I don’t argue with the fact that Rossi would be a better offensive option at the moment that what we currently have. I just think that adding him wouldn’t make Mtl a better team in the long stretch. You can’t win in the playof with 5-6 under 6 foot forward. If you look at the latest cup winner they all have size. That why i don’t think they will target players like Rossi.

Fair enough. and if MTL were to actually acquire Rossi this offseason, I'd 100% be of the mindset of "no more small players!!! We have enough now, no more!!" and advocate that MTL start looking to add more power forwards 100%.
BUT... size isn't everything, speaking of recent cup winners, Tampa won both their cups with guys like Gourde, Point, Johnson in their top 9. MTL having Caufield, Hutson, Rossi should be fine.

Yeah idk what that caliber of player would be that’s available tho. Maybe a centrepiece of acquiring a star?

Maybe for Zegras, but I don’t think id trade Guhle for Zegras 1 for 1 and no way Anaheim wants another LHD

If the Habs are committed to Mike Matheson, I do this. But I’d also insist we get Minnesota’s 1st round pick out of it as well. More than happy to package the Winnipeg 1st and other assets (if required) to get it done.

So the base for me would be: Guhle + 25 for Rossi + 13

I think it makes perfect sense. Minnesota gets their partner for Faber. Habs bet on offense, and could probably draft another D with the 13th pick to eventually replace Matheson.

Many do!

Nice to see the delusion is still strong in Montreal.

You might not like it but that would be the ask. Guhle is a first pairing defenseman with elite defensive skill. There nothing delusional about asking for Boldy. What is delusional is to think that you could get a top pairing defenseman for midget forward.

If you asked that you should be ridiculed to the fullest extent. Boldy is far more valuable than Guhle.

How Boldy is more Valuable? Because he have more point?
This is the stupidest thing that is recurrent here. Point, point , point like that was the only thing that is valuable in game of hockey. Guhle is a elite defender. He is has valuable if not more to Mtl than Boldy would be. Because your feeling is hurt donlt change anything about that. You can keep complaining like a little spoil brat, it doesn’t change the fact that Mtl would ask for Boldy in a Guhle trade. Only delusional Min fan think a midget get you a first pairing defenseman. You clearly haven’t not freaking idea about the price to acquire a top pairing defenseman. Columbus had to gave up Johansen who was extremely promising for Seth Jones, Colorado gave Byram for
Mitteltsatd. Both of these players where centerman.
Boldy is a winger. Less valuable position in hockey
Delusional people won’t stop making me laugh around here.
You should put your feeling aside and use your brain.

Look at all this garbage homerism and oh goody, a strawman argument. If you were to poll 100 random fans, the 90 that are not Montreal fans would take Boldy.

Guhle is not on the level that Jones was at the time of trade. Mittelstadt is much closer to Rossi, so nice comparison there silly homer.

Boldy is 100% better to anyone but clown Montreal fans.

Yeah your right about Jones, in fact Guhle have had better stats then jones in is third season. Guhle average 2 more min, playing tougher opposition. Can denied that fact ill gave you that. In which reality you live, Rossi on the same level as Mittelstadt and im the homer. You didn’t help your case with such buffoonery. Boldy play the least valuable position in hockey. As good as he is he still just a winger. Guhle will face top opposition night in night out. This is much more valuable than what ever argument you could try. Keep complaining like a little spoil brat, that wonlt change anything. If Minnesota call for Guhle, thats what they ask for. Acquiring top pair defenseman is costly. No midget middle six forward is enough to entertain trade talk.

Keep crying. Good grief. Montreal fans are insufferable.

You are the one acting like a baby. You are the one that came aggressively with a emotional comment. I am not the one who is delusional, i just told what was obvious but you can’t accept that this would be what Mtl will ask for Guhle. That a very simple concept to assimilate but for a obscure reason you want to go on a rampage about Guhle not being worth Boldy. Who care about that, what is important is that MTL value Guhle greatly and they won’t
Move him to for the sake of making some random clown on cap friendly happy because they sell him for a midget middle six winger.

1. Boldy is a delusional asking price.
2. I don’t care about adding Guhle whatsoever. No need to get your panties in a wad over it. I don’t want him.
3. Montreal fans are notorious for extremely overvaluing their players, like you are doing here.
4. You are everything you call me.

Mtl fan are overating their player until the trade deadline where they where pin point. Keep it up with your bull**** argumet.
Asking for Boldy is not delusional one second. First pairing defenseman = top line player. Plain and simple. But that concept seem to hard to understand you keep pushing for that midget forward to acquire a top pair defenseman. How this not delusional.
Minn fan are still hoping for Miracle on ice and get great you g defenseman for a midget who isn’t a game changer.

‘’ 4. ´´you are everything you call me’’ what next you will pull out my father is stronger than your. How old are you? You don’t understand a simple concept that Mtl aren’t shopping Guhle. If Minnesota call and ask for Guhle Hugues will ask for Boldy. Nothing less, and Rossi and all the other pieces you can offer have absolutely no value for Mtl. This is pretty simple to understand. Who care about how you feeling about Guhle or how you love Boldy. But for some reason your to emotionally evolve the think straight and just understand that Mtl are in the driver seat and don’t have to settle for a midget

Look at you. Still going. Still seething with rage.

My favorite part is you think I’m advocating to trade Rossi. I have not said one thing about Rossi being equal to Guhle. I’ve simply laughed that you think Guhle = Boldy. It’s like if Montreal asked for Middleton and I said the only acceptable trade would be Caufield because Middleton played top pairing this year. Just laughable.

You could ask for Caufield in a Middleton trade. I mean if Guerin think Middleton value for Minnesota is that much. He have the right to do so. And yes Guhle = Boldy. First pairing defenseman have much more value than winger. Not even debatable, unless you got a generational talent on the wing, first pairing defenseman will always hold more value. And how can Guhle = Boldy when there not even playing the same position? How stupid is that take. Boldy is just the only players of interest to fill a position of need on Mtl. Unless expectation are met in a trade Guhle isn’t moving. That pretty simple. Guhle = Boldy plain in simple.
Again first pair defenseman are more valuable than winger.
You can think that it’s funny all you want that don’t change anything, the on’y players that can land you Guhle is Boldy.

1st pairing on Montreal doesn’t mean as much as 1st pairing on other teams. You know that, right? I mean, Rossi played 1C for a huge chunk of this season. Should he carry the same value as a 1C? If not, your whole argument just caved in on itself.

Guhle have rank himself among the top 50 defenseman in many defensive categories. There 2 top pair defenseman by team so that mean 60. Rossi might played 1c but he doesn’t rank in any category near the top 30 centerman and not even in the top 60. Terrible take dude just simole terrible

Yeah? What are those?

Here's what I've found:

Guhle 5v5 (min 300 minutes played)
CA/60: 64.61 (#202 of dmen)
SA/60: 29.4 (#132)
GA/60: 2.88 (#188)
xGA/60: 2.68 (t-#159)
SCA/60: 30.67 (#214)

Let's see these statistics you have.