Just not enough high quality pieces in that package imo, especially if you’re dumping Anderson as well. Even with him in to make salary work he’s a cap dump because of term

Anderson isn't a cap dump, he has value, not a lot but still positive value. In a trade like this though his cap hit isn't even considered, similar to Tatar when we traded Patches. Mailloux, Beck and Barron are all high quality assets and two unprotected 2025 1sts is great value

Remove Mailloux & Letang from the deal. Letang does not have the it factor anymore IMO. I would rather see what Mailloux can do on the PP.

Anderson does not have value. Cut that crap.

You're missing an A+ prospect, and MTL has them.

Hutson/Reinbacher/Roy

way off otherwise.

Plus it's complete fantasy.

I can almost guarantee Anderson after the year he just had, has zero value without retention. If you retain like 40-50%, that's a different story as the main issue is his cap hit. Without retention? Nada. That isn't hyperbole, he is right now one of the worst contracts in the league.

Teams were willing to pay for him when he was still a 20 goal pace guy and the Habs could either retain a little or the other team could send back some offsetting cap. Now that his scoring has evaporated and his physicality and fighting is pretty much non existent also, he's absolutely, without a doubt, a cap dump at full cap hit.

Just cause you don't believe he does doesn't mean he doesn't, GM's value players that have size, speed and skill. They may see him as being overpaid by like 1 mil (maybe even slightly more) but they don't see him as a negative asset (meaning that he doesn't contribute anything to a lineup) at 2-3.5 mil he would be highly sought after, negative value assets wouldn't be.



2 RHD prospects both with top 4 potential,a center prospect with top 6 potential, a winger prospect with middle 6 potential and a young top 4 LHD signed to a team friendly contract plus 2 unprotected 1st round picks have serious value to teams entering a rebuild.

I literally said it was pure fantasy in the title, talk about being butt hurt cause you can't read or comprehend that this is a fantasysite LMAO

Yes if you are trying to get value out of trading Anderson, then you need to retain, if you are trying to just dump his contract then you have to add assets. However when it's included in a package where the other team is gaining significant assets and cap space (around 4 mil) then his cap hit is negligible and nothing needs to be done. Tatar was viewed the same way when we got him from Vegas, do you think RyJo had value at his full cap hit? He was just added to the trade for the same reason Anderson is added to this one and in fact was waived as soon as the trade was completed.

Those players, even in their worst seasons of their career to that point were producing more than Anderson is now, had less term/cap and were/are arguably more established and higher valued players than JA is now.

I've defended Anderson a lot on here these past years, a lot of the negativity was unwarranted because his fancy stats weren't pretty but this year is absolutely worst case scenario. He has zero value and adding him to any deal makes any value being received, lessened. If he had like 1 year maybe 2 left, then you could convince someone but as is, not a single chance. Even 2 years is pushing it.

Yes I understand adding a player to simply offset the caps a little but this is not it. Anderson isn't just an add on.

The Pens would be gaining 4 mil per season in cap space for the next 4 years, that absolutely makes him just an add on

Can you define what an add on is exactly? Because if its simply: "to add something on to another thing" than you yes you are absolutely right.

There are those who go on fantasy websites, and then there are those who live in fantasy worlds. Easy to guess which he takes part in lol

Add-on - something that is added to the trade that neither adds to or takes away from the overall package. This trade has equal value, whether Anderson is included or not, we aren't asking for anything in return and essentially the Pens are getting Anderson for positive cap, meaning they aren't paying more than they were to begin with. You all keep looking at this as if the Pens were having to pay assets or additional cap to take Anderson but they aren't the trade would be the same if he wasn't included but the Habs couldn't fit under the cap, therefore he is quite literally an add on to make the trade work from both sides

Sweet god, if you think adding 5.5M in Anderson's contract for 3 more years neither adds nor subtracts from the total value, we'll just have to agree to disagree then. Nothing left to be say.

Not in the grand scheme of the trade it doesn't, the Pens are freeing up almost as much as Anderson's cap hit essentially rendering his cap hit a wash. You yourself said that Anderson traded on his own would need 50% retention to have positive value or we would have to take back cap. Habs are taking back an addition 88% of his cap essentially making his cap a wash, yes the Pens have to pay him for the next 3 years but they are freeing up an addition 4.85 mil to do so.

Not gonna go further into this with you man. You can think whatever you want. I disagree so far in the other direction its not even worth discussing at this point. Hence the agree to disagree comment.

Would you agree for this trade to work Anderson has to be added or you have to remove Letang, Mailloux, Farrell and Beck? Leaving Crosby for Barron + Harris + Dvorak + 2 1sts (which may be a bit much for a 36 yo pending UFA). The point is the money has to work and adding Anderson (or Gallagher) is the only way to do that without adding Anderson to the deal, basically the Pens are getting cap relief for taking back Anderson (which is negligible in the grand scheme of the trade)

I said I understood it was fantasy, but fantasy can still have a piss poor offer lol

Ya, you're spot on with Anderson, 18pts in 64 games at $5.5M AAV screams value. $2M sure, but he's $5.5M lol