What's fair value? Way more than that. This Petterson drama is fascinating because he's an RFA at the end of the year, they aren't trading him by the deadline. But at the draft the sweepstakes could get insane.

I think the league has transitioned a bit away from quantity in these types of trades and the Nucks will want less pieces who are better players and I think this trade has to include one of Raymond or Seider.

It definitely does not have to include one of Raymond or Seider, but it will probably have to include both Edvinsson and Kasper.

They’re not getting a Seider form any team unless it were closer to a 1 for 1 deal.

agreed, you have a elite play driver who is only 25, a player who is safe defensively, and someone who represents the hardest piece in hockey to acquire- a bonafide franchise player. The canucks can't accept anything short of a package including a great roster player, the top prospect in the system, and a first round pick.

I'd say look at Florida.

Here- matta sucks, wallinder isnt showing promise, fabbri has the knees of a 88 year old powerlifter, you're essentially trading for Kasper a 1 and a 2, which is clearly just a bad deal.

More sure things need to be added or pieces which allow the canucks flexibility. the issue is the canucks are win now.

Id say the deal starts at:
Veleno, Kasper, Edvinson and a 1
or
Seider, Kasper + pick

What the hell is going on in Vancouver fantasy land lmfao. No, you're not going to get 3+ core pieces for a 1C, nor are you going to get a young 1D. Ground your expectations before you want to end up killing Allvin for a "disappointing" return.

maybe this, but also i think canucks fans understand that the most valuable piece in a franchise is the 1C and theyd be getting an elite one in his prime

I'm not disagreeing with that sentiment, however, no team is gonna give up that many prime pieces for a single player, let alone a 1D (which is up teeth in importance with 1C).

It sounds like he's going to re-sign, but my post mentioned quality over quantity. If the Wings (or someone else) traded for Petterson, I think it would be something like Raymond, a good prospect and a 1st or Seider and a mid prospect or possibly straight up. It's not multiple core pieces, Nucks don't have enough leverage for that.

Depends on the prospect -- Raymond + 1st makes sense, but don't think you'll get a cream-of-the crop prospect without sending another guy back.
Seider is obviously non-negotiable -- Although 1Cs are more important, 1Ds are far more scarce, let alone ones that are 23 y/o and on the right side.
Whenever trading a player of Petterson's ability, you're almost bound to lose.

Alas, it seems like he'll re-sign and the whole fiasco'll come to an end.

good points, i'd agree, but with that said seider isnt a sure thing yet, we know what EP is

If Seider isn't considered a "sure thing" then idk if you can consider anyone relatively young a sure thing.

when i say that i mean proportionally.

EP is a top 10 Forward in the league. Seider is a sure thing to be great, but im saying petey has reached his ceiling (or a level that is amazing), and he is a sure thing to produce 90-100 points and play 1C minutes/drive a line etc,

Sieder is very good, but still is not a top 10 Dman. he still has room to grow. He can absolutely be a top 10 dman, but is not there yet that is why more value would have to be added. there is inherent risk