Kindly who was the last player traded for two 1st + it's fair value

Most experts picked the four playoff teams from the Atlantic in, TOR/BOS/TB/FLA. Buffalo seemed most likely to supplant one of the big four if it were to happen, followed by OTT having a slight edge on Detroit, followed by MTL. Reason being that the Wings are in a "stop-gap" part of the rebuild, having to overpay free agents due to Holland running the team into the ground.

You can have your opinion on them, and that's fine. Everyone has their thoughts on other teams. To say they aren't moving in the right direction is baseless though, considering what Yzerman inherited and what he has built.

INHERITED A TEAM: 17-49
FOLLOWING YEAR: 19-27
FOLLOWING YEAR: 32-40
FOLLOWING YEAR: 35-37
THIS YEAR: 41-32

Say what you want about the prospects, but it is undeniable they have quality future NHL players (albeit no guaranteed stars outside of ASP and possibly Buch). Would have been nice to not have the worst lottery luck, but I would still prefer Raymond to Laffy (when Detroit should have drafted 1 overall and it was rumored SY really wanted Stutzle).

- Danielson (200ft player C who even Bedard said was the toughest to play against)
- Kasper (200ft player C with mean streak and offensive upside in secondary capacity)

- Edvinsson / ASP / Wallinder / AL Johansson / Buium / ANT Johansson (only a fraction of the prospects on the back end. Not all will pan out, but considering this about half, statistics show at least several will be as advertised).

- Cossa / Augustine both developing very nicely with Cossa setting franchise records and getting better every day whereas Trey has already racked up the NCAA awards.

- Winger is the weakest aspect of the prospect pipeline, with Soderblom / Berggren / Mazur being the top three.

If the worst contract on the team is Holl / Chiarot, not many fans are too worried about the future lol

Brother, you're trying to have a logical conversation with a guy who is clearly trolling lol.

Easier to just tangle him in his own bull****. (Which is ridiculously easy with this guy)

To me I don't think ASP will be a star I do like Kasper and think he will be a good 2c in the future. Not high on Danielsson at all I know what Bedard said but that really doesn't give me any confidence I remember a time when Vancouver fans were claiming that cole cassels was the next best thing because McDavid said he was the best at shutting him down. While they have gotten better it's would have been harder that they did even worse with the team Steive Y Inheareded. I still think the team is a quite few key positions away from making any noise

Buddy why are you obsessed with my threads?

Then blues don’t trade him, Suzuki plus would be the price, I understand Habs not wanting to pay that but if they want Thomas they’d have to pay up.

And by Plus I mean Suszki plus another piece, he’d still be the main price coming back but it would be a 1 for 1

I like the education route and it was a rough day at work so nothing better to do while watching playoff hockey lol. If they are truly trolling they grow tired of logic. Coaching taught me how to deal with all different sorts.

(PS: Russians are the most difficult to deal with, Swedes are the easiest lol)

Buddy, why do your threads keep getting deleted?

That's fine if you don't think ASP will be a star, but it's very outlandish to say ASP won't be a good/great NHL player. A 1-2 punch of him and Seider on the right side looks fantastic.

I project Danielson higher than Kasper, but that is because of my coaching background and seeing what he does that doesn't get noticed on stat sheets. Could I be wrong, absolutely. If Danielson Kasper end up being 2-3C behind Larkin that is great. Unlike your comparison to Cole, no one is projecting them to be world beaters.

Yes they are several pieces away from making noise. That is evident by the Kane addition. He brought a spark and change in outlook for the team. The fact he CHOSE to come to Detroit thinking they were on the cusp would not have happened several years ago, nor prior to SY taking the helm. That is encouraging for the organization, and will likely lead to other FAs starting to consider Detroit as a destination as they did in the 90s/2000s.

The other aspect is the division. It is kind of difficult to crawl out of the cellar when Toronto runs rampant on the division in the season, TB damn-near had a dynasty, Florida is a modern day bully, and Boston broke Detroit's regular season win record. Throw in the young cores of BUF/OTT/MTL, every game is a battle. Yet, somehow Detroit was an empty net goal away from playing New York lol

Thomas does not start at all. Please do not encourage this sh**. Tomorrow we'll have 30 threads claiming a Blues fan said Thomas was available.

In what world is that Thomas dogsh** "above value"? Because it ain't any world in this galaxy.

If only these deals were possible.

How is this not a troll job when in your own words you say Savard fits in with Wings overpaid defense.

You destroy your own post, ding dong.

All of the above GMs just hang up the phone

The hell it is. Blues aren't trading Thomas. And if Suzuki is better than Thomas - why is Thomas the center on the first line in this fantasy here...

In the same line of thinking, how often do 24 year old 1C's on good contracts with term get traded? Before you say Jack Eichel, the situation is not even remotely close.

Everyone knows hes not available, if you dont like seeing people being traded id recommend not going on this site. Personally i enjoy seeing new trades for different players instead of the same 3 Parayko and Buch trades