Has Toronto ever had a real 1st pair RIGHT hand defense

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Created by: FireShanahanTrelivingKeefe

Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 2, 2024

Published: Mar. 2, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Why is TML the only NHL team to never be able to get a real top 4 right hand defnse ever?
We have had Zaitsev, Ceci, Barrie, Schenn, Lijegren, Brodie (LEFT), Hainsey(LEFT) and what other useless right hand defense to pair with Rielly?
SEA has been a team for what 3 years and has better all around defense.
VGK has been around 8 years and won a cup with way better defense then TML.
But hey lets keep Brodie to pair with Rielly and lose in 1st round again.

Trades

TOR

Carlson, John

WSH

Tavares, John ($4,000,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Never should have been signed to 7 years max 5 and we would have been ok because rigt now he would be making 5 m or less and we could afford a real right hand defense!

TOR

2024 2nd round pick (NYI)

NYI

Brodie, TJ ($2,500,000 retained)

TOR

Laughton, Scott

PHI

Robertson, Nicholas
2026 1st round pick (TOR)

TOR

2024 3rd round pick (CHI)

CHI

Timmins, Conor

Retained Salary Transactions

John Tavares: $4,000,000 (36.36%)
TJ Brodie: $2,500,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$82,972,283	$0	$0	$527,717

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Knies, Matthew $925,000$925,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C NMC UFA - 1	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW NMC UFA - 2
Bertuzzi, Tyler $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 1	Domi, Max $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW NMC UFA - 1
McMann, Bobby $762,500$762,500 RW, LW UFA - 1	Laughton, Scott $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, LW UFA - 3	Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
Holmberg, Pontus $800,000$800,000 C, LW RFA - 2	Kämpf, David $2,400,000$2,400,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4	Reaves, Ryan $1,350,000$1,350,000 RW UFA - 3
Gregor, Noah $775,000$775,000 LW, RW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 7	Carlson, John $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Samsonov, Ilya $3,550,000$3,550,000 G UFA - 1
McCabe, Jake $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000$1,400,000 RD RFA - 1	Jones, Martin $875,000$875,000 G UFA - 1
Benoit, Simon $775,000$775,000 LD UFA - 1	Lyubushkin, Ilya $687,500$687,500 RD UFA - 1	Woll, Joseph $766,667$766,667 G RFA - 2
Giordano, Mark $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1
		Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 1
		Klingberg, John $4,150,000$4,150,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1

Mar. 2 at 6:58 p.m.

MediocrityAccetableInToronto

56 years and countin

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Most players in the NHL are left shot, and most players are forwards over dmen, so it’s just a case of statistics. And being a NUMBER ONE RHD, that’s a very rare commodity

Mar. 2 at 7:07 p.m.

GM_SZK

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Ian Turnbull

Mar. 2 at 7:12 p.m.

Hawksguy81

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Hawks decline. Timmins isn't worth a 3rd

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Mar. 2 at 7:36 p.m.

Nipps_4

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Larry Murphy & Rob Ramage…

Mar. 2 at 8:09 p.m.

Campabee

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If you can answer this question it's the last time they did.

When was the last time Toronto made the SCF?

Hint*** it's also the last time they won the cup

Mar. 2 at 8:44 p.m.

dannibalcorpse

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-Caps say no - I would think if they're moving Carlson it would be for picks & prospects, not for another veteran at a position they have decent young options at.

-Islanders say no. They don't have the cap space when everyone's healthy and they're far enough back of the playoffs that they shouldn't be giving up higher picks for rentals.

-Flyers probably say no. The 1st is three drafts away and Robertson hasn't shown off much of his offensive upside at the NHL level yet.

-Timmins isn't worth a 3rd, certainly not to a Blackhawks team that is more about development this season. They can either call someone up from the AHL or pick up a body during one of the rental deals they're sure to make instead of giving up an asset for a lottery ticket.

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Mar. 3 at 9:08 p.m.

FireShanahanTrelivingKeefe

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Quoting: dannibalcorpse

None of these trades are real just talking about why we never have had any good right hand defense ever?
Or really just an overall good defense core!
Or a actual NHL starting goalie!

Mar. 3 at 9:09 p.m.

FireShanahanTrelivingKeefe

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Quoting: Nipps_4

Larry Murphy & Rob Ramage…

We had Murphy at the end of his career and he was awful on TML by then!

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