Jarnkrok the corner guy and net presence on the topline, lol. I hope the leafs wakeup and send this guy packing in the off-season.

Spare parts sure as f*** aren't getting you Cirelli quality not quantity. This is a pile of 💩 offer. A massively over paid forth liner, an RFA 4th liner. From 1998 - 2017 2 guys never played in the NHL another 3 played less than 100 games including a guy who played exactly 1, and 8 guys who played<200 NHL games.so, 60% of 23OA picks played less than 200 NHL FAMES. you're offer easily gets beat by 10+ teams if he's available. This is an utterly insulting offer that gets Trelivings number blocked for wasting time.

Lightning are in cap hell. That McDonagh trade is gonna hurt. Although Cirelli's no trade clause only kicks in, in July 2025, if you trade him somewhere else, where he does not want to go, it looks really poor on the organization. The optics are terrible if you get a greater return from Utah or San Jose. If you push Cirelli's 6.25m cap on to Toronto, hometown boy returns & A. Leafs can't sign Stamkos. B. The lightning can.

Stamkos is not signing for 3m. (And the three players I see Tampa re-signing are, Stamkos, Duclair and Fleury)

Unless the lightning retain around 750,000 to make Cirelli a 5.5m dollar player, Cirelli is an overpaid 2C/3C.
(Point as 1c, Nicholas as 2c, Kämpf as 3c, Glendenning as 4c)

it ain't pretty, but defensively focused teams, win cups, which is why Mcdonagh is back.

Imagine either Stamkos with Leafs or Cirelli with leafs. (If my captain defected to the leafs I'd be pissed.)

We're selling futures for Marner, not the roster.

Futures ain't getting you Marner. Toronto wants to win now. Marner can then go to the Blues. Berube is higher on Binnington than Saros anyways.

Futures can go elsewhere for the goalie they want. If that's the case, looks like Marner is heading to STL then.

So what so they give a 2c away for a God awful deal ? seriously you don't think another team completely offer a way better package your either completely clueless or a complete clown troll. They aren't giving him away for a pile of **** optics be f***ING damned.. Duclair and Fluery are gone the left side is Hedman, Sergachev, McDonagh, Lilleberg. Stamkos isn't signing to play in the fishbowl that is Toronto. It's never going to happen . Serious question ? If he signs in Toronto would he be able to go to a park with his kids or a restaurant with.hus wife or the mall with his family and not be bothered by fans hounding for selfies and autographs? If the answer is no that's his answer to Toronto

Stamkos will almost certainly not sign for 3m to stay in Tampa. Where he wants to go, I have no idea. Maybe he wants to bring the cup to his hometown. I am not his agent nor can I read Stammer's mind.

All I can say is that Tampa has 5m cap. They can't even sign a pile of **** if they wanted to at the moment. Maybe a grain of **** only instead. (A 7D and scraps off the waiver wire is what y'all can afford, and you still haven't replaced Stamkos.)

Looking forward to a fringe play off team.

Let us see what Trotz is willing to give up.

(Am thinking either Nashville or St. Louis for Marner.)

And I am saying without Stammer you'll be a fringe play-off team. Looking forward to 40 less goals, being scored by the Lightning.

Tampa's Current Top-6
(Hagel-Point-Kucherov)
(Jeannot-Cirelli-Eyssimont)

You my dear person, are delusional if you think this is a guaranteed play-off bound team, with that as your top six.

Courtesy of #Panthersbeatlightning

Not saying someone doesn't get traded but it's for wayyyyy better than the garbage you're proposing as a return

Who would you like that you can actually sign, and that the other team wants to give up for an over-paid Cirelli. He is good but making too much. Propose two alternative options.

if Stamkos signs for 7m and Hedman does to. You are not signing 3 players including a 2c counterman with a 5m budget.

1) Stamkos comes in around 5.5-6 max could he get more on the open Market yes will he demand it from TB NO. .
Steven Stamkos from his exit interview "Kuuch is massively underpaid @9.5 Heddy making less than 8 is massively underpaid Pointer at 9.5 it's the players wanting to be here and knowing what it takes to win it's the culture here." It's s not just about me anymore I have a young family with roots planted here and it's my priority to stay as I've said many times." What he didn't say in the first quote was he started that culture. What about that makes you think the money is a priority?
Also you don't think maybe Cernak not Cirelli gets moved or if the right packe is offered a Sergachev. . Is Toronto the only team they could trade Cirelli too. This is a complete garbage return that get Brad Treliving laughed at and hung up on if he were a big enough douche to make that pathetic an offer!!!

Of course I did, but both Cernak and Sergachev have NTC after July 1, 2024, and I don't see this getting solved before then.

How many years are you giving Stammer at 5.75AAV? (Because on open market he is easily making 3m more AAV)

(Anywho, I would start looking at your 3c center options, so you can move Nicholas Paul up to your 2c and trade Cirelli.)

I compiled a list of the options for players under 3.25m as a 3c (excluding Kämpf ofc)

This is what the Lightning can afford:

1. Sharangovich from the Flames at 3.1m
2. Ryan Mcleod from Oilers at 2.1m
3. Pius Suter from Canucks at 1.6m
4. Nicolas Roy from Golden Knights at 3m
5. Casey Cizikas from Islanders at 2.5m
6. Scott Laughton from Flyers at 3m
7. Lars Eller from Penguins 2.45m
8. Nic Dowd from Capitals 1.3m
9. Connor Geekie from Bruins 2m
10. Ridley Greig from Senators at 900k

Ps. Propose a trade for what you would like for Cirelli.

Here are several proposed trades by other wayyyy better than the pile of 💩 you offered.
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/5155657
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/5161148
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/5161114
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/5161083
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/5160823

Or TB can do something like this and not trade anyone.
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/5161631

Be my guest. Two of them are 404 errors, unable to open link. Two of the buffalo offers are poor on a similar level, but if you prefer prospects over players then, fine. And the very first one is an absolute over pay for Cirelli and I doubt it'll happen.

Keep telling yourself all you need to feel better about your idiocy

Instead of insulting. Actually discuss. You do not like something. Say what you do not like about it. Attacking another person does not get you anywhere in life.
Call my moves idiotic fine. Say that Cirelli is worth more fine. I disagree. I am lower on Cirelli than most, I hold true to my opinion, and if he get's over 65 points next year, I am happy to eat my words. Cirelli has never broken the 50 point mark in his career and in my mind he is very awesome 3C. (If it were liljegren instead of Gregor, maybe the Bolts would have more of an interest idk)

It's a bunch of garbage for a top quality player pretty easy to see what the problem is. He's gotten Selke votes every year of his career and has fallen between 4-9 in the voting. The narrative he's a 3C is horse💩. Kampf is a massively overpaid 4C gregor is a 16 draft guy who at best is a 4th liner healthy scratch dude. The 23OA pick is at best historically a lottery ticket from 1998-2017 1 never played an NHL game. 3 more played less than 100.8 more less than 200 and several who played more were 4th liners 3rd pairing/ healthy scratch caliber guys Mark Pysyk for example. And you want a 4th liner and 2- 7ths on top of Cirelli . Complete, utter and total trash for TB.

Tampa never does that

Clearly not courtesy of #canadiensbeatlightning. So since TB joined the league Montreal and all Canadian teams combined 1 Cup TB 3 Hopefully you've enjoyed the loosing.

Losing*

The grammar police are out over a typo .LOSER!!!!!! YOU KNOW YOUVE COMPLETELY LIST THE ARGUMENT IF YOUR ONLY GO TO IS POINTING OUT A TYPO!!! LOSER!!!?