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Offer Sheeting Viability

Created by: Super_Randy
Team: 2024-25 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 18, 2024
Published: Apr. 18, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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My question is can these teams be able to afford these young players at the $$ of the offer sheets. (If it could would should it of been a 1yr deal instead of 2yr ?) ----- (Placed all 3 under the IR tab and left the 2LW slot open.)

I personally think Newhook is developing nicely as a C and I felt Dach could use the time on RW as he essentially has missed 2.5 seasons in his short career.

My vision was either Byfield or Lundell would play the open 2LW slot and if Mercer was acquired instead, I would try Mercer on the 1RW, Slaf to 2LW with Newhook at 2C and Dach at 2RW.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$900,000
2$1,225,000
2$6,400,000
2$6,400,000
2$6,400,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Byfield, Quinton$6,400,000
2025 1st round pick
2025 3rd round pick
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Lundell, Anton [RFA Rights]
FLA
    Same offer sheet $$ and term
    2.
    MTL
    1. Mercer, Dawson [RFA Rights]
    NJD
      Same offer sheet $$ and term
      Retained Salary Transactions
      DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
      2024
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      Logo of the SJS
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      Logo of the MTL
      Logo of the EDM
      Logo of the WSH
      2025
      Logo of the CGY
      Logo of the MTL
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      Logo of the VAN
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      Logo of the DET
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      2026
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      22$87,500,000$89,336,250$1,022,500$3,920,000-$1,836,250
      Left WingCentreRight Wing
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      $7,850,000$7,850,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 7
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $7,875,000$7,875,000
      C
      UFA - 6
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
      RW, LW
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $2,900,000$2,900,000
      C, LW
      RFA - 3
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $3,362,500$3,362,500
      C, RW
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $5,500,000$5,500,000
      RW, LW
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $4,450,000$4,450,000
      C
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $6,500,000$6,500,000
      RW, LW
      M-NTC, NMC
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $1,100,000$1,100,000
      LW, RW
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $1,700,000$1,700,000
      C
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $3,400,000$3,400,000
      RW, LW
      UFA - 1
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $4,875,000$4,875,000
      LD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $3,500,000$3,500,000
      RD
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $890,000$890,000
      G
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
      LD/RD
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $900,000$900,000
      RD
      RFA
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $3,150,000$3,150,000
      G
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $1,225,000$1,225,000
      LD/RD
      RFA
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $875,000$875,000
      RD
      RFA - 2
      ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $812,500$812,500
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1
      $6,400,000$6,400,000
      LW, C
      RFA
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $10,500,000$10,500,000
      G
      NMC
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $766,667$766,667
      RD
      UFA - 1
      $6,400,000$6,400,000
      C, LW
      RFA
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $1,400,000$1,400,000
      LD/RD
      RFA - 1
      $6,400,000$6,400,000
      RW, C
      RFA

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      Apr. 18 at 1:52 a.m.
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      Pretty easy for LAK and NJ to match. A bit more a pain in the butt for FLO
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      Apr. 18 at 1:54 a.m.
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      Yeah no chance LA lets Byfield walk for that, you're gonna have to be in the 11.5-12 million range for them to let him go.

      Mercer you could probably get for 2 million dollars more but anything less than 8.5 New Jersey probably matches

      Florida may let Lundell go for around that
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      Apr. 18 at 1:54 a.m.
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      Yeah. Kings match that with ease. I suspect Byfield will get 8X8 if that.
      Apr. 18 at 1:59 a.m.
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      ZERO percent chance the Habs offer sheet anyone.
      Apr. 18 at 2:28 a.m.
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      Pretty sure the last thing the Habs want to do is play a game of f*** around and find out, especially when they have several big name prospects due for a payday over the couple of years.
      Apr. 18 at 3:12 a.m.
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      Just to clarify on the off chance you were suggesting this, you wouldn't be able to do the offer sheets at the same time if the compensation overlaps and if you want to attempt it on 3 players the each team likely makes you wait the full week before confirming they're matching which increases the likelihood the other teams will come to terms with their player.

      Of course you could go with Doug Wilson's move from back in 2010. He offer sheeted Hjalmarsson for an amount more than Chicago would've been able to give him, then once Chicago spent the money on him they offered Niemi a contract Chicago could no longer afford since they'd spent the money on Hjalmarsson's deal.

      In this case something comparable would be offer sheeting Byfield to a pricy deal but not enough that they don't match, then signing Arvidsson or Matt Roy, or offer sheeting Lundell and using the space to sign Reinhart or Montour.

      Teams have gotten better at freeing up cap space though and I could see them dealing with going up to 10% over the cap in the summer and then giving up assets to another team (my Sharks are interested!) to free up that space rather than let you get away with it.
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      Apr. 18 at 3:13 a.m.
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      Only way to realistically offer sheet Mercer is 7.5-8 with term devils match literally anything under 7
      Apr. 18 at 12:12 p.m.
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      Offersheets aren't a thing. At least try...
      Apr. 19 at 8:51 p.m.
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      Quoting: jamnjon
      Just to clarify on the off chance you were suggesting this, you wouldn't be able to do the offer sheets at the same time if the compensation overlaps and if you want to attempt it on 3 players the each team likely makes you wait the full week before confirming they're matching which increases the likelihood the other teams will come to terms with their player.

      Of course you could go with Doug Wilson's move from back in 2010. He offer sheeted Hjalmarsson for an amount more than Chicago would've been able to give him, then once Chicago spent the money on him they offered Niemi a contract Chicago could no longer afford since they'd spent the money on Hjalmarsson's deal.

      In this case something comparable would be offer sheeting Byfield to a pricy deal but not enough that they don't match, then signing Arvidsson or Matt Roy, or offer sheeting Lundell and using the space to sign Reinhart or Montour.

      Teams have gotten better at freeing up cap space though and I could see them dealing with going up to 10% over the cap in the summer and then giving up assets to another team (my Sharks are interested!) to free up that space rather than let you get away with it.



      It was a 1 OS, but 3 players of interest. That is why I said same $ and term for contracts because you'd only OS one.
      Apr. 19 at 8:53 p.m.
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      Quoting: evelutions2
      Pretty sure the last thing the Habs want to do is play a game of f*** around and find out, especially when they have several big name prospects due for a payday over the couple of years.


      Not really. As jamnjon pointed out, you can OS players to slightly more $ then their local team might want to pay (but will), and then sign one of that same teams UFAs.
       
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