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we need BUCH

Created by: Totorou555
Team: 2023-24 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 23, 2024
Published: Feb. 23, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel ($2,900,000 retained)
  2. 2025 6th round pick (STL)
STL
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Ceci, Cody
  3. Niemeläinen, Markus
  4. 2024 1st round pick (EDM)
  5. 2025 4th round pick (EDM)
  6. 2026 2nd round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
some source have tell that it will likely be like a ekholm trade
1st(1st), ceci(barrie), bourgault(schaeffer), 4th(4th) second+niemelainen for rentention
2.
EDM
  1. Carrier, Alexandre ($1,250,000 retained)
  2. Novak, Thomas
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (DAL)
NSH
  1. Münzenberger, Luca [Reserve List]
  2. Savoie, Carter
  3. Tullio, Tyler
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
  5. 2026 3rd round pick (EDM)
3.
EDM
  1. Nedeljkovic, Alex ($750,000 retained)
PIT
  1. 2025 5th round pick (EDM)
  2. 2026 7th round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$83,554,167$850,000$4,200,000-$54,167
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 6
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McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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Hyman, Zach
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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Buchnevich, Pavel
$2,900,000$2,900,000
LW, RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Draisaitl, Leon
$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
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Kane, Evander
$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
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Foegele, Warren
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Novak, Thomas
$800,000$800,000
C
UFA - 1
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McLeod, Ryan
$2,100,000$2,100,000
C
RFA - 2
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Waivers ExemptHolloway, Dylan
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
LW, C
RFA - 1
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Ryan, Derek
$900,000$900,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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Perry, Corey
$775,000$775,000 (Performance Bonus$325,000$325K)
RW
UFA - 1
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Janmark, Mattias
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Brown, Connor
$775,000$775,000 (Performance Bonus$3,225,000$3M)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Ekholm, Mattias
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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Bouchard, Evan
$3,900,000$3,900,000
RD
RFA - 2
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Skinner, Stuart
$2,600,000$2,600,000
G
UFA - 3
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Nurse, Darnell
$9,250,000$9,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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Carrier, Alexandre
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Nedeljkovic, Alex
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
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Kulak, Brett
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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Desharnais, Vincent
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1

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Feb. 23 at 3:57 p.m.
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LOL you're not getting Ned for that. He'll get a 2nd. He's top 10 in SV% and has the best stats of any available back-ups.
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Feb. 23 at 3:58 p.m.
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"Some source" = Jiminy Cricket?
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Feb. 23 at 4:00 p.m.
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I wouldn't do this as Blues.


If were retaining on Buch I would start thinking in the ballpark of

Bourgault
Broberg
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2025 1st
Feb. 23 at 4:00 p.m.
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Ugly proposal for Buch.
Feb. 23 at 4:09 p.m.
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Quoting: BDHockey
I wouldn't do this as Blues.


If were retaining on Buch I would start thinking in the ballpark of

Bourgault
Broberg
2024 1st
2025 1st


I'd say the either of the Toffoli trades would be good comparables. The one that sent him to CGY was a futures trade and the one to NJ was more of a hockey trade.
Feb. 23 at 4:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
LOL you're not getting Ned for that. He'll get a 2nd. He's top 10 in SV% and has the best stats of any available back-ups.


No one in the league is paying a 2nd for a backup goalie. His value is probably a 5th, you might get a 4th if a few teams are interested.
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Feb. 23 at 4:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
I'd say the either of the Toffoli trades would be good comparables. The one that sent him to CGY was a futures trade and the one to NJ was more of a hockey trade.


Buch >> Toffoli

Plus there is no reason for us to sell Buch. I'm fine resigning him and Armstrong most likely is to. It's going to take a haul if somebody wants to swipe very strong defensive winger, who also happens to be a ppg player over the past three years.
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Feb. 23 at 4:17 p.m.
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Quoting: Aasen6
No one in the league is paying a 2nd for a backup goalie. His value is probably a 5th, you might get a 4th if a few teams are interested.


LOL You're absurdly wrong. Your'e clearly new to hockey.
Feb. 23 at 4:19 p.m.
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Quoting: BDHockey
Buch >> Toffoli

Plus there is no reason for us to sell Buch. I'm fine resigning him and Armstrong most likely is to. It's going to take a haul if somebody wants to swipe very strong defensive winger, who also happens to be a ppg player over the past three years.


As far as if or why STL should or shouldn't move him is not something I know about or commenting on, but Buch is NOT >> Toffoli. They're really on the same level.
Feb. 23 at 4:19 p.m.
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LOL You're absurdly wrong. Your'e clearly new to hockey.


Can you tell me the last time a backup goalie got traded for a 2nd round pick around the deadline…? I’ll wait
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Feb. 23 at 4:20 p.m.
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Well if you need Buch your gonna have to make an actual offer for him
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Feb. 23 at 4:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
As far as if or why STL should or shouldn't move him is not something I know about or commenting on, but Buch is NOT >> Toffoli. They're really on the same level.


Toffoli's two way game is not as strong as Buch and Toffoli has never been a ppg player over any stretch of his career.

Buch has better defense and offense, so I can pretty confidently say one is better than the other.
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Feb. 23 at 4:23 p.m.
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Quoting: Aasen6
Can you tell me the last time a backup goalie got traded for a 2nd round pick around the deadline…? I’ll wait


Robin Lehner when he shipped to Vegas to backup Fleury. Was that fast enough for you?
Feb. 23 at 4:23 p.m.
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Quoting: BDHockey
Toffoli's two way game is not as strong as Buch and Toffoli has never been a ppg player over any stretch of his career.

Buch has better defense and offense, so I can pretty confidently say one is better than the other.


Nope, they're pretty much on the same level. Toffoli is definitely a better finisher and Buch has a little better two-way game, so it balances.
Feb. 23 at 4:26 p.m.
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A massive difference between this trade and the Ekholm trade is the mulit-year retention you are expecting STL to take on. They're also completely different players at different positions with very different values. But, at a base, with the multi-year retention this is not gonna do it. 0 relevant future players... c'mon man
Feb. 23 at 4:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Robin Lehner when he shipped to Vegas to backup Fleury. Was that fast enough for you?


Robin Lehner was not a backup when he got traded, yes he became the back up when he got to Vegas but he went on to take Fleurys job. Nedeljkovic has always been a backup and will always be a backup… let’s look at recent actual back up goalies traded, Scott Wedgewood for a 4th, Quick for Hutchinson and a 7th.
Feb. 23 at 5:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
Nope, they're pretty much on the same level. Toffoli is definitely a better finisher and Buch has a little better two-way game, so it balances.


I don't even know if he is better finisher than Buch. Their goal totals are basically the per game.
Feb. 23 at 5:34 p.m.
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Blues want nothing to do with Ceci
Feb. 23 at 5:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
As far as if or why STL should or shouldn't move him is not something I know about or commenting on, but Buch is NOT >> Toffoli. They're really on the same level.


You're not really good at judging hockey players...
 
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