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Team: 2024-25 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 3, 2024
Published: Apr. 3, 2024
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-I think Pittsburgh is almost certainly going to chase some veteran talent. RD isn't their top need, but a defenseman with Manson's particular attributes is arguably up there. POJ seems to be expendable, and his next deal will be cheap. The Avs can let him and Johnson battle it out for the final spot in their D. But the main goals for Colorado are moving out money that can be used for Walker and getting the pick, which can be flipped to facilitate the next trade.

I'm not married to the Pens with respect to the Manson move. Just thinking they might be interested, but obviously I could be wrong.


-Montreal has Reinbacher and Barron knocking at the door. I feel like getting a second for a guy they claimed off waivers would be a good victory and would give them trade capital to chase a larger acquisition. The Avs get a big guy on the back end who is affordable and who brings a different skillset than the rest of their D.


-Colton adds a new element to Buffalo's bottom/middle six, which I personally think would do their team a fair amount of good. The Sabres have a lot of young forwards, but some aren't ready, and none seem to be in the vein of a Ross Colton. The Avs likely don't want to move Colton, but they get cap space that they need for Mittelstadt and a guy they hope can benefit from a change in scenery in Krebs. I legitimately feel like this is a good trade for both teams, but that's just my humble opinion.

Let me know your thoughts.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
2$950,000
3$950,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$6,000,000
1$892,500
1$874,125
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$775,000
1$775,000
1$2,000,000
4$4,400,000
1$1,800,000
Trades
1.
COL
  1. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier [RFA Rights]
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (PHI)
Additional Details:
Lower of the two second round picks the Pens hold
PIT
  1. Manson, Josh
  2. 2024 5th round pick (ANA)
2.
COL
  1. Kovacevic, Johnathan
MTL
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (PHI)
3.
COL
  1. Krebs, Peyton [RFA Rights]
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Colton, Ross
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$87,700,000$87,692,042$0$57,500$7,958
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Drouin, Jonathan
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, RW
UFA
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MacKinnon, Nathan
$12,600,000$12,600,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
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Rantanen, Mikko
$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Landeskog, Gabriel
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 5
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Mittelstadt, Casey
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW, C
RFA
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Nichushkin, Valeri
$6,125,000$6,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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Waivers ExemptKovalenko, Nikolai
$896,250$896,250 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
RW
RFA - 1
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Trenin, Yakov
$1,800,000$1,800,000
LW, C
UFA
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Lehkonen, Artturi
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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Wood, Miles
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Krebs, Peyton
$874,125$874,125
C, LW
RFA
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O'Connor, Logan
$1,050,000$1,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Toews, Devon
$7,250,000$7,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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Makar, Cale
$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 3
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Georgiev, Alexandar
$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 1
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Girard, Samuel
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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Kovacevic, Johnathan
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 1
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Waivers ExemptAnnunen, Justus
$837,500$837,500
G
RFA - 2
Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
$892,500$892,500
LD
RFA
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Walker, Sean
$4,400,000$4,400,000
LD/RD
UFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Kiviranta, Joel
$775,000$775,000
RW, LW
UFA
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Johnson, Jack
$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA
Taxi Squad
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Waivers ExemptRitchie, Calum
$950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0)
C
RFA
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Waivers ExemptBehrens, Sean
$950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
RFA - 3

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Apr. 3 at 12:10 p.m.
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Nick_SUCCzuki
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Habs say yes
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Apr. 3 at 12:31 p.m.
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“Maybe” from the Sabres
Apr. 3 at 12:47 p.m.
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habs say yes if thats a 4th instead of a 2nd. He no longer has a spot on the roster and next year there will be even more competition.
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Apr. 3 at 12:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Nick_SUCCzuki
Habs say yes


Oui
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Apr. 3 at 12:52 p.m.
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Quoting: habs_need_Scoring
habs say yes if thats a 4th instead of a 2nd. He no longer has a spot on the roster and next year there will be even more competition.


Honestly I completely agree that a 2nd is high, but I know a lot of Habs fans think otherwise and aimed for the high side. Obviously I'd love to get him for as little as possible.
Apr. 3 at 12:58 p.m.
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Honestly I completely agree that a 2nd is high, but I know a lot of Habs fans think otherwise and aimed for the high side. Obviously I'd love to get him for as little as possible.


ya i think hes going to enter the season at 8th or 9th on the depth chart, habs maybe squeeze a 3rd if the timing is perfect but i dont see them being too worried about the return, given he was a waiver claim any pick up is a solid considering.
Apr. 3 at 12:59 p.m.
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Krebs wouldn't be a fit in the Avs system. He's a little softer and gets lost more often than Jost. He's kind of a high end JLF and that's a bad 4C fit.
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Apr. 3 at 1:00 p.m.
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ya i think hes going to enter the season at 8th or 9th on the depth chart, habs maybe squeeze a 3rd if the timing is perfect but i dont see them being too worried about the return, given he was a waiver claim any pick up is a solid considering.


Who are you projecting to be your top 8 dmen next season?
Apr. 3 at 1:06 p.m.
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Krebs wouldn't be a fit in the Avs system. He's a little softer and gets lost more often than Jost. He's kind of a high end JLF and that's a bad 4C fit.


I don't disagree, but it's a pretty easy fix if he doesn't work out. Looking for a 4C at the tdl is not a bad place to be.

On the other hand, if he buys into Bednar's system and starts to click a little bit, then maybe the team has found a third liner for the future. Worth a shot imo, as it's really cap space and the third that are the main return.
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Apr. 3 at 1:24 p.m.
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This Sabres fans says done deal. I'll drive Krebs to the airport. Or even Colorado if necessary
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Apr. 3 at 1:42 p.m.
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I don't disagree, but it's a pretty easy fix if he doesn't work out. Looking for a 4C at the tdl is not a bad place to be.

On the other hand, if he buys into Bednar's system and starts to click a little bit, then maybe the team has found a third liner for the future. Worth a shot imo, as it's really cap space and the third that are the main return.


I would really like to see Krebs be that, but as someone who watches him often, its not there and Beds won't give him the years it may take.
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Apr. 3 at 1:54 p.m.
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I would really like to see Krebs be that, but as someone who watches him often, its not there and Beds won't give him the years it may take.


I'll just make two points while also conceding that's it's unlikely this becomes a success. One is Drouin, who has bought in and added an element to his game that has never been there. Two is Buffalo's system/culture, in which it's a lot easier and more comfortable to coast.

Again, I'm not saying it will work. But Krebs is a guy that was the engine of his team in the WHL. He has some ability, and it's worth the flyer. He'll be easy to trade if needed, so it's not a big risk.
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Apr. 3 at 2:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Anus_McLeod
Honestly I completely agree that a 2nd is high, but I know a lot of Habs fans think otherwise and aimed for the high side. Obviously I'd love to get him for as little as possible.


I feel that he holds a higher 3rd rounder in value, could be a Kovy + late pick for a 2nd. We'd definitely take the PHI '24 2nd for him, wouldn't even think twice if that was offered.
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Apr. 3 at 3:19 p.m.
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that's a no from PIT, they don't need another high price defenseman.
Apr. 3 at 3:34 p.m.
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Quoting: MeetYourMakar
Who are you projecting to be your top 8 dmen next season?


Ghule,Matheson, Xhekaj, Savard, Strube, Harris, Barron (one of Mailloux Hutson and Reinbarcher) probably makes a case in camp to be considered ahead of Kovacevic. My guess is mailloux after the year hes putting up in laval.
Apr. 3 at 8:33 p.m.
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Doubtful PIT want Manson imo. 2nd for Kovacevic is too high as well, I'd only do that as part of a package......but the Avs don't have a 3rd which is probably about right value pick-wise. Think pure picks are probably better for Colton. If we're looking at 4C then Pavel can do that easy enough and probably better suited. No need for Krebs for that.
 
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