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Team: 2024-25 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: May 5, 2024
Published: May 5, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
The penguins brew the youth in WBS, have the option to start bringing it up if players falter.
They get a 1LW, create a 3rd line that can score, rebuild their defense to actually play defense and PK, and finally create a 4th line with a bit more offensive pop.

In net they got 3 prospects behind Ned. One of them will figure it out.

It is possible to turn this team into a real contender again. They have to balance the cap out more to make that happen and be willing to trust their youth.
They can't hold 2 1RD, it doesn't work. They need 2 RD who can PK, without killing Letang.
This also opens up the cap space they need to fix the 3rd pairing and forward group.
With cap left over if they want a bigger name 2RD. But I think this defense is solid.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$950,000
3$950,000
3$950,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$900,000
2$900,000
2$900,000
3$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,500,000
4$3,000,000
4$3,000,000
7$6,500,000
2$5,000,000
Trades
1.
PIT
  1. Minten, Fraser
  2. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
Pens get a 1st and a decent level prospect.
TOR
  1. Karlsson, Erik
Additional Details:
TOR fans, after that BOS series you have no room to complain. Rielly is not a capable 1st pairing guy to lead an offense. 17 shots in 7 games, 7 missed. only 9 in 5v5 play 6 of which were misses. ALL that room as BOS collapsed on their goaltender when TOR had the zone. Def could do NOTHING with it. BOS clogged up the middle and it just killed your offense because the blueline is F inept. You need a real threat from the blueline.
You don't have. It's not available in FA. No one is going to give it to you for nothing so that's an end of conversation. You can blame marner all day, you lost because of your bluelines inability to take advantage of what BOS gave you.
2.
PIT
  1. Bahl, Kevin
  2. 2024 1st round pick (NJD)
Additional Details:
NJ wants both a coach and a goalie.... they get both.
Before you say, can't... pens gave BUF a 3rd for Bylsma in 2015.
Pretty sure it's possible.
Penguins get a 3LD and a draft pick. They also rid themselves of paying Sullivan to not coach. Be it from home or behind the bench!
NJD
  1. Jarry, Tristan
Additional Details:
Sullivan
3.
PIT
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (DAL)
NSH
  1. Smith, Reilly
4.
PIT
  1. Välimäki, Juuso [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
change of scene for both
ARI
  1. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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Logo of the NYR
2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$87,500,000$78,232,676$0$57,500$9,267,324
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Teräväinen, Teuvo
$6,500,000$6,500,000
LW, RW
UFA
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Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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Rust, Bryan
$5,125,000$5,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
Bunting, Michael
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Malkin, Evgeni
$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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Rakell, Rickard
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
O'Connor, Drew
$925,000$925,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
Waivers ExemptMinten, Fraser
$816,667$816,667
C, LW
RFA - 3
Toffoli, Tyler
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
UFA
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
Poulin, Samuel
$775,000$775,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
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Eller, Lars
$2,450,000$2,450,000
C
UFA - 1
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Acciari, Noel
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
Bemström, Emil
$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Pettersson, Marcus
$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
Letang, Kris
$6,100,000$6,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
Nedeljkovic, Alex
$2,500,000$2,500,000
G
UFA
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
Graves, Ryan
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
Chatfield, Jalen
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
Waivers ExemptBlomqvist, Joel
$886,667$886,667 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
Bahl, Kevin
$1,050,000$1,050,000
LD
RFA - 1
Carrier, Alexandre
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
UFA
Välimäki, Juuso
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
RFA
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
Waivers ExemptSt. Ivany, Jack
$900,000$900,000
RD
RFA
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
Nieto, Matt
$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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May 5 at 7:24 a.m.
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Rules changed since 2015...
May 5 at 7:25 a.m.
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Tristan Jarry does not yield a top 10 draft pick. The devils could go after Linus Ullmark and give up less. There’s an argument they could go after Juuse Saros and give up less. I’m not opposed to Tristan Jarry, but not at that price. Even including Mike Sullivan as coach doesn’t make up for this either.
May 5 at 7:45 a.m.
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
Rules changed since 2015...


no they didn't. coaches are not part of the CBA.
The CBA is between the NHL and the players association. Has nothing to do with coaches.
May 5 at 7:49 a.m.
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no they didn't. coaches are not part of the CBA.
The CBA is between the NHL and the players association. Has nothing to do with coaches.


https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nhl/nhl-ends-draft-pick-compensation-for-signing-coaches-execs


"The league had a one-year trial run that allowed either a second- or third-round pick to be given as compensation for coaches and executives under contract even if they had been fired."
May 5 at 7:51 a.m.
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Leafs don’t want Karlson wouldn’t take him for free
May 5 at 7:52 a.m.
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Quoting: NJTM
Tristan Jarry does not yield a top 10 draft pick. The devils could go after Linus Ullmark and give up less. There’s an argument they could go after Juuse Saros and give up less. I’m not opposed to Tristan Jarry, but not at that price. Even including Mike Sullivan as coach doesn’t make up for this either.


as it stands right now they are picking 10. Does not mean that is the care the order can change if teams jump up when the lottery happens.
You also don't have a 2nd as it is SJS now. So you are kind of up the creek on it.
It's clear NJ wants him. So as much as you don't.... oh well.
May 5 at 7:55 a.m.
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nhl/nhl-ends-draft-pick-compensation-for-signing-coaches-execs


"The league had a one-year trial run that allowed either a second- or third-round pick to be given as compensation for coaches and executives under contract even if they had been fired."


FFS if you are going to post links at least read them and comprehend them. It says it in like the 1st paragraph.
" The NHL eliminated its policy Tuesday that allowed teams to seek compensation when other franchises hired away a coach or executive under contract."

This is for when team sign an assistant to promote them to head coach...... Has F all to do with trades.
May 5 at 7:59 a.m.
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Leafs don’t want Karlson wouldn’t take him for free


sure thing there GM. Glad you know you're in their front office.

good lucking finding a legit 1RD who fills their needs. There are none in FA, and no one who has one is going to trade it to you. Other than the 1 team in the whole league who has 2 of them.
So you don't have too many choices now do you.
May 5 at 8:01 a.m.
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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck
FFS if you are going to post links at least read them and comprehend them. It says it in like the 1st paragraph.
" The NHL eliminated its policy Tuesday that allowed teams to seek compensation when other franchises hired away a coach or executive under contract."

This is for when team sign an assistant to promote them to head coach...... Has F all to do with trades.


You are the one who referenced the Bylsma trade, which this one referenced. If you wanted one for a coach, you'd have to go back to 1987 for Michel Bergeron, but there has to be a reason that not a single instance like this has happened in nearly 40 years
May 5 at 8:04 a.m.
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You are the one who referenced the Bylsma trade, which this one referenced. If you wanted one for a coach, you'd have to go back to 1987 for Michel Bergeron, but there has to be a reason that not a single instance like this has happened in nearly 40 years


yeah there is a reason, most teams just fire the damn guy and don't give a rats ass.
But the penguins signed him to a 5 mil per contract and don't want to pay it.
It's a lot different when you aren't one of the most expensive coaches in the whole league.
Most likely a guy getting canned on one team usually isn't in high demand for another. But that's not the case with Sully for some reason.
May 5 at 8:07 a.m.
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yeah there is a reason, most teams just fire the damn guy and don't give a rats ass.
But the penguins signed him to a 5 mil per contract and don't want to pay it.
It's a lot different when you aren't one of the most expensive coaches in the whole league.
Most likely a guy getting canned on one team usually isn't in high demand for another. But that's not the case with Sully for some reason.


You don't seem to be positioning the Pens in a way the Devils should remotely be giving up the cost you seek. If anything the Penguins would get the full cost off their books as they cam require the Devils to pay the full salary.
May 5 at 8:12 a.m.
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Tristan Jarry does not yield a top 10 draft pick. The devils could go after Linus Ullmark and give up less. There’s an argument they could go after Juuse Saros and give up less. I’m not opposed to Tristan Jarry, but not at that price. Even including Mike Sullivan as coach doesn’t make up for this either.


if you really think you can get saros or ullmark for less than a 1st and Kevin bahl who's nothing great at all you are dreaming. might be too much for jarry tho.


I don't think this is the way to go honestly. the defensive core looks worse then with EK65 on it. graves is still there and playing top 4. you have 9 mil left of cap space not sure how this helps the team compete.
May 5 at 8:13 a.m.
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
You don't seem to be positioning the Pens in a way the Devils should remotely be giving up the cost you seek. If anything the Penguins would get the full cost off their books as they cam require the Devils to pay the full salary.


you would think that's the way things work..... but it isn't.
especially when it's a power game between Dubas and Sully.
We will want a return.
May 5 at 8:21 a.m.
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Quoting: LuckyMoneyPuck
as it stands right now they are picking 10. Does not mean that is the care the order can change if teams jump up when the lottery happens.
You also don't have a 2nd as it is SJS now. So you are kind of up the creek on it.
It's clear NJ wants him. So as much as you don't.... oh well.


The price you seek for the package you’re offering is simply outrageous. The devils don’t have a second round pick, why on earth would they move out of the first round completely for a .903 goaltender and a head coach without addressing any other issues? Not to mention you’ve taken the 3rd pairing left defenseman, that has to be replaced too.
May 5 at 8:29 a.m.
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The price you seek for the package you’re offering is simply outrageous. The devils don’t have a second round pick, why on earth would they move out of the first round completely for a .903 goaltender and a head coach without addressing any other issues? Not to mention you’ve taken the 3rd pairing left defenseman, that has to be replaced too.


There is nothing outrageous about any of it. I jarry is a 2nd and Bahl, which is a fair price. you upgrade the 2nd to a 1st for getting Sully, who NJ wants.
You over here worried about 3LD as if there isn't FA.
And that goalie is a 2x all star who played on a defense without a 3rd pairing last year.
May 5 at 8:34 a.m.
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Edited May 5 at 9:05 a.m.
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There is nothing outrageous about any of it. I jarry is a 2nd and Bahl, which is a fair price. you upgrade the 2nd to a 1st for getting Sully, who NJ wants.
You over here worried about 3LD as if there isn't FA.
And that goalie is a 2x all star who played on a defense without a 3rd pairing last year.


If the devils can get Linus Ullmark for the 2025 NJD first round pick (which they can), why would they do this? Linus Ullmark is a former vezina trophy winner. This proposed trade is completely ridiculous once you realize a better goaltender is available at a better price.
May 5 at 10:08 a.m.
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if you really think you can get saros or ullmark for less than a 1st and Kevin bahl who's nothing great at all you are dreaming. might be too much for jarry tho.


I don't think this is the way to go honestly. the defensive core looks worse then with EK65 on it. graves is still there and playing top 4. you have 9 mil left of cap space not sure how this helps the team compete.


B's fans want a 2025 1st and in some cases a 3rd added. Scour through ALL of the treads and you will see we even are applauding each others base. No one said less just that. Ullmark aint worthy of a top 10 pick OA (they said so themselves), no way Jarry is!
May 5 at 11:32 a.m.
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None of those teams accept nor should we be moving EK.
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May 5 at 11:35 a.m.
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If a team wanted to pay that for Karlsson now, they would have already paid it for Karlsson when the sharks moved him.

Instead the sharks got a single 1st and a ton of cap dumps
May 6 at 6:20 a.m.
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B's fans want a 2025 1st and in some cases a 3rd added. Scour through ALL of the treads and you will see we even are applauding each others base. No one said less just that. Ullmark aint worthy of a top 10 pick OA (they said so themselves), no way Jarry is!


a 3rd is already more valuable than bahl. and I said already it was a tad too much for jarry...

so you end up paying 1st + 3rd (exactly what I thought the price would be)
May 6 at 7:43 a.m.
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a 3rd is already more valuable than bahl. and I said already it was a tad too much for jarry...

so you end up paying 1st + 3rd (exactly what I thought the price would be)


2025 1st is not the same as the top 10 pick you’re asking for
May 6 at 9:48 a.m.
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2025 1st is not the same as the top 10 pick you’re asking for


not like the 2025 1st will be the 31st pick lol probably around 15th/16th. not a huge difference in particular next draft being much deeper apparently.
May 6 at 10:11 a.m.
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a 3rd is already more valuable than bahl. and I said already it was a tad too much for jarry...

so you end up paying 1st + 3rd (exactly what I thought the price would be)


Yes but still not this year's 1st! Neither one of these G is going to get that.
 
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