Easy pass from Detroit.

Exactly no pool party in Detroit.

Damn bro, thanks for your ECHL stud and bust for Maatta and a 5th.

I don't know what's more awful the fact that you think the penguins are going to retain 5 mil on EK.
Or that DET fans actually think Maatta is some prize piece and that the penguins would actually want him back.

Nothing in that return screams “prize piece” nor are the wings looking for a huge or even good return. A simple 4th will suffice as he has a solid rental contract and is a good bottom pair guy with championship experience.

A LHD is the very last thing Detroit needs, and pool party is what he is.

two guys who don't effect the cap in any way that could be send down to the AHL and are no issue at all, is exactly what Maatta is worth. He's a statue who hasn't been able to skate in years. He's slow as hell. No playoff team is renting that. Penguins booted him for it years ago. You are lucky anyone even takes that bad cap hit off your hands.

The nerve of you to complain about it is truly funny. As if he's not a cap dump.
Do you lake the situational awareness to realize the penguins would never bring him back? Or any other team for that matter?

Bell wouldn’t make the Griffins…
Pool party probably wants to go back to Europe…

Maata as a 5-7 D for one season at 3M is not an issue. Just because Pitt wasn’t a fit doesn’t mean other teams wouldn’t take a flyer on him for no cost. Degrade him all you want, he is an actual NHL D. Don’t be surprised if he gets moved for a mid-low pick.

The nerve of me huh? lol easy slugger. All I did was say this isn’t the return, or most Wing fans would prefer to keep him (due to Holl/Petry being immovable). He is also only one season removed from helping Detroit maximize value for Hronek.

And to answer your question, no it’s not a *lack* of situational awareness about returning to the Pens. I didn’t propose the trade, nor did I ever state he would be a good fit/an answer/etc.

Yeah, you piss and moan about Maatta every chance you get lol.

Don't be so bitter, you know it's true.

He's got good analytics, and in case you haven't figured it out yet, that's all your dip**** GM looks for lol.

yeah I don't think so.
but that's a funny reply.

Dubas is literally the Messiah of the advanced stat community lol.

Maatta is a solid 3rd pair LHD that will give you about 20 points while being a +/- +10 or above. He's not a statue or a pylon--as evident by the +/- rating. The problem with him is that 3M is expensive for 3rd pair and in Detroit he was replaced by a 1st round pick (#6) that graduated to the NHL--making that 3M really expensive for a healthy scratch. Detroit has a cap crunch coming from having to give Seider and Raymond their 2nd contracts. I don't see the Pens or any other Eastern Conference team as being the trading partners. But Detroit isn't going to want 2 AHL'ers they are going to want a draft pick back (likely late 4th). I could also see them bundling Maatta as part of a larger trade that involved a prospect (or two) and a draft pick for a top 6 winger.

but saying how dare you complain about giving away a 3rd pair NHL d-man for 2 AHL'ers....uh, yeah everyone should point that out.

he's a pure cap dump. DET would move him for FC at this point. Who are you kidding.
So 2 ahl'ers are nothing.

Trying to build up Maatta is really funny. It's almost like you are trying to tell someone who watched him pay for years that he's got faster as he's got older! That's some magic trick.
He's slow as hell.

yawn...we you have nothing you trying not to quote anything meaningful....I am certain who doesn't talk to you as well.

yeah sure thing, nothing.... just years of seeing him being an awful defenseman.
but go on.....
you are so mad everyone won't think your 3 mil scratch of a defenseman is any good.... think about that.

Wings for sure pass on that. Simpler trade like Maatta for a 4th will do fine