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Vrana for palvelski
Orlov + for burns

Not interested in the first package as I already have better offers on the table for Pavelski.
Second package depends on the plus but I'm not in love with the package so far

Sep. 17, 2017 at 7:09 p.m.

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Jaros and what for jones

Jusse Saros? Not sure what the add would exactly be but it would be pretty substantial. I'll get back to you on what it is exactly

Sep. 17, 2017 at 9:30 p.m.

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Okay. I've narrowed it down to my top 3 for a center I think. I'm still waiting for responses on a couple, but it's at a point where I can start negotiating now.

Pavelski + 4th (SJS - 2018) for Juulsen, Hudon, 1st (MTL - 2018) + Plekanec

One of my directives is to stock picks, but if I have to move one, I have to get one back.
I'm taking into account that you could flip Plekanec for a 4th or 5th.
(We could work out something conditional where you send me a pick depending on what you flip Plekanec for instead. I'm just trying to avoid complications)

Sep. 17, 2017 at 9:37 p.m.

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From my side this deal looks pretty good as well. I'd prefer not to conditionalize the pick, as I'm looking to stock up picks as well plus I don't have a 2nd or 3rd this year. I'd like to think this through a little more too so it's not confirmed on my end yet but I'm definitely interested. Thanks for the response.

Sep. 18, 2017 at 10:02 a.m.

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Couture for saros jankrok and tolvanen

Sep. 18, 2017 at 11:55 a.m.

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Couture for saros jankrok and tolvanen

Not a bad offer but unless it's Tolvanen, Girard and a 2018 1st I'd have to turn it down. Couture has a very specific price that I cannot waver from.

Sep. 18, 2017 at 12:11 p.m.

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Couture for saros jankrok and tolvanen

Not a bad offer but unless it's Tolvanen, Girard and a 2018 1st I'd have to turn it down. Couture has a very specific price that I cannot waver from.

I dont want to trade Girard and my First

Sep. 18, 2017 at 12:21 p.m.

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I dont want to trade Girard and my First

Have to give good pieces to get good pieces... Couture is in a better situation than Matt Duchene and thus has more value. None of Tolvanen, Girard or the first are NHL proven yet. I can't just move assets for the sake of moving them. I will have more than enough cap space to re-sign Couture if needed so I'm not going to move him unless the package is just right. Also, the first is going to be a late first rounder given that Nashville is a contending team on the up and coming. It's no guarantee to be an NHler by any means

Sep. 18, 2017 at 12:24 p.m.

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interested in Couture/Pavelski but not at that price. If you're able to work around it send me a message on Twitter.

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Sep. 19, 2017 at 3:03 p.m.

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interested in couture or pavelski. I am willing to trade 1st round picks to acquire either of them. who do you value higher?

Sep. 19, 2017 at 3:14 p.m.

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interested in couture or pavelski. I am willing to trade 1st round picks to acquire either of them. who do you value higher?

Couture valued higher. Pavelski I'd still need 2018 1st + Two High End prospects for the offer to be competitive at this time.

Sep. 19, 2017 at 3:16 p.m.

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interested in couture or pavelski. I am willing to trade 1st round picks to acquire either of them. who do you value higher?

Couture valued higher. Pavelski I'd still need 2018 1st + Two High End prospects for the offer to be competitive at this time.

woah thats a lot for him.

for couture I could do 2018 1st round pick + sprong + Tristen jarry.
two really good prospects

Sep. 19, 2017 at 3:17 p.m.

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Mostly out of curiosity, would retaining on Pavelski be a possibility?

I'm considering a scenario where I don't send you Plekanec and I'm wondering if $2M retention x 2 years is an alternative.
You'd end up with an extra $4M this season to take on a contract (with compensation) if that's something you're interested in, and the $2M for one more season doesn't look like it creates any re-signing issues for you.
Or perhaps we could work Martin into the deal, where I take him at full price but the retention goes on Pavelski instead.

(My reasoning is that Martin is older and easier to deal with if he bombs in the next 2 seasons. He will either retire or be cheaper to buy out. It can also help to serve as a lower expectation for Pavelski's re-signing if he also declines).

Pavelski ($2M retained) for Juulsen, Hudon, 1st or
Pavelski ($2.425M retained) + Martin for Juulsen, Hudon, 1st, 3rd or
Pavelski ($2.425M retained) + Martin + 5th for Juulsen, Hudon, 1st, 2nd

All picks 2018, your choice of which 2nd, and you might want to add a player to your side of the first option (any waiver exempt player with 1 year left for my AHL, to keep the contracts even) but that's your call (doesn't matter to me).

Sep. 19, 2017 at 3:17 p.m.

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Couture valued higher. Pavelski I'd still need 2018 1st + Two High End prospects for the offer to be competitive at this time.

woah thats a lot for him.

for couture I could do 2018 1st round pick + sprong + Tristen jarry.
two really good prospects

Sprong and Jarry are good but Sprong is a RW and I'm already loaded there. As a whole it's still not enough quality for me to move Couture.

Sep. 19, 2017 at 3:21 p.m.

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I'd prefer if at possible to not retain on any two year contracts at the moment. Main reason I'm trying to avoid retaining on 2 yr. contracts is to be able to retain 1 yr contracts and flip at deadline for assets.

Sep. 19, 2017 at 3:25 p.m.

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woah thats a lot for him.

for couture I could do 2018 1st round pick + sprong + Tristen jarry.
two really good prospects

Sprong and Jarry are good but Sprong is a RW and I'm already loaded there. As a whole it's still not enough quality for me to move Couture.

what about horqnvist + a 2018 1st round pick + jarry for pavelski

hornqvist you can flip at deadline for another first round pick easily (probably more) so you would essentially be getting two 2018 first rounders + jarry + potentially even more depending on what u get for hornqvist AND u don't need to retain anything or take back any bad contracts

Sep. 19, 2017 at 3:25 p.m.

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I was just going off your description, where you'll retain on Martin. So are you just saying the first option is out, or all of them are?

Sep. 19, 2017 at 3:30 p.m.

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I was just going off your description, where you'll retain on Martin. So are you just saying the first option is out, or all of them are?

I forgot to change that part in my description. I will make a counter offer though...

Pavelski (3 million retained) + Martin + 2018 5th for Juulsen, Hudon, 2018 1st, Charlie Lindgren, Victor Mete

Sep. 19, 2017 at 4:20 p.m.

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Sprong and Jarry are good but Sprong is a RW and I'm already loaded there. As a whole it's still not enough quality for me to move Couture.

Bump

Sep. 19, 2017 at 4:24 p.m.

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Sprong and Jarry are good but Sprong is a RW and I'm already loaded there. As a whole it's still not enough quality for me to move Couture.

If Hornqvist had no NTC I'd be able to do this but since he has an NTC I'd be stuck with him through the deadline and would lose him for nothing

Sep. 19, 2017 at 4:31 p.m.

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If Hornqvist had no NTC I'd be able to do this but since he has an NTC I'd be stuck with him through the deadline and would lose him for nothing

wait how does the NTC work in this game?

Sep. 19, 2017 at 4:33 p.m.

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If Hornqvist had no NTC I'd be able to do this but since he has an NTC I'd be stuck with him through the deadline and would lose him for nothing

wait how does the NTC work in this game?

So NTCs can be traded once, but once they've been traded that one time they cannot be moved again for the duration of the contract. NMCs cannot be moved at all unless you get BOE approval.

Sep. 19, 2017 at 4:34 p.m.

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I was just going off your description, where you'll retain on Martin. So are you just saying the first option is out, or all of them are?

I forgot to change that part in my description. I will make a counter offer though...

Pavelski (3 million retained) + Martin + 2018 5th for Juulsen, Hudon, 2018 1st, Charlie Lindgren, Victor Mete

I appreciate the thought, but extra retention isn't worth additional assets for me. I'd prefer to make the cap work in other ways.
I'm realistically only expecting to get this season out of Martin, making him a rental. Worth a pick perhaps, but not a prospect.
Was just checking for additional possibilities, due diligence. I'll probably wait to see how well Streit holds up and see what deadline options there are.

Sep. 19, 2017 at 4:34 p.m.

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