Easy decline for the rangers. And Kakko is a RW not left

The Leafs are 12-4-0 in their last 16 and we are still trying to sell?

Can players, especially ones who have struggled not be tried at different positions on different teams? When you played hockey (assuming you played or are still playing) did your coach never move you to different positionsand when moved have you never found your game might be better suited in that new position, it's not that crazy for players to move.

Also is it the value you have for Kakko that makes you say no, you don't like Bertuzzi, you just don't want to give Toronto the chance at developping a prospect that is looking like a bust, something else, all of the above?

It's in the title

Leafs might have been sellers....not extending Nylander would have brought a nice haul.
Hate the Larsson trade. One year of Larsson isn't worth that, even if the Leafs were buyers.

Coaches at the NHL level rarely change a players position that he grew up playing his whole career. You experiment when you’re younger to see what side or position you’re best at (Kandre Miller switching from forward to defense)

I’ve never been a fan of Bertuzzi and the rangers need more right wingers, not to swap. If they want Bertuzzi, it’ll be for picks and low end prospects

Avs pass.

I respect the hate for the Larsson trade but, Vince Dunn had a crazy year last year and a more lowkey but still a strong year offensively being paired with Larsson. I think Reilly can shine more offensively when paired with a partner that allows him to use more creativity and jump into plays because he knows Larsson covers him.

You also get a year and 20ish games to convince him to stay after his contract is up

Kakko would never be traded for a rental. And just so we're clear i wouldn't trade you Kakko for Knies one for one, You'd have to add.

I know... It's just needed saying IMO

I mean Max Domi has moved back and forth from wing to center, Sam Reinhart made it to the NHL as a center and is now killing it at wing, Brent Burns has played forward and D in the NHL, Ovechkin won best LW and RW in the same season if I remember correctly, Giroux is now a winger for Ottawa, Schenn for STL has played both Wing and Center, those are off the top of my head

I can respect not liking the player, that's fine. By need more RW you mean keeping Kakko and adding guys? How is NYR going to do that without losing guys through waivers?

That is a super hot take, not a leafs fan so I won't debate it

The rangers currently have Edstrom, Rempe and Belzile who can be sent down without waivers

Kakko has been good as RW3 since coming back from his brutal injury, so the rangers should be using their 1st to get playdriving RW for Mika & Kreider

That's fair, not like it's life changing stuff, Avs just seem like the type of team looking for cheap depth

A lot of people don't understand the way Kakko been treated in the org. We gave him zero opportunity to show himself because it's a business, and we already had players under big contract. Rangers org purposely did this to keep his contract down low. Its risky because you can always ruin a rookie doing this, but Laf and Kakko have shown they can play. Just need that opportunity. Last year on the 3rd line Kakko got 40 points. This year don't count cause his line mates were brutal to start the season, and then he got hurt. On the 3rd line again these last 8 games he has 6 Points playing with a rookie and a AHLer. Knies is playing with the NHL best goalscorer and one of the best playmakers in the NHL, his stats are padded.

I can't think of that type of winger that is available and most wingers that are affordable and available (assuming Kane isn't available) aren't better than Bertuzzi IMO, Duclair can play but, he doesn't drive plays he's complimentary. Henrique same thing, if the Kings fallout of the playoffs and Arvidsson becomes available maybe, Eberle is good but again not a play driver, yeah I can't think of the guy you're looking for

I mean you have to play with the cards your dealt, Knies has done well and will be close to Kakko's 40point season in his first season and is younger.

Kakko has had it rough but, he's also had chances to play with Panarin, Zibanejad and Kreider but hasn't had the production desired. You might be right about your theory but, a team purposefully killing 1st and 2nd overall picks development to save money is another hot take

Doesn’t have to be a play driver, but someone who is good at 5v5 and doesn’t need the powerplay to be good. It just makes sense for it to be a play driver because Mika is a shooter and Kreider is net front

But then again, beggars can’t be choosers, so if Bertuzzi is the only one they can get for picks, then I won’t complain

Kakko has barely played with Panarin because of the rumor “Panarin doesn’t want him on his line” and you can’t compare matthews/marner with Kreider/Mika. Knies easily has the better linemates especially at 5v5

I mean, if my star player hates playing with someone that's kind of a bad sign, isn't it?
For sure Knies has better linemates but, as an older and in theory a more developped and mature player shouldn't Kakko make up for the difference in linemates skill with his own?

I mean Knies is gonna rack up more points if his linemate is scoring at a 70+ goal pace. Knies this year is pretty much the same as Kakko’s strong season last year

Kakko for sure needs to start driving to the net and creating his own offense, but this year when he started out on the top line, the whole line was shooting at like 4% on top of the fact that Kreider and mika get most of their points on the powerplay

No doubt Knies is getting carried for the most part but, and this might sound crazy, there is something to be said about a player that can just hang with the top guys, being liked by top players is a talent all in it's own, one that Kakko might not have unfortunately

I saw Kakko vs the Habs last week, he looked good with the puck

Kakko’s biggest strengths are puck possession/protection, wall play and staying down low around the goal line. Just need his linemates to put the puck in the net. He’s riding a 4 game point streak and 6 points in his last 8 on the 3rd line

Easy no thanks from the Rangers.

I don't think Martin Jones has that much trade value any more, Gregor I DO like as I think he'd be a great fit for the Avs. Giordano at this point probably isn't that much of a step up from Jones other than veteran savvy and not sure if he'd keep up with the Avs (I'll be fair and say I simply don't know). Just seems a lot to shell out for depth pieces for a team that's already very light on picks and really needs to use them more wisely if not re-stocking the farm. Then there's also contract numbers.