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trade with Colorado....Not Duchene

Created by: cnb17
Initial Creation Date: Aug 9, 2017
Published: Aug 9, 2017 at 12:32 pm
Team: 2017-18 Pittsburgh Penguins
Team Explanation
I feel that Colorado is another team that's slightly heavy on centers (Mckinnon, Duchene, Soderberg, Wilson, Colborne) and I know trading and "old" guy for a prospect usually doesn't happen but the Avs are weak on the wings and Hornqvist can help with that as he still has plenty of skill. And he's now on the Pens 2nd or 3rd lines which to me is a waste. Jost has the potential of being an elite center but he's still a risk given his age and inexperience. But it's a cheap gamble for the Pens that could pay off big in the end.
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Cullen, Matt1$1,200,000
Vanek, Thomas1$2,800,000
Trades
PIT
  1. Jost, Tyson
COL
  1. Hörnqvist, Patric
  2. 2018 3rd round pick (PIT)
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Carl Hagelin: $250,000 (6%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2018
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2019
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
2020
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
PIT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$75,000,000$70,005,833$50,000$1,545,000$4,994,167

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
Guentzel, Jake
$734,167
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Crosby, Sidney
$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 8
Sheary, Conor
$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Vanek, Thomas
$2,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Malkin, Evgeni
$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Kessel, Phil
$6,800,000
RW
NMC NTC
UFA - 5
Hagelin, Carl
$1,875,000
LW
UFA - 2
Jost, Tyson
$885,833
C, LW, RW
RFA - 3
Rust, Bryan
$640,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Reaves, Ryan
$1,125,000
RW
UFA - 1
Cullen, Matt
$1,200,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Kühnhackl, Tom
$625,000
RW
UFA - 1
Rowney, Carter
$612,500
C, RW
UFA - 1
Archibald, Josh
$675,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Dumoulin, Brian
$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 6
Letang, Kris
$7,250,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 5
Murray, Matt
$3,750,000
G
RFA - 3
Hunwick, Matt
$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 3
Schultz, Justin
$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
Niemi, Antti
$700,000
G
UFA - 1
Määttä, Olli
$4,083,333
LD
UFA - 5
Cole, Ian
$2,100,000
LD
UFA - 1
Pouliot, Derrick
$800,000
LD
RFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Kessel, P.
Crosby, S.
Guentzel, J.
Letang, K.
Malkin, E.
Power Play 2
Vanek, T.
Jost, T.
Sheary, C.
Schultz, J.
Määttä, O.
Penalty Kill 1
Cullen, M.
Hagelin, C.
Dumoulin, B.
Letang, K.
Penalty Kill 2
Jost, T.
Kühnhackl, T.
Hunwick, M.
Cole, I.

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Aug 9, 2017 at 12:43
#1
Joined: Jul 2016
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Edited Aug 9, 2017 at 2:26 by Banks
You just said it yourself "Jost has the potential of being an elite center". Why would a team that is rebuilding move a kid that looks extremely promising for an older winger and a late 3rd? [mod]
Aug 9, 2017 at 12:50
#2
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cnb17
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Edited Aug 9, 2017 at 2:26 by Banks
Quoting: ClockReads2113
You just said it yourself "Jost has the potential of being an elite center". Why would a team that is rebuilding move a kid that looks extremely promising for an older winger and a late 3rd?


Because it's still a risk. At one point Pouliot was believe to be an elite Dman. Now he looks like a top 6 or maybe 7th. Sometimes the prospects don't pan out but Hornqvist gives the Avs a chance to be better and win now. The have the cap room and like I said are pretty weak on the wings. It's a gamble for both sides. And if a 2nd round pick makes it better than fine. I'd even say take a first if that's what makes the deal go through.
Aug 9, 2017 at 1:03
#3
Dmals
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 334
Likes: 23
Trade doesnt make sense for a rebuilding team... maybee if the avs just won back to back cups they would take that
Aug 9, 2017 at 1:15
#4
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Edited Aug 9, 2017 at 2:54 by Banks
Quoting: cnb17


Because it's still a risk. At one point Pouliot was believe to be an elite Dman. Now he looks like a top 6 or maybe 7th. Sometimes the prospects don't pan out but Hornqvist gives the Avs a chance to be better and win now. The have the cap room and like I said are pretty weak on the wings. It's a gamble for both sides. And if a 2nd round pick makes it better than fine. I'd even say take a first if that's what makes the deal go through.


But AVS are rebuilding, that's the main point. They shouldn't be trying to win anything, because they can't. They will be one of the worst teams again, Hornqvist doesn't change that.
Aug 9, 2017 at 2:02
#5
Avs fan
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 66
Likes: 5
This makes 0 sense why would we trade a potential Elite centre who is just 19. Sure Hornqvist is good but it doesn't add up to Jost's Value even with the 3rd. Doesn't make sense to trade for a guy that old while rebuilding and Hornqvist is a ufa and would not resign with one of the worse teams in the NHL
Aug 9, 2017 at 2:43
#6
Booman
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 165
Likes: 6
I dont believe the AVS make this trade unless they are getting someone just as young. Sprong/ZAR/Jake -- someone like that with maybe a MAATTA and Horqvist
Aug 9, 2017 at 2:46
#7
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Posts: 6,672
Likes: 1,686
Jesus some of you Pens fans are out to lunch. Avs are not moving Jost. Nor MacKinnon or Rantanen bc you know what...They are the teams future, with Sakic and Mgmt openly saying that they are the teams core going fwd. hornqvist and a 3rd for the 10th overall pick in 2016.....jesus is this so delusional.

Why not propose MacKinnon for Hagelin while your at it
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Aug 10, 2017 at 8:38
#8
Avs fan
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 66
Likes: 5
Quoting: coga16
Jesus some of you Pens fans are out to lunch. Avs are not moving Jost. Nor MacKinnon or Rantanen bc you know what...They are the teams future, with Sakic and Mgmt openly saying that they are the teams core going fwd. hornqvist and a 3rd for the 10th overall pick in 2016.....jesus is this so delusional.

Why not propose MacKinnon for Hagelin while your at it


Couldn't have said it better myself
 
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