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WPG-LAK-PHI Lots of moving pieces

Created by: CH70
Published: Feb. 19 at 10:47 p.m.
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Season Days: 42/192 (22%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Los Angeles KingsLos Angeles Kings

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Arvidsson, ViktorLos Angeles KingsNHL-$929,688011---3022--
Turcotte, AlexWaivers ExemptLos Angeles KingsNHL-$195,599011---7112--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Los Angeles KingsLAK)---100------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Laczynski, TannerPhiladelphia FlyersNHL-$166,797011---0000--
Marody, CooperPhiladelphia FlyersMinor-$0011---0000--
Iafallo, AlexPhiladelphia FlyersNHL50%$437,500011---5271118--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$1,9412243603411
Change$520,990011-100
Final$522,931 (↑)2244 (↑)61 (↑)2 (↓)4116814

Logo of the Philadelphia FlyersPhiladelphia Flyers

Coincident TransactionInitial StatusNew StatusCap Hit ChangeRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Laczynski, TannerMinorNHL$166,7971-----------
OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Laczynski, TannerPhiladelphia FlyersNHL-$166,797011---0000--
Marody, CooperPhiladelphia FlyersMinor-$0011---0000--
Iafallo, AlexPhiladelphia FlyersNHL50%$437,500011---5271118--
Walker, SeanPhiladelphia FlyersNHL-$579,688011---5651520--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Arvidsson, ViktorLos Angeles KingsNHL-$929,688011---3022--
Iafallo, AlexWinnipeg JetsNHL-$875,000011---5271118--
Turcotte, AlexWaivers ExemptLos Angeles KingsNHL-$195,599011---7112--
Lambert, BradWaivers ExemptWinnipeg JetsMinor-$0011---0000--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Los Angeles KingsLAK)---100------
2024 2nd round pick (Logo of the Montreal CanadiensMTL)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$1,732,6172348684814
Change-$983,099100110
Final$749,518 (↓)24 (↑)48685 (↑)9 (↑)14-4-12-16

Logo of the Winnipeg JetsWinnipeg Jets

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Iafallo, AlexWinnipeg JetsNHL-$875,000011---5271118--
Lambert, BradWaivers ExemptWinnipeg JetsMinor-$0011---0000--
2024 2nd round pick (Logo of the Montreal CanadiensMTL)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Walker, SeanPhiladelphia FlyersNHL-$579,688011---5651520--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$1,278,3302345602611
Change$295,3120-1-10-10
Final$1,573,642 (↑)2344 (↓)59 (↓)25 (↓)11-242
Feb. 19 at 11:22 p.m.
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Lol. You can tell this is a Flyer fan. They give up the least and get the most.
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Feb. 20 at 12:13 a.m.
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Lol. You can tell this is a Flyer fan. They give up the least and get the most.


There is a Bill Nye meme out there with an incredulous face, and the caption "That makes no *bleeping* sense". Bill Nye the Deadline Guy.
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Feb. 20 at 12:38 a.m.
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Kings GM loses all of their phones and needs a police escort out of the city.
Feb. 20 at 6:21 a.m.
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Lol. You can tell this is a Flyer fan. They give up the least and get the most.


I don’t know that I would say the Flyers give up the least. The original thought was Walker to the Jets for Lambert and Montreal’s 2nd this year, which I thought was reasonable. Winnipeg has 23/23 roster slots taken up and would need to move someone off the roster to make any deal work.

The Kings are looking for depth upgrades and Arvidsson is a UFA at the season’s and coming off of back surgery that he only just had 3-4 months ago. Yes, definitely is a productive player, but, IMO, is a HUGE question mark the rest of the way.

The Jets, in theory, could move Iafallo and not be losing much in terms of offense, as he is mainly relegated to 3rd/4th line usage. The Kings don’t exactly have much in terms of cap space either.

The Flyers then facilitate moving Iafallo back to the Kings by retaining 50% of his contract, and giving up a VERY valuable retention slot (2nd of 3) and taking back the the Arvidsson contract, that expires at the end of the year. The Flyers weaponizing their cap space (they could still put Ryan Ellis on LTIR to clear more if needed) and the use of a retention slot, would be ultimately be receiving Turcotte, a player that needs a change of scenery to have a better chance, and a 1st round pick.

Is the 1st being a smidge too greedy? That’s debatable. It is justifiable. Would I be willing to take a 2nd back instead? Sure, but the Kings don’t have a 2nd until next year. I would then want the 2nd to have a condition of moving to a lottery protected 1st in 2025 based on Kings success (making it to WCF or SCF).
Feb. 20 at 1:06 p.m.
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I don’t know that I would say the Flyers give up the least. The original thought was Walker to the Jets for Lambert and Montreal’s 2nd this year, which I thought was reasonable. Winnipeg has 23/23 roster slots taken up and would need to move someone off the roster to make any deal work.

The Kings are looking for depth upgrades and Arvidsson is a UFA at the season’s and coming off of back surgery that he only just had 3-4 months ago. Yes, definitely is a productive player, but, IMO, is a HUGE question mark the rest of the way.

The Jets, in theory, could move Iafallo and not be losing much in terms of offense, as he is mainly relegated to 3rd/4th line usage. The Kings don’t exactly have much in terms of cap space either.

The Flyers then facilitate moving Iafallo back to the Kings by retaining 50% of his contract, and giving up a VERY valuable retention slot (2nd of 3) and taking back the the Arvidsson contract, that expires at the end of the year. The Flyers weaponizing their cap space (they could still put Ryan Ellis on LTIR to clear more if needed) and the use of a retention slot, would be ultimately be receiving Turcotte, a player that needs a change of scenery to have a better chance, and a 1st round pick.

Is the 1st being a smidge too greedy? That’s debatable. It is justifiable. Would I be willing to take a 2nd back instead? Sure, but the Kings don’t have a 2nd until next year. I would then want the 2nd to have a condition of moving to a lottery protected 1st in 2025 based on Kings success (making it to WCF or SCF).


This trade only makes sense for the Flyers. It's an easy no from the Jets and Kings. Jets wouldn't even give up this much for Chris Tanev out of Calgary.
Feb. 20 at 1:45 p.m.
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This trade only makes sense for the Flyers. It's an easy no from the Jets and Kings. Jets wouldn't even give up this much for Chris Tanev out of Calgary.


Honestly, I think Tanev gets a better return. We’ll see. Maybe nothing happens. Just spitballing.
Feb. 21 at 1:03 a.m.
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Honestly, I think Tanev gets a better return. We’ll see. Maybe nothing happens. Just spitballing.


The issue is that Iafallo is a perfectly good player for the Jets, who can either play on the fourth line if needed, or on the first line if needed. Very versatile, and can put up some points when asked to (i.e. stints on the first line). They also value Lambert very highly. Tanev COULD draw a very, very solid return if there are a lot of different interested buyers, but cap space still dominates. Teams can only offer what they can offer with their cap space, and that's always a problem for contending teams. The young players the seller of the veteran want don't equal out the cap space a lot of the time.

A 2nd round pick and a prospect for Tanev could be expected, but the quality of the prospect is open to debate. It won't be anything like Logan Stankoven or Calum Ritchie or Brad Lambert. Retaining even 50% won't cost a fortune as it is only for the rest of this season, and pro-rated, won't be much.
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Feb. 21 at 7:18 a.m.
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The issue is that Iafallo is a perfectly good player for the Jets, who can either play on the fourth line if needed, or on the first line if needed. Very versatile, and can put up some points when asked to (i.e. stints on the first line). They also value Lambert very highly. Tanev COULD draw a very, very solid return if there are a lot of different interested buyers, but cap space still dominates. Teams can only offer what they can offer with their cap space, and that's always a problem for contending teams. The young players the seller of the veteran want don't equal out the cap space a lot of the time.

A 2nd round pick and a prospect for Tanev could be expected, but the quality of the prospect is open to debate. It won't be anything like Logan Stankoven or Calum Ritchie or Brad Lambert. Retaining even 50% won't cost a fortune as it is only for the rest of this season, and pro-rated, won't be much.


Very reasonable argument. One of the hurdles with the original proposal (without the Kings) was that the Jets would have to make room on the roster in order to bring Walker on. Would you think the second and a guy like Rashevsky makes better sense? Is sending loaning Stanley to your AHL affiliate an option?

WPG: Walker
Coincident Transaction: Stanley to Minors
PHI: Rashevsky and ‘24 2nd (MTL)
Feb. 23 at 6:44 p.m.
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Very reasonable argument. One of the hurdles with the original proposal (without the Kings) was that the Jets would have to make room on the roster in order to bring Walker on. Would you think the second and a guy like Rashevsky makes better sense? Is sending loaning Stanley to your AHL affiliate an option?

WPG: Walker
Coincident Transaction: Stanley to Minors
PHI: Rashevsky and ‘24 2nd (MTL)


Possibly? I don't know a thing about that prospect to be honest!
 
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