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Created by: edeangel84
Team: 2024-25 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 5, 2024
Published: Apr. 5, 2024
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I was all onboard with scraping this team to the trash heap and starting over. I still am not convinced this team has anything left to offer… but the fact that they are fighting right now and showing a sense of urgency that’s been invisible for months prior tells me that 87 deserves another run. We should be looking to move Jarry and Rakell this offseason. I also hope Dubas learns that a buyout is sometimes a good idea.

Resign:
Crosby 8.7Mx2
Pettersson: 6.5Mx6

Buyout-Reilly Smith

Waive-Acciari

Any RFA who isn’t already ours I’m assuming won’t get a qualifying offer and will be a UFA.

There’s plenty of opportunities for depth players to move into this lineup. We can still send down Puustinen and Poulin among the forwards. Also we could send down Rooney to give Ponomarev a spot if he performs well in WBS. As far as the Dman go, guys like Ludvig, Shea, Rathbone, and St. Ivany all can rotate into the lineup as needed. For goalies Vladar stars the year as the 2, but if he struggles he can be sent down for either Copley or Blomqvist (who I’m hoping is the long term answer).
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$950,000
2$875,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$925,000
2$925,000
2$925,000
1$925,000
1$925,000
1$875,000
1$875,000
1$875,000
1$875,000
1$875,000
1$875,000
1$875,000
1$875,000
1$875,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,250,000
1$850,000
1$900,000
1$875,000
1$875,000
3$5,000,000
4$4,000,000
5$6,000,000
4$2,250,000
1$850,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Douglas, Curtis$875,000No Compensation
Steeves, Alex$875,000No Compensation
Sutter, Riley$875,000No Compensation
Weatherby, Jasper$875,000No Compensation
Hollowell, Mac$875,000No Compensation
Coghlan, Dylan$875,000No Compensation
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. 2026 6th round pick (ARI)
Additional Details:
Rakell is better than this but it’s a contract that needs to be moved. We need to give the younger forwards space to play and we need space for UFAs.
ARI
  1. Rakell, Rickard
  2. Svejkovsky, Lukas
  3. 2025 3rd round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
We give up the higher pick and toss in a minor piece, either a cheap ELC or a mid tier prospect.
2.
PIT
  1. Hunt, Dryden
  2. Rooney, Kevin
  3. Vladar, Daniel
  4. 2024 3rd round pick (VGK)
Additional Details:
This is a trade that occurs AFTER Markstrom is traded. Wolf and Jarry are the Flames goalies.
CGY
  1. Jarry, Tristan
  2. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier [RFA Rights]
  3. 2026 4th round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
Vladar and Rooney come back to help with cap for the upcoming season. POJ and the pick are added in to give a little extra incentive to make the move and take on additional years of Jarry’s contract.
Buyouts
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Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$87,700,000$86,337,676$0$0$1,362,324
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Bunting, Michael
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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Rust, Bryan
$5,125,000$5,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
Monahan, Sean
$4,000,000$4,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA
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Malkin, Evgeni
$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
Toffoli, Tyler
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
UFA
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O'Connor, Drew
$925,000$925,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Eller, Lars
$2,450,000$2,450,000
C
UFA - 1
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Waivers ExemptPuustinen, Valtteri
$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA
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Waivers ExemptPoulin, Samuel
$925,000$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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Rooney, Kevin
$1,300,000$1,300,000
C
UFA - 1
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Puljujärvi, Jesse
$800,000$800,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Pettersson, Marcus
$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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Karlsson, Erik
$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 3
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Nedeljkovic, Alex
$2,250,000$2,250,000
G
UFA
Skjei, Brady
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD
UFA
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Letang, Kris
$6,100,000$6,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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Vladar, Daniel
$2,200,000$2,200,000
G
UFA - 1
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Graves, Ryan
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Chatfield, Jalen
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RD
UFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Nieto, Matt
$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Bemström, Emil
$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
RFA
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Ludvig, John
$775,000$775,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Apr. 5 at 10:40 p.m.
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There’s zero chance Arizona is paying Rakell $5m a season to play on the third line.
Apr. 5 at 10:55 p.m.
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There’s zero chance Arizona is paying Rakell $5m a season to play on the third line.


keller, schmaltz, guenther, maccelli, doan, crouse he ends up on 4th line and agree 5m for 4 more years - pass
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Apr. 6 at 4:29 a.m.
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Calgary certainly won't be taking Jarry. They need to move a goalie out not bring in another one in.
Apr. 6 at 5:54 a.m.
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I think it's far more likely that the Flames go after Talbot, or Quick in free agency if they trade Markstrom.
Apr. 6 at 12:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Bast
I think it's far more likely that the Flames go after Talbot, or Quick in free agency if they trade Markstrom.


A bunch of teams are going to try and pay them. After those two there’s zero good options for UFA goalies.
Apr. 6 at 12:04 p.m.
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keller, schmaltz, guenther, maccelli, doan, crouse he ends up on 4th line and agree 5m for 4 more years - pass


There’s zero chance Rakell ends up on your 4th line.
Apr. 6 at 12:05 p.m.
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There’s zero chance Arizona is paying Rakell $5m a season to play on the third line.


You can sign a better RW for the same cap hit… or you can take him and convert a 6th rounder into a 3rd. I think that’s a very easy decision.
Apr. 6 at 12:16 p.m.
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Calgary certainly won't be taking Jarry. They need to move a goalie out not bring in another one in.


I’m assuming a Markstrom trade is as good as done for once the summer rolls around so that leaves you with Vladar and Wolf. I’m proposing you upgrade that to Jarry and Wolf.
Apr. 6 at 12:18 p.m.
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PIT is in the same race as everybody else…. To get wiped out by Boston/Florida/New York swiftly.
Apr. 6 at 1:52 p.m.
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I’m assuming a Markstrom trade is as good as done for once the summer rolls around so that leaves you with Vladar and Wolf. I’m proposing you upgrade that to Jarry and Wolf.


That makes no sense at all it'd. They'd run with Vladar and Wolf or just keep Markstrom in the first place. Jarry only makes 625k less than Markstrom and his contract has twice as many years left on it. Vladar's contract is much less and expires after the 2024-25 season.
Apr. 6 at 1:56 p.m.
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There’s zero chance Rakell ends up on your 4th line.


exactly because there is no way AZ wants him

lets say he is on team which other W is he replacing? keller/schmaltz 1st? crouse/guenther 2nd? maccelli/doan 3rd? heck carcone on 4W has 21 G and Kerfoot (I know playing C now but has been W mostly) has 42pts, so no rakell is not at all needed on the team. C and D oh yeah
Apr. 6 at 6:07 p.m.
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You can sign a better RW for the same cap hit… or you can take him and convert a 6th rounder into a 3rd. I think that’s a very easy decision.


Josh Doan is a better option, and $25m isn’t some easy float that you think it is.
Apr. 6 at 10:07 p.m.
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Quoting: RazorSeider53
PIT is in the same race as everybody else…. To get wiped out by Boston/Florida/New York swiftly.


We weren’t even in that race 10 days ago, which is why I’m amazed by this team.
Apr. 6 at 10:09 p.m.
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That makes no sense at all it'd. They'd run with Vladar and Wolf or just keep Markstrom in the first place. Jarry only makes 625k less than Markstrom and his contract has twice as many years left on it. Vladar's contract is much less and expires after the 2024-25 season.


Vladar isn’t any good though. Why would you view him as anything but expendable? In fact every player on your side of that trade is expendable. Guys like Hunt and Rooney are waiver guys. If Markstrom decides he no longer is ticked at your ownership and wants to stay then obviously you wouldn’t trade for a goalie. If Markstrom status you’d still want to move out Vladar to clear a spot for Wolf.
Apr. 6 at 10:12 p.m.
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Josh Doan is a better option, and $25m isn’t some easy float that you think it is.


Josh Doan is a better option than a veteran who had 60 points a season ago? If you guys want to be any good next season you’ll need more veteran help. I can’t imagine they want to keep “building for the future” when they finally have an arena plan and the team has been bad for a while now. You have more cap space than almost every team, so why not use it to your advantage? Take on some cap dumps and get paid to do it.
Apr. 6 at 10:13 p.m.
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exactly because there is no way AZ wants him

lets say he is on team which other W is he replacing? keller/schmaltz 1st? crouse/guenther 2nd? maccelli/doan 3rd? heck carcone on 4W has 21 G and Kerfoot (I know playing C now but has been W mostly) has 42pts, so no rakell is not at all needed on the team. C and D oh yeah


He would be able to play on the 3rd line of basically every team in the league and probably on the 2nd line for about 10 other teams.
Apr. 6 at 10:43 p.m.
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Edited Apr. 6 at 10:57 p.m.
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Vladar isn’t any good though. Why would you view him as anything but expendable? In fact every player on your side of that trade is expendable. Guys like Hunt and Rooney are waiver guys. If Markstrom decides he no longer is ticked at your ownership and wants to stay then obviously you wouldn’t trade for a goalie. If Markstrom status you’d still want to move out Vladar to clear a spot for Wolf.


We don't want anything to do with your cap dump goalie with 4 YEARS left on his contract! Get that through your head. Vladar gets paid a whole lot less, only has one year left and has played well when he gets the opportunity to start more than once in a while. We'll see how he performs next year after finally getting a nagging injury fixed surgically after playing with it for 2 or 3 years. If he's good we extend him if not we don't it's no big deal.
Apr. 6 at 10:50 p.m.
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Vladar isn’t any good though. Why would you view him as anything but expendable? In fact every player on your side of that trade is expendable. Guys like Hunt and Rooney are waiver guys. If Markstrom decides he no longer is ticked at your ownership and wants to stay then obviously you wouldn’t trade for a goalie. If Markstrom status you’d still want to move out Vladar to clear a spot for Wolf.

How does Rakell help any of that? Sure, he could absolutely strengthen the bottom 6, but at $5m?
Apr. 6 at 11:49 p.m.
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We don't want anything to do with your cap dump goalie with 4 YEARS left on his contract! Get that through your head. Vladar gets paid a whole lot less, only has one year left and has played well when he gets the opportunity to start more than once in a while. We'll see how he performs next year after finally getting a nagging injury fixed surgically after playing with it for 2 or 3 years. If he's good we extend him if not we don't it's no big deal.


So you’d be ok with an AHL goalie and a goalie who’s not proven anything yet in the NHL? Wolf/Vladar might be the worst tandem in the league if that’s the plan. Ask Buffalo how it went when this time last year they were all convinced Devon Levi would walk into the NHL and dominate.
Apr. 7 at 4:01 a.m.
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He would be able to play on the 3rd line of basically every team in the league and probably on the 2nd line for about 10 other teams.


ok so which current winger is he bumping? also if he is this valuable why are there 20 trades a day getting rid of him?
Apr. 7 at 12:57 p.m.
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ok so which current winger is he bumping? also if he is this valuable why are there 20 trades a day getting rid of him?


Cap space is the only reason. And he is objectively a better player today than the kids you have at RW. If you are saying you’d rather give the minutes to those kids that’s understandable, but every GM in this league would take a veteran winger with Rakell’s resume over 98% of the kids in the league if they’re trying to win.
Apr. 7 at 1:22 p.m.
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Cap space is the only reason. And he is objectively a better player today than the kids you have at RW. If you are saying you’d rather give the minutes to those kids that’s understandable, but every GM in this league would take a veteran winger with Rakell’s resume over 98% of the kids in the league if they’re trying to win.


AZ RW are schmaltz, guenther, doan and carcone. Ill put rakell at this moment ahead of the kids but 2 things; rakell has 4 more years and guenther & doan and prolly but will over those years surpass rakell who will be 35yo at the end of contract. second this team is not a rakell away from competing for cup so yes develop the kids. sorry i know PITT wants/needs to shed cap but AZ has really no need for 30+ yo W for 4 years
Apr. 7 at 1:25 p.m.
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AZ RW are schmaltz, guenther, doan and carcone. Ill put rakell at this moment ahead of the kids but 2 things; rakell has 4 more years and guenther & doan and prolly but will over those years surpass rakell who will be 35yo at the end of contract. second this team is not a rakell away from competing for cup so yes develop the kids. sorry i know PITT wants/needs to shed cap but AZ has really no need for 30+ yo W for 4 years


I understand your point of view on this if it is to give ice time to the kids. It’s something I’d like to see the Pens do more of as we move forward. Now I had read that your ownership group wants to make a playoff push next year and I’d assume adding veterans is required. If I’m in your position I’d be using my cap space to get paid to take on contracts. If Rakell’s is too long so be it but I’d look for maybe some shorter term vets, maybe a Dman like Holl who Detroit will need to dump.
 
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