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Mar. 19 at 9:39 p.m.
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Close one, not as bad as it looked tbh
Mar. 19 at 9:42 p.m.
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Quoting: CameronSquires
Close one, not as bad as it looked tbh


It was pretty bad sorry

Flyers HS their captain and a few other guys and basically smacked TOR for most of the game. Didnt start on time in both 1st and 2nd leading to 2 goals by PHI

I know there were posts but still

Matthews looked like a ghost out there, Robertson's probs on a trip to the pressbox, and yea not good

Just letting points bleed again not what you want to be doing a month from playoffs
Mar. 19 at 9:49 p.m.
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Rielly-Liligren
Benoit-McCabe
Edmundson-Timmins

Brodie needs to sit for a bit and Timmins would be more useful for the PP for now
Mar. 19 at 11:25 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Leafs be getting into playoff form it seems.....

But hey Marner's leverage is growing in every game he's not playing rn. Look how you guys are without me 13m pls

Maybe its time for a shakeup to wake em up. Maybe a HS of Matthews would do the trick. Worked when Rielly got suspended maybe its time for something less extreme but still eye opening


Matthews? I was thinking Willy would be a better message...

They are forcing Matthews to be the set up guy... Which he's not...
Mar. 19 at 11:26 p.m.
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Matthews looked like a ghost out there, Robertson's probs on a trip to the pressbox, and yea not good


You mean the guy that cause 2 goals for + bunch of posts
Mar. 20 at 12:00 a.m.
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Edited Mar. 20 at 12:12 a.m.
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You mean the guy that cause 2 goals for + bunch of posts


He didnt really cause 2 goals. He helped but wasnt the main reason

A primary and secondary assist and not showing much is not good for the guy who should be bringing it night after night but folds when facing these kinds of teams

And just in time for playoffs coming up....
Mar. 20 at 12:00 a.m.
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Edited Mar. 20 at 12:11 a.m.
Quoting: Leafsfan98
Matthews? I was thinking Willy would be a better message...

They are forcing Matthews to be the set up guy... Which he's not...


Matthews is the best player on the TML. You want to send a message u HS that guy for slacking a few

Willy its just expected and wont send much of a message

Look what PHI did, HS their best guy and their captain and it worked very well

You HS Matthews that will wake em up quick
Mar. 20 at 12:00 a.m.
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https://x.com/BarDown/status/1770298981358162417?s=20

Man, I cant help but feel for Soupy. Everything has gone wrong for the guy, which is a real shame because hes so easy to cheer for. Miss him in Toronto
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Mar. 20 at 12:05 a.m.
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Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
https://x.com/BarDown/status/1770298981358162417?s=20

Man, I cant help but feel for Soupy. Everything has gone wrong for the guy, which is a real shame because hes so easy to cheer for. Miss him in Toronto


And Holland Tampered for him.....

Its kind of Karma at this point

Sucks for the player but hey Holland got what he deserved. 100% though Jacks getting BO this summer

Maybe a league min reunion
Mar. 20 at 12:14 a.m.
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https://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/1770273221423567321

This is the kind of quote that gets a man fired

What we on game 67?

Your job is to get these guys ready and were near playoffs and this is what we got

You expect this game 1-10 not 67
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Mar. 20 at 7:18 a.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
https://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/1770273221423567321

This is the kind of quote that gets a man fired

What we on game 67?

Your job is to get these guys ready and were near playoffs and this is what we got

You expect this game 1-10 not 67


This is him taking responsibility for his guys. He gave it to them pretty good with other quotes, so probably wanted to reel it in a bit. They talked before the game about what to expect with Couts getting scratched and Torts' first game back - the players knew the Flyers were gonna come out hot and bothered. He can't be on the ice with them. It was the same sh*t under Babcock. You're professional athletes and the game starts at 7, be f*cking ready
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Mar. 20 at 9:58 a.m.
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Matthews is the best player on the TML. You want to send a message u HS that guy for slacking a few

Willy its just expected and wont send much of a message

Look what PHI did, HS their best guy and their captain and it worked very well

You HS Matthews that will wake em up quick


Slacking a few?

He's put in a spot to be the playmaker... He's not as good as playmaking as he is at burying...

And he was THE reason for 2/3 goals for, didn't realized you loved losing 4-1 instead of 4-3...

That's like saying HS Rielly for the Rielly-Brodie pair being bad... They are put in these bad situations

And with Marner+Jarny out... You're running with a team at the lowest cap hit of the league...

It doesn't make Marner's value go up as they are missing that money that could've been spent helping Matthews/DCore out...

The team looked exactly how Keefe fixed it, the question is how do they respond on the second half of a b2b with travel... And please don't make it Rielly-Brodie more
Mar. 20 at 10:06 a.m.
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I love how Philly healthy scratches their captain...beats us (in a game in which they had 2 seeing eye shots find their way through traffic and we hit a billion posts) and the knee-jerk reaction is that we should start benching our stars.

Not saying it wasn't a sloppy game and all due to bad luck...but if one of ours goes in and one of theirs doesn't...then Torts gets blasted even more for his idiotic decision and handling of the scratches
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Mar. 20 at 12:31 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Or just bridge him till he actually earns it. Cozens had 31 goals when he signed that deal

SEA should not begiving him 7m rn when hes got 28 points and 10 goals. A Chytil deal's better for him especially with his drop of play this season

Either way they got the space to sign Tolvanen to 6.5m and be fine


Chytil is 3C for Rangers
Beniers is 1C for Kraken

Down year for Beniers this year but looked good last year, he's their franchise guy I'll bet money they lock him up with term and project long term with him
Mar. 20 at 1:01 p.m.
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Edited Mar. 20 at 1:12 p.m.
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Chytil is 3C for Rangers
Beniers is 1C for Kraken

Down year for Beniers this year but looked good last year, he's their franchise guy I'll bet money they lock him up with term and project long term with him


That dont mean much when it comes to production

If Minten had 28 points and was TOR 1c would u give him 7m? no

Chytil is the 3c in NYR due to their depth. Beniers is in a role he shouldnt be with SEA due to their lack of depth. As such should not be gambling on 7m until he actually shows he is ready. Look at Laf #1 OA pick played top 9 took a bridge deal in the mid 2m

As such a Chytil bridge is the smart play until he takes that next step
Mar. 20 at 1:03 p.m.
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I love how Philly healthy scratches their captain...beats us (in a game in which they had 2 seeing eye shots find their way through traffic and we hit a billion posts) and the knee-jerk reaction is that we should start benching our stars.

Not saying it wasn't a sloppy game and all due to bad luck...but if one of ours goes in and one of theirs doesn't...then Torts gets blasted even more for his idiotic decision and handling of the scratches


In general it would send a pretty powerful message to HS a star especially when they been slacking. Matthews has not looked the same these last 11 games.

Its something to consider as rn the March Leafs could use one rn

As rn only Marner's camp is benefiting
Mar. 20 at 1:06 p.m.
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Edited Mar. 20 at 1:16 p.m.
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Slacking a few?

He's put in a spot to be the playmaker... He's not as good as playmaking as he is at burying...

And he was THE reason for 2/3 goals for, didn't realized you loved losing 4-1 instead of 4-3...

That's like saying HS Rielly for the Rielly-Brodie pair being bad... They are put in these bad situations

And with Marner+Jarny out... You're running with a team at the lowest cap hit of the league...

It doesn't make Marner's value go up as they are missing that money that could've been spent helping Matthews/DCore out...

The team looked exactly how Keefe fixed it, the question is how do they respond on the second half of a b2b with travel... And please don't make it Rielly-Brodie more


He's been slacking from his usual standards lets be real.

Last night got 2 assists but was on against for 3 goals. Your acting like he was the for sure factor he scored all those goals when he wasnt. He played a role but not the X factor. Cant always defend a guy playing half assed and making 13.25m who with the team decided to play 20mins of proper hockey rather than a full 60


As said before the only guy benefiting rn is Marner's camp as the leafs record is bad without him and they look lost out there. His value is just rising by the game

15-14-5 without him total, PP 11.8% after he got hurt and before 19.3%, 79.7% PK before hurt and 68.4% after
Mar. 20 at 1:12 p.m.
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He's been slacking

Last night got 2 assists but was on against for 3 goals. Your acting like he was the for sure factor he scored all those goals when he wasnt. He played a role but not the factor. Cant always defend a guy playing half assed and making 13.25m or a team who decided to play 20mins of hockey rather than a full 60


As said before the only guy benefiting rn is Marner's camp as the leafs record is bad without him and they look lost out there. His value is just rising by the game


No he wasn't... The Domi line was on for 2 against... Matthews line was on for 2 against... And both were with Rielly-Brodie (one of them was GI and the other was Rielly and Brodie having a competition on who can set the best screen for Sammy

No his isn't... You do realize the Leafs are icing the least valuable cap hit team in the league with Marner out right? Tre can say that they are icing a 70 million dollar team vs 83.5 million dollar team... There's a big difference there

And they looked great with Jarny in but he's also hurt, is he now going to demand 4+?
Mar. 20 at 1:19 p.m.
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No he wasn't... The Domi line was on for 2 against... Matthews line was on for 2 against... And both were with Rielly-Brodie (one of them was GI and the other was Rielly and Brodie having a competition on who can set the best screen for Sammy

No his isn't... You do realize the Leafs are icing the least valuable cap hit team in the league with Marner out right? Tre can say that they are icing a 70 million dollar team vs 83.5 million dollar team... There's a big difference there

And they looked great with Jarny in but he's also hurt, is he now going to demand 4+?


Matthews had 2 assists and was a -1 he was on for more goals against then he helped generate. Hes not been great these past 11 games and since Marner got hurt hes looked lost at times.

Dont care for Rielly-Brodie as its only till Boosh is back. We know that dont work were talking bigger picture and that picture is when your star is not playing great your not going anywhere

Moving back to Matthews, hes not played great in March. And were a month away from playoffs in which we have also seen issues there with him before.

The argument of least valuable cap hit team is silly. Flyers HS their captain and other guys and basically dictated play for 40mins. Its a bad excuse if were going there. Like at this point were just running out of em for a team who shouldnt be getting it at this point were in game 67

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf6RfIlnV2M&ab_channel=TheLeafsNation

This guy played hockey in the NHL and was spot on

Matthews and the Leafs did not play well thats really it, they played 20mins of hockey and thats not enough. You got a rested WSH team today lets see but its the second half of a B2B so its 50/50 but WSH is gonna play to keep its playoff spot so if we do not start on time were in trouble
Mar. 20 at 1:29 p.m.
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Matthews had 2 assists and was a -1 he was on for more goals against then he helped generate.

Dont care for Rielly-Brodie as its only till Boosh is back. We know that dont work were talking bigger picture and that picture is when your star is not playing great your not going anywhere

Matthews has not played great in March. And were a month away from playoffs in which we have also seen issues there with him

Also the argument of least valuable cap hit team is silly. Flyers HS their captain and other guys and basically dictated play for 40mins. Its a bad excuse if were going there. Matthews and the Leafs did not play well thats really it, they played 20mins of hockey and thats not enough. You got a rested WSH team today lets see but its the second half of a B2B so its 50/50 but WSH is gonna play to keep its playoff spot so if we do not start on time were in trouble


Ya, because 1 of them was on the PP... As you could've seen, Domi was a -2

Then why are you blaming Matthews when he's on for a known bad pair... 28% xGF%

No, it isn't... That's like saying Toronto should have a cap hit of 70 mill and everyone else gets 83.5 mill and wonder why Toronto's losing... And 2 goals in each of the opening minutes in the first 2 periods is unacceptable

Toronto's gotta start on time vs WSH, you are right. So stop starting the 3rd line
Mar. 20 at 1:34 p.m.
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Quoting: LeafsFanForSomeReason
This is him taking responsibility for his guys. He gave it to them pretty good with other quotes, so probably wanted to reel it in a bit. They talked before the game about what to expect with Couts getting scratched and Torts' first game back - the players knew the Flyers were gonna come out hot and bothered. He can't be on the ice with them. It was the same sh*t under Babcock. You're professional athletes and the game starts at 7, be f*cking ready


I was happy for him saying he didnt like anybody quote but at the same time get em ready and if they play like this then you kind of have to go okay time to send a message

Whether its a HS or something send a message as its game 67 and we cant be like this with playoffs approaching

We will see how they respond tonight but its 50/50 on b2b days
Mar. 20 at 2:30 p.m.
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It was pretty bad sorry

Flyers HS their captain and a few other guys and basically smacked TOR for most of the game. Didnt start on time in both 1st and 2nd leading to 2 goals by PHI

I know there were posts but still

Matthews looked like a ghost out there, Robertson's probs on a trip to the pressbox, and yea not good

Just letting points bleed again not what you want to be doing a month from playoffs


Fair, I'm just tryna cope tbh
Mar. 20 at 5:49 p.m.
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Brodie healthy scratch, Reaves injured

Timmins&Gregor play

I believe Benoit is still in for Boosh as I haven’t heard anything abt Boosh returning.

Going to be interesting seeing pairs tonight
Mar. 20 at 5:52 p.m.
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I’m thinking tonight might be like

Rielly-McCabe
Benoit-Liljegren
Edmundson-Timmins

?
Mar. 20 at 5:55 p.m.
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Quoting: CameronSquires
I’m thinking tonight might be like

Rielly-McCabe
Benoit-Liljegren
Edmundson-Timmins

?


I'd like to see Rielly - McCabe get some runway, really wanted to see them paired earlier in the season

Brodie getting scratched was a longtime coming, but I question the decision to scratch him now with Lyubushkin being out. Timmins has been out for a WHILE, I guess we'll see how it goes
 
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