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Why Stamkos is a realistic option for the free agency

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Initial Creation Date: Feb. 24, 2024
Published: Feb. 25, 2024
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Seems like the rumour is that Stamkos have a lot of chances to leave the Lightning. I know somes analyst said that Stamkos can be sign with the Bruins or the Rangers, but nobody talked about Montreal, who is in my opinion, one of the most likely place that he will gonna land.

1st reason : Montreal will gonna have more than 17M minimally in their cap space next season (with Carey Price on LTIR), and that's from the cap space right now. They will likely gonna get rid of somes contracts like Armia, Dvorack or Allen (with or without retention, who can open the cap to reach the 23M-24M), and their only RFA players that need to resign are Barron, Ylonen and Xhekaj who will not gonna sign contract extension more than 1M each (even that Ylonen can be gone and hit the free agency). So, they will gonna have a lot of space to sign somes good leadership for their top 6.

2nd reason : Montreal have a talended young core right now. They already have Suzuki, Caufield, Slaf, Dach and Newhook who are established NHL players, and they also haves somes prospects like Roy, Beck and Mesar who can be NHL'ers (more chances for Roy, who is likely gonna start the next season with Montreal). In defense, they have Guhle, but they have also somes high prospects with Hutson, Reinbacher and Mailloux (who is in the same level as somes players like Zellweger in the AHL) who can make the jump in the NHL in 24-25. So, that's means the team isn't going backward (like the Lightning), they're going foward.

3rd reason : He already have a good connection with somes good old teamates who are with the Habs. I know who i'm talking about...... What about a reunion of Marty and Steven, and we should not forget Vinny, who is now a member of the Habs organisation.......

4th reason and the most important one : old friend can easily influence someone decision. Let me explain. When Suter and Parise sign together with Minnesota in 2012, they arranged to sign together with their hometown team because they were childhoods friends. And who is right now one of his best and childhood friend of Stamkos ?? He is not working right now with the Habs, but he is likely the person who knows the most the Montreal hockey market, and that's not Carey Price.....

His name : PK Subban.

If someone than can easily sold positively the market way more than Marty or Vinny, it's this guy, because he played the game here and PK isn't what he is right now witout the Montreal Canadiens. Also, his influence on the Montreal hockey market right now is still very present, more than somes actual Habs players....




To finish my quote, I belive the likely contract can be a 3-4 seasons deal with a certain amount of money (means more than 7M per season).
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Feb. 25 at 10:42 a.m.
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Caufield Slafkovky
Newhook Dach
Roy Anderson
RHP Gallagher
Pezzetta Armia

On a seulement Suzuki Evans comme centre l'an prochain surtout qu'il faut racheter Dvorak pour signer un UFA. Signer Lindholm vs Stamkos est tellement plus à même d'aider notre équipe surtout si on repêche soit Celebrini soit Lindstrom.
Feb. 25 at 10:52 a.m.
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Quoting: habitantlecolon
Caufield Slafkovky
Newhook Dach
Roy Anderson
RHP Gallagher
Pezzetta Armia

On a seulement Suzuki Evans comme centre l'an prochain surtout qu'il faut racheter Dvorak pour signer un UFA. Signer Lindholm vs Stamkos est tellement plus à même d'aider notre équipe surtout si on repêche soit Celebrini soit Lindstrom.


Suzuki : 1C
Dach. Si on a Celebrini, ils peuvent alterner ensemble : 2C
Je prédit un retour de Monahan ou Kent Hughes va s'arranger pour un trade. Lindholm ne viendras pas à MTL : 3C

Pour le 4C : j'ai 3 scénarios.

1er scénario : On garde Evans

2e scénario : On échange Evans, mais lorsqu'on va échanger Allen, on va chercher un contract en retour (Johansen avec Colorado ou Faksa avec Dallas)

3e scénario : Si Beck impressionne tout le monde, il prend la place à Evans.

Dvorack va fortement se faire racheter, mais il peut se faire échanger en retenant son salaire. Même chose pour Armia. Mon attaque avec Celebrini et Stamkos peut ressembler à ça :

Stamkos - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
Caufield - Celebrini - Dach
Newhook - Monahan - Roy
RHP/Gallagher - 4C - Anderson
Feb. 25 at 11:12 a.m.
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But you don't have a good young core of forwards and you don't have very many forward prospects.

You have some decent middle 6 players, some of whom you've paid like 1st liners

Stamkos would have no interest in montreal
Feb. 25 at 11:18 a.m.
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I would love to sign stamkos to that type of deal. Not sure if it’ll happen but I’d love for our young core to be around stammer!

Would have no problem even giving him 8.5 for 3-4 years

Without including our 2024 draft pick that will likely be a forward, I’d roll with this next year .

Slafkovsky - Suzuki - Caufield
Stamkos - Dach - Roy
Newhook - Beck - Anderson

Will be great when Armia, Dvorak, Pearson are no longer on the team. Just spare parts at this point for us and they take up roster spots
Feb. 25 at 11:28 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
But you don't have a good young core of forwards and you don't have very many forward prospects.

You have some decent middle 6 players, some of whom you've paid like 1st liners

Stamkos would have no interest in montreal


Since they've been put on a line together Dec. 7:
- Slafkovsky (Age 19): 23 pts in 32GP (59 pts pace)
- Caufield (Age 22): 26 pts in 32GP (67 pts pace)
- Suzuki (Age 24): 34 pts in 32 GP (87 pts pace)

Slafkovsky is following a similar trajectory as Rantanen who put up 80 pts at age 20.

Add in Kirby Dach who looked primed for a breakout at age 22 after scoring at a pace of 54 pts at age 21.

Add in a top 5 pick from this draft.

I dont think Stamkos would sign with MTL, taxes and media are a lot different than what he's used to in TB. But if you add one big forward to this group through trade or free agency it's solid.

Unless you think 19 and 22 year olds have peaked...
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Feb. 25 at 11:32 a.m.
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Since they've been put on a line together Dec. 7:
- Slafkovsky (Age 19): 23 pts in 32GP (59 pts pace)
- Caufield (Age 22): 26 pts in 32GP (67 pts pace)
- Suzuki (Age 24): 34 pts in 32 GP (87 pts pace)

Slafkovsky is following a similar trajectory as Rantanen who put up 80 pts at age 20.

Add in Kirby Dach who looked primed for a breakout at age 22 after scoring at a pace of 54 pts at age 21.

Add in a top 5 pick from this draft.

I dont think Stamkos would sign with MTL, taxes and media are a lot different than what he's used to in TB. But if you add one big forward to this group through trade or free agency it's solid.

Unless you think 19 and 22 year olds have peaked...


Alot of ifs and small sample sizes.

Yes, most skill players peak in their rfa years.

The rest including rantanen comp.... ho boy
Feb. 25 at 11:39 a.m.
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Alot of ifs and small sample sizes.

Yes, most skill players peak in their rfa years.

The rest including rantanen comp.... ho boy


This reeks of preconceptions. Rantanen had 38 pts in 75 games as a 19 year old in the NHL. Slafkovsky currently has 30 pts in 58 games, a pace of 39 pts in 75 games. I know, suggesting Rantanen would be a star player at that age was probably hard to believe too, but he did it the very next season.

In 2022 Peter Forsberg compared Slafkovsky to Rantanen and aspects of his game have also been compared to Jagr. But hey, what does hall of famer Peter Forsberg know I guess.
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Feb. 25 at 11:45 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
But you don't have a good young core of forwards and you don't have very many forward prospects.

You have some decent middle 6 players, some of whom you've paid like 1st liners

Stamkos would have no interest in montreal


If a team have a overrated prospect pool, it's the Buffalo Sabres......

You will likely gonna said that Kulich is better than Slafkovsky or something else.....
Feb. 25 at 11:52 a.m.
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If a team have a overrated prospect pool, it's the Buffalo Sabres......

You will likely gonna said that Kulich is better than Slafkovsky or something else.....


Not really honestly.

Ostlund Savoie Kulich Peterka Quinn Rosen Levi Strbak Etc. Add that to the young solid core players they already have : Thompson Dahlin Cozens Power Mittelstadt
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Feb. 25 at 1:04 p.m.
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Suzuki : 1C
Dach. Si on a Celebrini, ils peuvent alterner ensemble : 2C
Je prédit un retour de Monahan ou Kent Hughes va s'arranger pour un trade. Lindholm ne viendras pas à MTL : 3C

Pour le 4C : j'ai 3 scénarios.

1er scénario : On garde Evans

2e scénario : On échange Evans, mais lorsqu'on va échanger Allen, on va chercher un contract en retour (Johansen avec Colorado ou Faksa avec Dallas)

3e scénario : Si Beck impressionne tout le monde, il prend la place à Evans.

Dvorack va fortement se faire racheter, mais il peut se faire échanger en retenant son salaire. Même chose pour Armia. Mon attaque avec Celebrini et Stamkos peut ressembler à ça :

Stamkos - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
Caufield - Celebrini - Dach
Newhook - Monahan - Roy
RHP/Gallagher - 4C - Anderson


Si on repêche Celebrini est-ce qu'on amène Hutson avec le CH l'an prochain?
Feb. 25 at 1:48 p.m.
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Si on repêche Celebrini est-ce qu'on amène Hutson avec le CH l'an prochain?


Hutson risque déjà prendre la place à des Harris, Struble, Barron, Kovacevic ou Xhekaj. Faque selon moi oui.
Feb. 25 at 2:12 p.m.
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Hutson risque déjà prendre la place à des Harris, Struble, Barron, Kovacevic ou Xhekaj. Faque selon moi oui.


Donc l'an prochain :

Matheson ????
Ghule ???
Hutson ???
Xhekaj/Struble ???

Que fait-on pour Harris, Barron, Kovacevic et Savard ?? Moi j'aimerais bien que le ch puisse acquérir Rasmus Andesson.

Matheson Reinbacher
Hutson Andersson
Ghule Barron
Struble Xhekaj

Ça nous laisse Kovacevic, Harris, Savard à transiger.

Tant qu'à avoir Andersson autant bien signer Lindholm et resigner Monahan pour fusionner le meilleur de CGY avec notre équipe. Andersson Lindholm Monahan c'était le big 3 du core des Flames.

Celebrini Lindholm Dach
Caufield Suzuki Slafkovsky
Roy Newhook Monahan
RHP Evans Anderson
Gallagher

Ce qui nous laisse à sortir Dvorak, Pezzetta, Armia. Si on réussi ça on a finit la reconstruction :

Celebrini Lindholm Dach
Caufield Suzuki Slafkovsky
Roy Newhook Monahan
RHP Evans Anderson
Gallagher

Matheson Reinbacher
Hutson Andersson
Ghule Barron
Struble Xhekaj

Montembeault
Primeau

si c'est ça la formation 24-25, AYOYE. C'est pour ça que je pense que Stamkos est pas mal moins utile.
Feb. 26 at 11:00 a.m.
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Donc l'an prochain :

Matheson ????
Ghule ???
Hutson ???
Xhekaj/Struble ???

Que fait-on pour Harris, Barron, Kovacevic et Savard ?? Moi j'aimerais bien que le ch puisse acquérir Rasmus Andesson.

Matheson Reinbacher
Hutson Andersson
Ghule Barron
Struble Xhekaj

Ça nous laisse Kovacevic, Harris, Savard à transiger.

Tant qu'à avoir Andersson autant bien signer Lindholm et resigner Monahan pour fusionner le meilleur de CGY avec notre équipe. Andersson Lindholm Monahan c'était le big 3 du core des Flames.

Celebrini Lindholm Dach
Caufield Suzuki Slafkovsky
Roy Newhook Monahan
RHP Evans Anderson
Gallagher

Ce qui nous laisse à sortir Dvorak, Pezzetta, Armia. Si on réussi ça on a finit la reconstruction :

Celebrini Lindholm Dach
Caufield Suzuki Slafkovsky
Roy Newhook Monahan
RHP Evans Anderson
Gallagher

Matheson Reinbacher
Hutson Andersson
Ghule Barron
Struble Xhekaj

Montembeault
Primeau

si c'est ça la formation 24-25, AYOYE. C'est pour ça que je pense que Stamkos est pas mal moins utile.


J'aime absolument ton point de vue. Peut-être juste un swtch pour la 3e ligne, Monahan au centre, Newhook LW et Roy RW (qui a joué à cette position là avec Sherbrooke).

Mais aussi, personnellement, un joueur comme Stamkos peut absolument nous apporter de l'expérience et du leadership à cette équipe, il connait déjà TRÈS bien le coaching staff et des membres de l'équipe, ce qui est un très fort avantage. Mais même si Lindholm est un très bon joueur, je le vois essayer de maximiser son contrat sur le long-terme (genre à 8,5M par saison), tandis que Stamkos risque de signer pour moins cher puisqu'il a déjà signer son gros contrat de carrière. Et pour moi, je considère ça comme une forme de Red Flag, et c'est exactement pour cette raison qu'à mes yeux, Stamkos est une meilleure option pour le CH que Lindholm, et je ne t'ai même pas parler du fait que Suzuki jouent comme un vrai centre défensif et qui gagne aussi beaucoup plus souvent ces faceoffs.

Pour ce qui est de la défense, je pense qu'il va y avoir de gros changements mais tout dépendra du TDL. Je paris que Harris va partir, et un GROS peut-être pour Savard, même si j'aime mieux qui reste (à moins qu'une équipe désespéré leur offre la lune). Aussi, j'aime bien ton idée avec Andersson, mais Calgary risque de demander assez cher (genre Barron + leur choix de 1er tour en lien avec l'échange de Monahan), mais je suis ouvert.



Et je n'ai même pas parler des gardiens. Je fais parti de ceux qui pense que le CH vont échanger Allen (à 50%)................... et qui vont échanger Primeau par la suite pour un bon prix. Mon rêve serais que le CH signe Fleury pour une seule saison (sa dernière saison en carrière à la maison) afin qui soient backup à Montembeault.
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