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Created by: NucksnOilers

Team: 2024-25 Vancouver Canucks

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 2, 2024

Published: Apr. 2, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

- I think Hronek is probably asking for a 8.5 million dollar deal, I think the two groups meet in the middle at 7.5 but I wouldn't be shocked if it ends up being 8x8. He's staying no matter what regardless
- I think Joshua signs a 2 year deal at a nice cap hit for both sides in hopes to return an even bigger contract on the open market later
- The writing is on the wall for Mikheyev sadly, he's gone.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Hronek, Filip	8	$7,500,000
Podkolzin, Vasily	2	$1,750,000
Silovs, Arturs	2	$1,250,000
McWard, Cole	2	$950,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Joshua, Dakota	2	$3,250,000
Zadorov, Nikita	4	$4,250,000
Greer, AJ	2	$975,000
Cole, Ian	2	$2,250,000

Trades

VAN

2024 4th round pick (PHI)

Additional Details:

Potential destination?? I've seen some Miles Wood mock trades to the Sabers so maybe Mikheyev is an option too

BUF

Mikheyev, Ilya
2024 6th round pick (SJS)

VAN

Buchnevich, Pavel

STL

Podkolzin, Vasily
2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
2025 1st round pick (VAN)

Additional Details:

Seems like an Allvin move

Buyouts

Oliver Ekman-Larsson: $2,346,667

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$87,700,000	$81,896,667	$0	$475,000	$5,803,333

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Buchnevich, Pavel $5,800,000$5,800,000 LW, RW, C M-NTC UFA - 1	Pettersson, Elias $11,600,000$11,600,000 C, LW UFA - 8	Lekkerimäki, Jonathan $950,000$950,000 ($475,000$475K) RW, C RFA - 2
Höglander, Nils $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Miller, J.T. $8,000,000$8,000,000 C, LW, RW NMC UFA - 6	Boeser, Brock $6,650,000$6,650,000 RW UFA - 1
Joshua, Dakota $3,250,000$3,250,000 LW UFA	Suter, Pius $1,600,000$1,600,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Garland, Conor $4,950,000$4,950,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Di Giuseppe, Phillip $775,000$775,000 LW UFA - 1	Åman, Nils $825,000$825,000 C RFA - 2	Greer, AJ $975,000$975,000 RW, LW UFA

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hughes, Quinn $7,850,000$7,850,000 LD UFA - 3	Hronek, Filip $7,500,000$7,500,000 RD RFA	Demko, Thatcher $5,000,000$5,000,000 G UFA - 2
Soucy, Carson $3,250,000$3,250,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 2	Zadorov, Nikita $4,250,000$4,250,000 LD/RD UFA	Silovs, Arturs $1,250,000$1,250,000 G RFA
Cole, Ian $2,250,000$2,250,000 LD/RD UFA	McWard, Cole $950,000$950,000 RD RFA

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Juulsen, Noah $775,000$775,000 RD UFA - 1		Poolman, Tucker $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 1

Apr. 2 at 2:59 a.m.

Tsmash

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seems like a move where the blues say no

Apr. 2 at 3:12 a.m.

NucksnOilers

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Quoting: Tsmash

seems like a move where the blues say no

The price for Buch is a 1st + 2nd no?

Feels pretty close to that

Apr. 2 at 3:17 a.m.

Tsmash

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Quoting: NucksnOilers

The price for Buch is a 1st + 2nd no?

Feels pretty close to that

No. The blues need defense prospects or young defenseman. If they are trading for picks they are going to want multiple firsts+. They are not actively shopping buch at the moment and will likely seek an extension in the offseason so it is going to take a big offer to pry him out of St. Louis. If the price was a 1st and 2nd he would have never made it past the deadline.

Apr. 2 at 6:13 a.m.

BUFF36

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Yeah Buffalo already is having trouble finding spots for all there Wingers. And the 4th is going the wrong way, guy is owed more than his Cap hit next year.

Apr. 2 at 6:15 a.m.

Beauterham

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Vancouver isn't a good tradingpartner for trading Buch, as the Blues would probably ask for Willander as the main piece coming back, and Van consequently hanging up the phone.

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Apr. 2 at 6:51 a.m.

littlejerryseinfeld

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People dump players to buffalo all the time.

No thanks

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Apr. 2 at 8:34 a.m.

Tennisman142

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Yeah that's a no for the blues. A 1st a year from now, Podklozin who has ok AHL numbers but nothing in the last 2 years in the NHL.

Apr. 2 at 9:36 a.m.

xercuses

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starts with Wallinder

Apr. 2 at 9:36 a.m.

xercuses

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Quoting: Beauterham

Vancouver isn't a good tradingpartner for trading Buch, as the Blues would probably ask for Willander as the main piece coming back, and Van consequently hanging up the phone.

idk why the Nucks would go asking if they arent ready to give up wallinder

Apr. 2 at 9:42 a.m.

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Beauterham

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Quoting: xercuses

idk why the Nucks would go asking if they arent ready to give up wallinder

They first will have to aquire Wallinder from Detroit too. ;-)

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Apr. 2 at 9:48 a.m.

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xercuses

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Quoting: Beauterham

They first will have to aquire Wallinder from Detroit too. ;-)

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Apr. 2 at 10:16 a.m.

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Quoting: xercuses

starts with Wallinder

A pending UFA winger doesn’t get Willander. Guentzel who is better didn’t even return a guaranteed 1st or a prospect on that level

Apr. 2 at 10:19 a.m.

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xercuses

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Quoting: mv21227

A pending UFA winger doesn’t get Willander. Guentzel who is better didn’t even return a guaranteed 1st or a prospect on that level

Guentzel is not better lmao

However look what Lindholm got! id expect something along those lines for buch who is a better all around player than lindholm and Guentzul

Apr. 2 at 10:23 a.m.

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mv21227

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Quoting: xercuses

Guentzel is not better lmao

However look what Lindholm got! id expect something along those lines for buch who is a better all around player than lindholm and Guentzul

Buch is great but Guentzel is absolutely better

Lindholm is also a center which boosted his value. But if you’re expecting something similar to what he got then that wouldn’t be Willander, it would be very close to what the OP offered along with cap like Mikheyev going back. Maybe Raty or D Petey instead of Podkolzin

Apr. 2 at 10:40 a.m.

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mokumboi

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Quoting: Beauterham

Vancouver isn't a good tradingpartner for trading Buch, as the Blues would probably ask for Willander as the main piece coming back, and Van consequently hanging up the phone.

Exactly this.

Apr. 2 at 10:46 a.m.

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xercuses

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Quoting: mv21227

If the blues don’t get something back then I expect them to just keep him

Apr. 2 at 1:54 p.m.

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AntiAnalytics

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Wood to Buffalo might make sense
Mikheyev’s Cap hit is about double Wood’s though,
so we’d pass on him quite easily

Apr. 2 at 2:34 p.m.

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Quoting: Tsmash

I feel like that's the price now rather than the deadline.

If they move him at the deadline it was going to be with retention, the blues are still in the playoff hunt and the team gets him for the playoffs. Even if my package isn't the best fit for the Blues (which it doesn't seem to be) the price is lower than it used to be.

Apr. 2 at 2:36 p.m.

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Tsmash

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Quoting: NucksnOilers

I doubt they lower the price. If they don’t get what they want for him they can just keep him and extend him.

Apr. 2 at 2:37 p.m.

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Quoting: BUFF36

Yeah Buffalo already is having trouble finding spots for all there Wingers. And the 4th is going the wrong way, guy is owed more than his Cap hit next year.

Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld

People dump players to buffalo all the time.

No thanks

Quoting: AntiAnalytics

Wood to Buffalo might make sense
Mikheyev’s Cap hit is about double Wood’s though,
so we’d pass on him quite easily

Yeah swapping the picks in the trade is pretty easy but I understand his contract is a little heavy for the Sabers. Another destination seems to make more sense from what I've read

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Apr. 2 at 2:37 p.m.

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Quoting: Tsmash

I doubt they lower the price. If they don’t get what they want for him they can just keep him and extend him.

The price will absolutely be lower now that he’s a rental rather than a team getting a full season and 2 playoff runs

Apr. 2 at 2:39 p.m.

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AntiAnalytics

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Quoting: NucksnOilers

Yeah swapping the picks in the trade is pretty easy but I understand his contract is a little heavy for the Sabers. Another destination seems to make more sense from what I've read

Or if u guys held $$$

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Apr. 2 at 2:39 p.m.

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Quoting: Tsmash

I doubt they lower the price. If they don’t get what they want for him they can just keep him and extend him.

I don't think it'll be about value in a Buch package more so fit. They would reject the package I proposed but don't be shocked if it's the same kind of package where it's a former 1st round defensive prospect instead of Podz

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