hanifin or Marcus Pettersson are my 2 biggest targets.

NJD needs another LD who can kill penalties and be an effective puck mover as well as defensively responsible.

Hanifin and Pettersson fit that mold. From there I'd see what the goalie market is like, whether it's a stopgap like Ned or Lyon or Stolarz or Allen, or a legit longer term option like Marky, jarry, Gustafsson, Ullmark, Knight...

Move Toffoli out to preserve some futures and give holtz a bigger opportunity.


then i would focus on pettersson. Hanifin is going to sign for 7.5 times 8 yrs,and your telling me they cant afford Marky? all those stop gap goalies arent getting you out of the east like Marky. Toffoli is good in the playoffs,and like i said your over valueing Holtz, his upside is on the 2nd line wing at best.he will never live up to were he was drafted.
Feb. 10 at 2:01 p.m.
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then i would focus on pettersson. Hanifin is going to sign for 7.5 times 8 yrs,and your telling me they cant afford Marky? all those stop gap goalies arent getting you out of the east like Marky. Toffoli is good in the playoffs,and like i said your over valueing Holtz, his upside is on the 2nd line wing at best.he will never live up to were he was drafted.


The problem with unretained markstrom is he means we eat bonus overages next year. acquiring 2 mill hanifin this year doesn't do that.

Basically for us, Markstrom doesn't cost 6-6-6. He costs 6-8.5-6
Feb. 10 at 2:08 p.m.
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The problem with unretained markstrom is he means we eat bonus overages next year. acquiring 2 mill hanifin this year doesn't do that.

Basically for us, Markstrom doesn't cost 6-6-6. He costs 6-8.5-6


ok you can move money around to make things work.the bottom line is you need a legit top end goalie like Marky or you have no chance.i watched the devils flames the other night.if you guys had marky in net and the flames had vanecek,the score is reversed and the devils win the game. the devils have some real nice pieces on defence,and with dougie back your set.Hanifin is a real stretch and its a 1st and Holtz for him.so were is your other 1st for Marky,the guy you actually need?
 
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