Yuck

Stop it already. You are making Blues fans look foolish. This is a good offer. Can Blues do better? Probably. But I would take this if best they got this year. Won’t get this next year for him.

I think AZ would rather have a late pick, but maybe they'd consider that if they like Niemalainen. They do like size on the back end and up the middle.

Sharks hangup

Why would Anaheim want Janmark??

We much rather keep Carrick

Carrick can play RW better than Janmark and he's more familiar with the Ducks, so I don't see any point in this UFA swap.

That barely enough to dump campbell let alone acquire Duclair and blackwood

I second this! This offer can definitely get beat and I would like Bourgult over Lavoie but if we got this for Buch I would be down

And if need be we can flip Foegole for futures too

Good offer? Retaining 2m alone for next season is a problem that's going to be hard to overcome. Broberg has a full season of games under his belt and can't stay at the NHL level, on a team that has had alot of issues defensively. Foegle isn't a bad player. Lavoie is a decent prospect. But i find it really hard to trust any Edmonton prospect given they all fit the same profile and generally don't make much of an impact at the NHL level, like they have for years.

Either you view Broberg as an 8th overall pick and still holding value, or you view Lavoie alot higher than I do. But there's a long list of these guys Edmonton are drafting who are big bodies who can skate but don't ever really pan out. I would rather avoid that as we have had our fill with Paajarvii.

Certainly not retaining for that.

Look at the Blues cap space next year - they can easily retain for 1 year. Broberg has potential to be top pairing partner for a Parayko they desperately lack. I think the Blues could do better but by no means is this a bad offer

What aside from draft position has indicated you that Broberg has a good chance to be a top pairing defenseman in the NHL?

Just to preface this with, I think a trade of 2 firsts, Akey and Janmark for Buch (50%) and Sundqvist may hit your needs in STL more, not saying that 100% though.

Broberg is an NHL defensemen who is unfortunately behind Nurse and Ekholm who are just undoubtedly better.
We used to play him on the 3rd pair but it was pointless to give him ~10mins a night when he can develop in the AHL on the top pair.

IDK what STL is looking like on the LH side for Dmen prospects, but Broberg is still easily top 4 potential.

I gotta agree with this. If Broberg is the center piece I’m terrified. Sure maybe he figures it all out and turns into a top pair but he’s looked lost this year without a lot of responsibility

It does, I'm not sure if St. Louis would move Sunny but it's alot better on the track of what I personally believe they'd be looking for.

I understand that he was behind both Nurse and Ekholm, but I think you can understand the sentiment of not trusting many if any of Edmonton's prospects given the recent past. I believe Broberg is an NHL defenseman to a degree, but I think it's hard to imagine him being an impactful top 4 defenseman. A player in a similar situation in Kravstov last season was traded for a 7th and a contract. He's just played enough games at the NHL level it's hard not to see the immense risk that he probably isn't anything more than a bottom pairing guy.

Most of that bolded sentiment comes due to our 2021 draft where we moved back from Wallstedt to XB, who isn't panning out well enough to justify that move.
Otherwise we have done well:
Our 5 most recent drafts we got: Bouchard, Broberg, Holloway, Schaefer in the first.
Bouchard and Holloway are both doing well in the NHL, Holloway obvs doesnt have great stats to support that but he fits a role we need.
In the second we got: Mcleod, Rodrigue, Lavoie, Savioe and Akey; 3 of which look like easy NHL players and 1 (Lavoie) is a decent 13th forward.
We also were a competitive team throughout that, so our picks have generally been later (though yes, Broberg was #8), altogether we have been fairly solid drafting given our position.
That is besides the point though so TLDR: We have done alright in recent drafts.

Broberg is still a great Dman who showed he is good at the NHL level in the little time he's been up with us, his situation is just unfortunate for him because we traded for a much better LHD to fill our top four who took his spot.
On a team where he could get ~18 mins a night he could flurish, which is why Holland is having such a difficult time letting him go.

Wow a bunch of garbage for Pavel Buchnevich, Detroit blows away that crap offer.