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50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)

Mar. 8 at 3:05 p.m.
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So did the math and with the no more limited to roster size (besides cap) Robertson can come up

Kind of surprised no Dowd but then again Wsh proba stuck to its first
Mar. 8 at 3:07 p.m.
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So did the math and with the no more limited to roster size (besides cap) Robertson can come up

Kind of surprised no Dowd but then again Wsh proba stuck to its first


There is absolutely zero chance they were asking a 1st for Dowd given how the market played out
Mar. 8 at 3:07 p.m.
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B- Tdl

We didn't lose any significant prospect and still got our 1sts

Was not a term market like tast TDL

Would have liked another pk forward but the good ones were to expensive for rentals

It's on the big 4 now as it should be. No more galaxy brain **** play
Mar. 8 at 3:07 p.m.
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
There is absolutely zero chance they were asking a 1st for Dowd given how the market played out


Thats why I said I'm fine with not adding. He ain't Coleman or Hagel lul

Like only guy kind of would have liked Ben Meyers as he and Knies played together
Mar. 8 at 3:10 p.m.
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F- TDL

Leafs watched as EVERY OTHER POSSIBLE OPTION FOR A RD1 SERIES GOT BETTER SIGNIFICANTLY MEANWHILE THEIR TDL ACQUISITION WAS LOSING LAGESSON FOR NOTHING
Mar. 8 at 3:13 p.m.
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F- TDL

Leafs watched as EVERY OTHER POSSIBLE OPTION FOR A RD1 SERIES GOT BETTER SIGNIFICANTLY MEANWHILE THEIR TDL ACQUISITION WAS LOSING LAGESSON FOR NOTHING


Overreaction of year

Only team who got significantly better this Tdl is Vgk but they were gifted with cap space

Avs be a close 2nd but they still have georgiev in net

As said before playoffs be a different game and regular season matchups mean Jack all

Nyr swept Canes in reg season got swept by then in playoffs
Mar. 8 at 3:15 p.m.
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Overreaction of year


TBL - Dumba
Florida - Tarasenko/Okposo
NYR - Roslovic/Wenneberg
BOS - Maroon/Peeke
CAR - Guentzel
Mar. 8 at 3:17 p.m.
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TBL - Dumba
Florida - Tarasenko
NYR - Roslovic/Wenneberg
BOS - Maroon/Peeke
CAR - Guentzel


Dumba ain't an upgrade for TBL.

CAR got Guentzel but goaltending still ?. They will need to pray and score the issues away

Bos got old 4th liner and overpaid #8 Dman. Would be surprised if either plays in playoffs

NYR give em Wennberg but it's not a significant improvement look what happened last year

Again only team be VGk
Mar. 8 at 3:17 p.m.
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We got Dewar! I love the fit, hes a young, tenacious, defensively responsible, versatile forward. Great pickup
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Mar. 8 at 3:19 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Dumba ain't an upgrade for TBL.

CAR got Guentzel but goaltending still ?

Bos got old 4th liner and overpaid #8 Dman

NYR give em Wennberg but it's not a significant improvement look what happened last year


Dumba 100% is over Glendenning

Freddie's back for Carolina

Boston got even tougher and Peeke can chew up minutes

And NYR got better... Especially after losing Chytil
Mar. 8 at 3:22 p.m.
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Dumba 100% is over Glendenning

Freddie's back for Carolina

Boston got even tougher and Peeke can chew up minutes

And NYR got better... Especially after losing Chytil


Glendening is a forward nothing to do with Dumbawhose a Dman and with no ret ew

Freddie is inconsistent especially in playoffs. CAR has had goaltending issues still

Bos won't use either guy much if at all as neither is an upgrade over current guys

Nyr only got marginally better as Chytil better then Roslovic and Wennberg combined
Mar. 8 at 3:27 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Glendening is a forward nothing to do with Dumbawhose a Dman and with no ret ew

Freddie is inconsistent especially in playoffs. CAR has had goaltending issues still

Bos won't use either guy much if at all as neither is an upgrade over current guys

Nyr only got marginally better as Chytil better then Roslovic and Wennberg combined


I meant Hayden Fleury...

Freddie's solid during the playoffs...

Maroon will be in if Reaves is in... Or if a game's out of hand and Peeke can work his way in... Never doubt Boston GM

Disagree and NYR have been dealing with Chytil injury for long time
Mar. 8 at 3:30 p.m.
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Dewar to TOR 2026

24 years old RFA

I like for B6
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Mar. 8 at 3:31 p.m.
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Dewar for 26 4th.

RFA

It's odd the Leafs went into the TDL and came out with one less dman...
Mar. 8 at 3:34 p.m.
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I'll switch my original grade from F- to D- for Dewar
Mar. 8 at 3:35 p.m.
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I'll switch my original grade from F- to D- for Dewar


You're sleeping on Dewar
Mar. 8 at 3:37 p.m.
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
You're sleeping on Dewar


If Dewar proves himself, I'll be more optimistic... But he isn't something they needed though...

Who's going to replace Knies during his injury?
Mar. 8 at 3:41 p.m.
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I know a lot of fans aren't particularly happy with that TDL, but I am very happy with how we approached it. We didn't go "all in" and spend a ton on the flashy targets, but we addressed areas of need for solid prices and acquired guys who aren't going to have one-off stints with the Leafs.

Lyubushkin was a guy I wasnt stoked about getting, but he has been pretty solid so far. Doubt he sticks around next season, but I have enjoyed his second stint with the Leafs in the very small sample size we've seen it.

Edmundson is an addition I really like. Cheap, veteran defenseman who keeps it simple and has a mean crosscheck in his repertoire. Fans will love him, especially in the playoffs.

Webber was a minor move, but I really liked that pickup. Huge, rangy defenseman who moves well and eats pucks. Great gamble and is the exact kind of trade Ive wanted to see us make for a while.

Dewar is my favourite addition of the TDL. He is what the Leafs wanted Gregor to be. He is a pending RFA, an excellent skater, a guy who that doesnt shy away from physicality, kills penalties very well, and has posted excellent results despite being given only ~10 minutes of ice time. Should be the PERFECT compliment to that Tavares and Jarnkrok 3rd line. Really hope he sticks around, he is going to be one of the best additions at this years TDL
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Mar. 8 at 3:44 p.m.
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I don't hear the Leafs making more moves, so here is the TDL summary:

In:
Ilya Lyubuskin (75% Retained)
Joel Edmundson (50% Retained)
Connor Dewar
Kirill Slepets (Signing Rights) - Expires: Indefinite
Cade Webber (Signing Rights) - Expires: Aug 15 2024


Out:

2024 3rd (NYI)
2025 3rd
2024 6th
2025 5th (CHI)
2026 4th
2026 6th
Mar. 8 at 3:48 p.m.
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Given this TDL:

The Leafs have these picks over the next 3 years remaining:

2024 1st
2026 1st
2026 3rd
2024 4th
2024 5th
2024 5th (CHI)
2024 5th (VAN
2025 5th
2026 5th
2025 6th
2024 7th
2024 7th (OTT)
2025 7th
2026 7th

With the lack of draft picks, I am hoping Leafs will acquire Tsyplakov
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Mar. 8 at 3:54 p.m.
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I see a lot of people saying that the Leafs should've gone all in at the TDL because Matthews is on pace for 70, Nylander is having a career year, and a bunch of other things are going right, but I think there are some of the reasons the Leafs didnt have to go all in. How many contenders have a core forward group as stacked as the Leafs? Very few, only Edmonton and Colorado are in the same tier as us. What we needed were some defenseman to simplify everything and clear the front of the net, and also some PK help up from. What did we add? Two defenseman who clear the net front, keep it simple, and kill penalties. Also added a young forward with good defensive results who kills penalties. Just because it wasn't flashy doesn't mean it was bad.

Sure, Florida added Tarasenko. Their forward group still isn't as good as ours. They beat us with their defense and goaltending. Boston literally only added Maroon. Tampa added Dumba and Duclair, 2 guys who have been ridiculed to no end (although I like both of them). Im pretty content with how the Leafs approached this. Would you guys have felt better if we did what we did last year only for the result to be the same? I dont think this is the end of the world, the Leafs were smart and did well.
Mar. 8 at 4:02 p.m.
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Quoting: CameronSquires
Dewar for 26 4th.

RFA

It's odd the Leafs went into the TDL and came out with one less dman...


Once Timmins gets healthy it evens out
Mar. 8 at 4:03 p.m.
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Edited Mar. 8 at 4:19 p.m.
Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
I see a lot of people saying that the Leafs should've gone all in at the TDL because Matthews is on pace for 70, Nylander is having a career year, and a bunch of other things are going right, but I think there are some of the reasons the Leafs didnt have to go all in. How many contenders have a core forward group as stacked as the Leafs? Very few, only Edmonton and Colorado are in the same tier as us. What we needed were some defenseman to simplify everything and clear the front of the net, and also some PK help up from. What did we add? Two defenseman who clear the net front, keep it simple, and kill penalties. Also added a young forward with good defensive results who kills penalties. Just because it wasn't flashy doesn't mean it was bad.

Sure, Florida added Tarasenko. Their forward group still isn't as good as ours. They beat us with their defense and goaltending. Boston literally only added Maroon. Tampa added Dumba and Duclair, 2 guys who have been ridiculed to no end (although I like both of them). Im pretty content with how the Leafs approached this. Would you guys have felt better if we did what we did last year only for the result to be the same? I dont think this is the end of the world, the Leafs were smart and did well.


This was not the TDL for all in and there wasn't guys with term to target it seems and not a fan of 1st or 2nd for rentals

This FA is where u do that especially for Dman


Edmundson is a big playoff type Dman who will clear net front bodies

Lybushkin is the type of Dman who works well with Rielly and so far its been fine

Dewar is 24 years old and has 10 goals playing 11mins a game

Webber is 23 and a 6'7 guy who in 2 years could be pushing for a 3rd pair job here

As said before B-
Mar. 8 at 4:15 p.m.
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One thing I hate is half-assed approaches... this was a pathetic deadline.
Mar. 8 at 4:23 p.m.
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https://twitter.com/RinkRatReport/status/1766204395283255604

Holmberg-Kampf-Dewar is gonna be fun
 
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