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Created by: jakdonaghy

Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 22, 2024

Published: Feb. 22, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Accurate/Prorated

LTIR Enabled: Yes

Season Days: 192

Days Remaining: 56

Season Remaining: 29%

Projected Cap Hit Prior To Days Remaining

: $97,734,141

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Too much or too little?

Initial feeling is that San Jose may need to send a 3rd or 4th to Toronto as well? What is Niemela's value?

Trades

TOR

Ferraro, Mario
Kunin, Luke ($1,375,000 retained)

SJS

Niemelä, Topi
2024 1st round pick (TOR)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$82,864,783	$0	$0	$635,217

Prorated Cap Hit

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Knies, Matthew $925,000$269,792 LW, RW RFA - 2	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$3,395,073 C NMC UFA - 1	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$3,180,042 RW NMC UFA - 2
Bertuzzi, Tyler $5,500,000$1,604,167 LW, RW NMC UFA - 1	Domi, Max $3,000,000$875,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Nylander, William $6,962,366$2,030,690 RW NMC UFA - 1
Robertson, Nicholas $796,667$232,361 LW, RW RFA - 1	Tavares, John $11,000,000$3,208,333 C, LW NMC UFA - 2	McMann, Bobby $762,500$222,396 RW, LW UFA - 1
Gregor, Noah $775,000$226,042 LW, RW RFA - 1	Kämpf, David $2,400,000$700,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4	Kunin, Luke $1,375,000$401,042 RW, C RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$2,187,500 LD NMC UFA - 7	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$1,458,333 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Samsonov, Ilya $3,550,000$1,035,417 G UFA - 1
Ferraro, Mario $3,250,000$947,917 LD UFA - 3	Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000$408,333 RD RFA - 1	Jones, Martin $875,000$255,208 G UFA - 1
McCabe, Jake $2,000,000$583,333 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Timmins, Conor $1,100,000$320,833 RD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Giordano, Mark $800,000$233,333 LD UFA - 1		Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$1,640,625 LD M-NTC UFA - 1
Reaves, Ryan $1,350,000$393,750 RW UFA - 3		Murray, Matt $4,687,500$1,367,188 G M-NTC UFA - 1
		Klingberg, John $4,150,000$1,210,417 RD M-NTC UFA - 1
		Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$612,500 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
		Woll, Joseph $766,667$223,611 G RFA - 2

Feb. 22 at 5:27 p.m.

Carleton

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Still no. Ferraro isn’t good.

Feb. 22 at 5:29 p.m.

NoImRight

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Leafs really don't need a 5'11 LHD

Feb. 22 at 5:30 p.m.

jakdonaghy

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Quoting: Carleton

Still no. Ferraro isn’t good.

I would argue that the Leafs have been needing a guy like Ferraro. Skill set is not elite but effort is 110% every night. Tons of energy and passion. To top it off, he has a decent AAV

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Feb. 22 at 5:31 p.m.

jakdonaghy

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Quoting: NoImRight

Leafs really don't need a 5'11 LHD

As a Sharks fan, I hope he stays. As a hockey fan I hope this trade happens because I think he would make a difference in a playoff series

Feb. 22 at 5:31 p.m.

Carleton

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Quoting: jakdonaghy

I would argue that the Leafs have been needing a guy like Ferraro. Skill set is not elite but effort is 110% every night. Tons of energy and passion. To top it off, he has a decent AAV

He’s just a poor man’s McCabe. We’d be paying a 1st and Niemela for Ferraro to play on the third pairing and not contribute much. If we’re gonna keep spending our firsts, they need to be for game changers. Players that will actually get us into the finals.

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Feb. 22 at 5:35 p.m.

AStovetop

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Quoting: jakdonaghy

I would argue that the Leafs have been needing a guy like Ferraro. Skill set is not elite but effort is 110% every night. Tons of energy and passion. To top it off, he has a decent AAV

This guy has been spending his whole day trying to make Ferraro sound like the worst player in the league lol

Feb. 22 at 5:36 p.m.

palhal

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Leafs (and most teams) have plenty of LHD in their organization Ferraro certainly doesn't move the needle to waste two young assets (of few the Leafs have)

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Feb. 22 at 5:36 p.m.

Carleton

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Quoting: AStovetop

Lol get a life. Are you going to spam this in every ACGM that has Ferraro?

Quoting: AStovetop

This guy has been spending his whole day trying to make Ferraro sound like the worst player in the league lol

As long as there are Sharks fans making ACGM’s pricing him at a first I will be here saying he’s not worth that.

Block me or move on.

Feb. 22 at 5:45 p.m.

AStovetop

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Quoting: Carleton

As long as there are Sharks fans making ACGM’s pricing him at a first I will be here saying he’s not worth that.

Block me or move on.

Imagine admitting that you're committing all you're time spamming the same BS on every Ferraro trade and then saying "move on" in the next sentence.

Feb. 22 at 5:47 p.m.

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Carleton

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Quoting: AStovetop

Imagine admitting that you're committing all you're time spamming the same BS on every Ferraro trade and then saying "move on" in the next sentence.

Hey buddy, I know you’ve taken my comments to heart, but the trade involves my team. If you don’t like it, then block me.

You’re the one that keeps replying to me. Clearly I live rent free in your head or something.

Feb. 22 at 5:47 p.m.

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fangm

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Leafs decline

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Feb. 22 at 5:53 p.m.

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jakdonaghy

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Quoting: Carleton

The scouting section of this very website rates Ferraro much higher than McCabe but I’m certain you know better.

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Feb. 22 at 5:55 p.m.

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Carleton

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Quoting: jakdonaghy

The scouting section of this very website rates Ferraro much higher than McCabe but I’m certain you know better.

That’s your first problem, using the capfriendly scouting page

Feb. 22 at 6:42 p.m.

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jakdonaghy

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Quoting: Carleton

That’s your first problem, using the capfriendly scouting page

Good point please send me a link to your scouting reports. Would love to glean from your wisdom

Feb. 22 at 6:49 p.m.

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sharksdoee

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Quoting: Carleton

As long as there are Sharks fans making ACGM’s pricing him at a first I will be here saying he’s not worth that.

Block me or move on.

For every Sharks fan ACGM having him for a first (which is what Grier implied minimum would need to move him not his actual value), I see 10 Toronto/other teams fan ACGMs pricing him at a first +. So pretty irrelevant statement.

Feb. 22 at 6:50 p.m.

#16

Carleton

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Quoting: sharksdoee

Yes right, fans on capfriendly making mock trades must make it true!

Grier said that’s his price and I wonder why nobody is paying it. Shocker.

Feb. 22 at 6:56 p.m.

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sharksdoee

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Quoting: Carleton

Yes right, fans on capfriendly making mock trades must make it true!

Grier said that’s his price and I wonder why nobody is paying it. Shocker.

Not saying it's true, but i'll edit your statement by saying as long as there's ACGMs that value him at a 6th rounder I will be here saying he's worth more than that. Better?

You could say that for the other 50 trade candidates in the league that haven't been moved yet

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