Guys they should target

RESERVE LIST	YEARS	CAP HIT
Broz, Tristan	2	$800,000
Lucius, Cruz	3	$950,000
Yager, Brayden	3	$950,000

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Poulin, Samuel	2	$900,000
Rathbone, Jack	2	$850,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Hakanpää, Jani	2	$2,000,000
Gustafsson, Erik	2	$1,500,000

CREATED	YEARS	CAP HIT
Eernisse, Josh	2	$875,000
Graf, Collin	2	$875,000
McLinskey, Liam	2	$875,000

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$87,500,000	$78,986,009	$0	$77,500	$8,513,991

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Graf, Collin $875,000$875,000	Crosby, Sidney $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NMC UFA - 1	Rust, Bryan $5,125,000$5,125,000 RW, LW NMC UFA - 4
Bunting, Michael $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Malkin, Evgeni $6,100,000$6,100,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Rakell, Rickard $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 4
Smith, Reilly $5,000,000$5,000,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Ponomarev, Vasili $795,000$795,000 ($20,000$20K) C RFA - 1	McLinskey, Liam $875,000$875,000
O'Connor, Drew $925,000$925,000 LW UFA - 1	Poulin, Samuel $900,000$900,000 C, LW RFA - 2	Eernisse, Josh $875,000$875,000
	Broz, Tristan $800,000$800,000 C RFA - 3	Puljujärvi, Jesse $800,000$800,000 RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Graves, Ryan $4,500,000$4,500,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 5	Karlsson, Erik $10,000,000$10,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 3	Jarry, Tristan $5,375,000$5,375,000 G M-NTC UFA - 4
Pettersson, Marcus $4,025,175$4,025,175 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Letang, Kris $6,100,000$6,100,000 RD NMC UFA - 4	Blomqvist, Joel $886,667$886,667 ($57,500$58K) G RFA - 2
Gustafsson, Erik $1,500,000$1,500,000 LD UFA	Hakanpää, Jani $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD UFA
Rathbone, Jack $850,000$850,000 LD UFA

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Nieto, Matt $900,000$900,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Apr. 3 at 9:29 a.m.

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Matt1567

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the logic of "x team needs to reach the cap floor, they should give assets to do so" makes no sense, especially during the offseason. If they are that desperate to reach the floor they can sign free agents to more money than they're worth to get them there, and not move assets to do so

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Apr. 3 at 9:33 a.m.

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I think Sabres can do better for 2mil aav and 3rd than Acciari. He is decent 4th liner, but overpaid.

Apr. 3 at 9:38 a.m.

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Edited Apr. 3 at 9:45 a.m.

Hawks obviously decline. Some team might give you a pick for Eller but it won't be the Hawks. They aren't giving up draft picks to acquire aging vets who don't fill a roster need. And looking at that bottom 6 as constructed, the Pens may want to keep Eller around for after it all goes horribly wrong.

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Apr. 3 at 9:46 a.m.

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Quoting: Matt1567

the logic of "x team needs to reach the cap floor, they should give assets to do so" makes no sense, especially during the offseason. If they are that desperate to reach the floor they can sign free agents to more money than they're worth to get them there, and not move assets to do so

I picked Eller and CHI for a reason.
Namely Bedard's 38.9% faceoff.
Eller is a pretty solid face off guy, given he's not Bergeron or anything, but he's also not bad on the dot.
He can help the younger player develop in that sense. The only other guy Chicago has to really help there is Nick, and he's never been great at the dot, he's more of a winger. So Eller would give him a better guy to learn with. That is worth a 3rd to a team.

It's not always about filling a need for a team not rushing a rebuild. It's about development. Eller has been a decent hard to play against faceoff guy his whole career as a natural center. It's not a bad idea to pair Bedard up with him to develop his skill set.

Apr. 3 at 9:56 a.m.

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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck

I picked Eller and CHI for a reason.
Namely Bedard's 38.9% faceoff.
Eller is a pretty solid face off guy, given he's not Bergeron or anything, but he's also not bad on the dot.
He can help the younger player develop in that sense. The only other guy Chicago has to really help there is Nick, and he's never been great at the dot, he's more of a winger. So Eller would give him a better guy to learn with. That is worth a 3rd to a team.

It's not always about filling a need for a team not rushing a rebuild. It's about development. Eller has been a decent hard to play against faceoff guy his whole career as a natural center. It's not a bad idea to pair Bedard up with him to develop his skill set.

Again if the hawks feel the need to bring in a faceoff specialist, that can be done in free agency without giving up assets.

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Apr. 3 at 10:12 a.m.

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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck

I picked Eller and CHI for a reason.
Namely Bedard's 38.9% faceoff.
Eller is a pretty solid face off guy, given he's not Bergeron or anything, but he's also not bad on the dot.
He can help the younger player develop in that sense. The only other guy Chicago has to really help there is Nick, and he's never been great at the dot, he's more of a winger. So Eller would give him a better guy to learn with. That is worth a 3rd to a team.

It's not always about filling a need for a team not rushing a rebuild. It's about development. Eller has been a decent hard to play against faceoff guy his whole career as a natural center. It's not a bad idea to pair Bedard up with him to develop his skill set.

so why give up a 3rd for him when you can get an equally good or even better player through free agency, he's just an example but Teddy Blueger is a free agent this summer who's 52.8% on faaceoffs this season, they can pay more than he is worth since they have so much cap space and he'll do the same job as Eller but without costing the team a 3rd

Apr. 3 at 10:29 a.m.

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Quoting: Matt1567

so why give up a 3rd for him when you can get an equally good or even better player through free agency, he's just an example but Teddy Blueger is a free agent this summer who's 52.8% on faaceoffs this season, they can pay more than he is worth since they have so much cap space and he'll do the same job as Eller but without costing the team a 3rd

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Again if the hawks feel the need to bring in a faceoff specialist, that can be done in free agency without giving up assets.

I think you are making pretty big assumption that those players don't have other options. C is a need position and those guys can end up going to teams in the hunt.
Since you mentioned Blueger, what reason does Blueger have to sign in CHI where he can continue playing for JR in Van who he has a relationship with and has always been fair to him. Does it surprise you he ended up there to begin with?

There are multiple teams looking for center help. Either to replace what they have, or to fill a whole.

They aren't just growing on trees.
Blueger, which has no reason to leave VAN, Monahan will cost an arm and a leg given how he plays in WPG and doesn't really make sense for CHI. Wennberg isn't a great faceoff guy or defensive center, Carrick maybe but he's probably picked up on a winning team after getting out of ANA. Not sure he wants back on another rebuilding team.

So finding a Vet who is a solid face off guy to help teach isn't as easy to find in FA as you might think. C market is pretty empty at begin with and there are other teams that have needs.
Eller is a really good fit for that on a 1 year deal with a reasonable cap hit. You over here acting like giving up a 3rd round pick is something. Those players have a 16% chance turning into an NHL player that plays 200 games. Let alone an actual good one. It's not like they are giving up their 1st round pick. It's a small price to pay man. Hell it's so little it's an after thought on a Post about NCAA free agents. Get over it.

Apr. 3 at 10:36 a.m.

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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck

I think you are making pretty big assumption that those players don't have other options. C is a need position and those guys can end up going to teams in the hunt.
Since you mentioned Blueger, what reason does Blueger have to sign in CHI where he can continue playing for JR in Van who he has a relationship with and has always been fair to him. Does it surprise you he ended up there to begin with?

There are multiple teams looking for center help. Either to replace what they have, or to fill a whole.

They aren't just growing on trees.
Blueger, which has no reason to leave VAN, Monahan will cost an arm and a leg given how he plays in WPG and doesn't really make sense for CHI. Wennberg isn't a great faceoff guy or defensive center, Carrick maybe but he's probably picked up on a winning team after getting out of ANA. Not sure he wants back on another rebuilding team.

So finding a Vet who is a solid face off guy to help teach isn't as easy to find in FA as you might think. C market is pretty empty at begin with and there are other teams that have needs.
Eller is a really good fit for that on a 1 year deal with a reasonable cap hit. You over here acting like giving up a 3rd round pick is something. Those players have a 16% chance turning into an NHL player that plays 200 games. Let alone an actual good one. It's not like they are giving up their 1st round pick. It's a small price to pay man. Hell it's so little it's an after thought on a Post about NCAA free agents. Get over it.

my point is that if part of the goal of bringing in Eller is to reach the cap floor, then that would imply the hawks have a ton of cap space, why no sign Blueger to say 2 years 5 mil per season to bring him in and do everything Eller can but not cost the hawks a pick. Not tryna argue that a 3rd is a crazy high value piece, but for a team in the situation Chicago is in, it's another shot at a getting a long-term roster player and trading that 16% chance for one year of a veteran doesn't really benefit the hawks. Obviously the pick could be a nobody, and then they essentially have nothing to show for it but I don't get trading the pick if you can keep it and bring in a equal quality player

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Apr. 3 at 11:12 a.m.

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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck

I think you are making pretty big assumption that those players don't have other options. C is a need position and those guys can end up going to teams in the hunt.
Since you mentioned Blueger, what reason does Blueger have to sign in CHI where he can continue playing for JR in Van who he has a relationship with and has always been fair to him. Does it surprise you he ended up there to begin with?

There are multiple teams looking for center help. Either to replace what they have, or to fill a whole.

They aren't just growing on trees.
Blueger, which has no reason to leave VAN, Monahan will cost an arm and a leg given how he plays in WPG and doesn't really make sense for CHI. Wennberg isn't a great faceoff guy or defensive center, Carrick maybe but he's probably picked up on a winning team after getting out of ANA. Not sure he wants back on another rebuilding team.

So finding a Vet who is a solid face off guy to help teach isn't as easy to find in FA as you might think. C market is pretty empty at begin with and there are other teams that have needs.
Eller is a really good fit for that on a 1 year deal with a reasonable cap hit. You over here acting like giving up a 3rd round pick is something. Those players have a 16% chance turning into an NHL player that plays 200 games. Let alone an actual good one. It's not like they are giving up their 1st round pick. It's a small price to pay man. Hell it's so little it's an after thought on a Post about NCAA free agents. Get over it.

They can lure those players to Chicago the same way they resigned all their upcoming UFA's. Pay above market price and come enjoy some of the best facilities in the league in one of the best cities with little pressure to win. There's also a lot more opportunity for playing time on this chicago team so buff up your stats and if you wanna be traded to a contender at the deadline just say the word and Chicago can retain salary to make it happen and gain assets. No reason to give up a 3rd round pick for a guy who won't have any impact on the team when they come out of the rebuild.

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Apr. 3 at 3:06 p.m.

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Quoting: Matt1567

my point is that if part of the goal of bringing in Eller is to reach the cap floor, then that would imply the hawks have a ton of cap space, why no sign Blueger to say 2 years 5 mil per season to bring him in and do everything Eller can but not cost the hawks a pick. Not tryna argue that a 3rd is a crazy high value piece, but for a team in the situation Chicago is in, it's another shot at a getting a long-term roster player and trading that 16% chance for one year of a veteran doesn't really benefit the hawks. Obviously the pick could be a nobody, and then they essentially have nothing to show for it but I don't get trading the pick if you can keep it and bring in a equal quality player

and as I stated, why would Blueger want to leave VAN, under the GM he's played with most of his career and has a good relationship with?
You just assume you can go out and get any player in FA, you can't. There aren't that many guys who fit the bill.

Apr. 3 at 3:08 p.m.

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Quoting: SociallyHawkward

They can lure those players to Chicago the same way they resigned all their upcoming UFA's. Pay above market price and come enjoy some of the best facilities in the league in one of the best cities with little pressure to win. There's also a lot more opportunity for playing time on this chicago team so buff up your stats and if you wanna be traded to a contender at the deadline just say the word and Chicago can retain salary to make it happen and gain assets. No reason to give up a 3rd round pick for a guy who won't have any impact on the team when they come out of the rebuild.

for many players a little bit more money isn't worth the move. It's kids out of schools, moving houses etc....
It's an assumption you can lure a player away. As I stated before if your only reason for Blueger to play in chicago is a little more money, there isn't much reason for him to leave VAN.
you are just hung up on a 3rd round pick as if it means something.

Apr. 3 at 3:27 p.m.

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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck

for many players a little bit more money isn't worth the move. It's kids out of schools, moving houses etc....
It's an assumption you can lure a player away. As I stated before if your only reason for Blueger to play in chicago is a little more money, there isn't much reason for him to leave VAN.
you are just hung up on a 3rd round pick as if it means something.

Only one hung up on anything is you. Hawks rather gamble on the 3rd than the 34 year old bottom 6 player that doesn't fit the rebuild or fill a need. You bring up faceoffs like the only way to possibly learn how to win a faceoff is to have a current player teach you. If the hawks were so concerned about bedards faceoffs they'd have toews or any former player come in and teach him.

Apr. 3 at 4:02 p.m.

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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck

and as I stated, why would Blueger want to leave VAN, under the GM he's played with most of his career and has a good relationship with?
You just assume you can go out and get any player in FA, you can't. There aren't that many guys who fit the bill.

he was just an example, there's always guys that hit the market whose main goal is to be paid and don't really care by who, and Chicago would be a team that can pay guys say 20% more than any other team would for a short deal just to get guys on the roster

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