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8 year playoff drought

Created by: ObiWanSpicoli
Team: 2024-25 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: May 23, 2024
Published: May 23, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$8,250,000
8$9,100,000
2$925,000
1$1,050,000
2$1,242,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,750,000
3$6,250,000
2$1,250,000
4$4,250,000
Trades
1.
DET
  1. Gibson, John ($1,920,000 retained)
  2. 2024 6th round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Ali, Brennan [Reserve List]
  2. Husso, Ville
  3. 2024 5th round pick (DET)
2.
3.
DET
  1. 2025 4th round pick (WPG)
Buyouts
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2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$87,700,000$87,543,806$0$1,850,000$156,194
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
LW, RW
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UFA - 3
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NTC
UFA - 7
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$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW, LW
RFA
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$886,667$886,667 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
C
RFA - 3
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$5,100,000$5,100,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
RW
UFA
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LW, C
UFA - 4
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW, LW
UFA
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
UFA
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$1,599,999$1,599,999
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
RW, LW
RFA
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$1,242,000$1,242,000
C
RFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$9,100,000$9,100,000
RD
RFA
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$4,480,000$4,480,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$4,250,000$4,250,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$900,000$900,000
G
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$2,343,750$2,343,750
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LD
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May 23 at 4:33 p.m.
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Kane isn’t getting that rate and that term in Detroit
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May 23 at 4:36 p.m.
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Absolutely zero reason for Anaheim to even think about that offer.
May 23 at 4:37 p.m.
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So Anaheim is just going to hand iver gibson and retain and take Husso just to be nice?
May 23 at 4:38 p.m.
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Why would Anaheim bother with that? We take the worse goalie, retain the better goalie down, and do it for no payment.
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May 23 at 4:47 p.m.
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sharks maybe take fabbri but for FC, no reason to pay for him
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May 23 at 4:49 p.m.
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It’s the NHL, not Make a Wish

Anaheim isn’t even coming close to touching that

Shoot, the GM’s may not even be friends after that one
May 23 at 4:56 p.m.
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Now comes the part where Anaheim fans ignore that Husso’s SV% is higher than Gibson’s over the last two seasons lol.
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May 24 at 10:06 p.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
It’s the NHL, not Make a Wish

Anaheim isn’t even coming close to touching that

Shoot, the GM’s may not even be friends after that one


Gibson doesn't want to be in Anaheim anymore and his 6.4 will be hard to reconcile when Dostal gets extended next year and is the clear 1a over a guy with little motivation to be there.

Detroit could sweaten it more with Berggren but Anaheim retains 40-50%.
May 24 at 10:09 p.m.
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Kane isn’t getting that rate and that term in Detroit


Rolled the dice. What do you think Yzermans hard limits are and what do you think he gets offered elsewhere?
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May 24 at 10:14 p.m.
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So Anaheim is just going to hand iver gibson and retain and take Husso just to be nice?


What's your idea of a return for Gibson?
May 24 at 11:14 p.m.
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Gibson doesn't want to be in Anaheim anymore and his 6.4 will be hard to reconcile when Dostal gets extended next year and is the clear 1a over a guy with little motivation to be there.

Detroit could sweaten it more with Berggren but Anaheim retains 40-50%.


Where on earth did you get that bs from? Gibby doesn’t want to be here laugh laugh that’s funny
May 24 at 11:21 p.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Where on earth did you get that bs from? Gibby doesn’t want to be here laugh laugh that’s funny


Frank Seravalli and Elliot Friedman have both reported it. You know, reputable sources. What echo chamber are you getting your BS from?
May 28 at 2:07 a.m.
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Quoting: ObiWanSpicoli
Rolled the dice. What do you think Yzermans hard limits are and what do you think he gets offered elsewhere?


I think Yzerman offers 1 year at 4-4.5. Maybe two years at 4 or less. Look, Stevie played hardball with Larkin and Debrincat on term, I think some of the confusing UFA signings have been related to asks on term. This team has a boat load of prospects that should be pushing for jobs, and Stevie seems to be protecting other assets to make sure he can push when those guys are ready.

As far as other teams interested in Kane, I believe Dallas, Boston and Buffalo were in on him late in the process this year. All the media seems to want him to go back to Chicago, but that ship seems to have sailed. I’m not sure any of those teams give that guy three years though.
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May 28 at 4:04 p.m.
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I think Yzerman offers 1 year at 4-4.5. Maybe two years at 4 or less. Look, Stevie played hardball with Larkin and Debrincat on term, I think some of the confusing UFA signings have been related to asks on term. This team has a boat load of prospects that should be pushing for jobs, and Stevie seems to be protecting other assets to make sure he can push when those guys are ready.

As far as other teams interested in Kane, I believe Dallas, Boston and Buffalo were in on him late in the process this year. All the media seems to want him to go back to Chicago, but that ship seems to have sailed. I’m not sure any of those teams give that guy three years though.


The wings will be a cap team from here on out, so, ideally he signs a 1 year so Yzerman can take advantage of the 35+ performance bonus cap overage allowance. You could easily pay him the 6.25 with 2 mil in performance bonus making it a 4.25 cap hit. I just don't think Showtime goes for that, and I don't blame him. He's still a ppg player with absolutely elite parts to his game and he wants term and will get more than 4/year.

Look at Pavelski for example. He signed a 3x7 with Dallas just before turning 35 and coming off a 64 point in 75 game season and a career average of about .8 points/game. He signed a 1 year, 6 mil (500k perf bonus) after that and then a 1 year, 5.5 (2 mil perf bonus) last off season. The 6 mil contract was after an 81 point season at age 38 (the guy is ridiculous).

Now, obviously Joe Pavelski is a different style of player than Patrick Kane but the numbers should arguably be very similar. 47p in 50 games last season immediately after taking a die-grinder to the hip bone. He's 35 now, so approximately 7 mos older than Pavelski was when he signed for 3 years but he also has 523 more points than Joe did.
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