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2017-18 GM Game - Messages to the BOE Thread

Sep. 21, 2017 at 8:28 p.m.
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You guys do understand that just because a guy gets offer sheeted doesn't mean the team owning the rights loses him right? This shouldn't be a huge issue.


Absolutely understand. Its become more about a principle than about the friggin offer sheeting for me now.
Sep. 21, 2017 at 8:29 p.m.
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You guys do understand that just because a guy gets offer sheeted doesn't mean the team owning the rights loses him right? This shouldn't be a huge issue.


I hear that part, its just a question on should the home team get first dibs.

The BOE also has to agree to the Offer Sheet. Meaning, you cannot just Offer Sheet Nikita Zadorov for 2M x 7 years. The way that Offer Sheets work is the same way it does in real life, only the BOE assumes player rights, as it does in the "arbitration hearings." If a team goes too low, the BOE counters. If the team gets it right, or goes higher, the BOE will likely accept the terms.

If we just did "force Offer Sheets", it would be the same thing in v1 with RFAs. You can basically sign players to whatever the heck you want and then carry on.


Obviously the contract has to be reasonable and the home team does still hold all the cards since they can match any offer or get compensation for it. these players didn't sign irl as of Sept 15 so they should be open to offer sheets with no restrictions
Sep. 21, 2017 at 8:32 p.m.
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I hear that part, its just a question on should the home team get first dibs.

The BOE also has to agree to the Offer Sheet. Meaning, you cannot just Offer Sheet Nikita Zadorov for 2M x 7 years. The way that Offer Sheets work is the same way it does in real life, only the BOE assumes player rights, as it does in the "arbitration hearings." If a team goes too low, the BOE counters. If the team gets it right, or goes higher, the BOE will likely accept the terms.

If we just did "force Offer Sheets", it would be the same thing in v1 with RFAs. You can basically sign players to whatever the heck you want and then carry on.


Obviously the contract has to be reasonable and the home team does still hold all the cards since they can match any offer or get compensation for it. these players didn't sign irl as of Sept 15 so they should be open to offer sheets with no restrictions


No they should not. All three players' GM's have expressed interest in resigning them, and would if permitted so let's let them sign the players and move on guys.
Sep. 21, 2017 at 8:33 p.m.
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I hear that part, its just a question on should the home team get first dibs.

The BOE also has to agree to the Offer Sheet. Meaning, you cannot just Offer Sheet Nikita Zadorov for 2M x 7 years. The way that Offer Sheets work is the same way it does in real life, only the BOE assumes player rights, as it does in the "arbitration hearings." If a team goes too low, the BOE counters. If the team gets it right, or goes higher, the BOE will likely accept the terms.

If we just did "force Offer Sheets", it would be the same thing in v1 with RFAs. You can basically sign players to whatever the heck you want and then carry on.


Obviously the contract has to be reasonable and the home team does still hold all the cards since they can match any offer or get compensation for it. these players didn't sign irl as of Sept 15 so they should be open to offer sheets with no restrictions


Yes they weren't signed IRL but maybe as of Sept 16th at 12:01am (In game) there respective teams had signed them? Does that not work? They signed them to a contract ahead of the offer sheet being submitted.....Why is that not a viable option?
Sep. 21, 2017 at 9:47 p.m.
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You cannot terminate a contract simply because it is convenient to you. Do you have any evidence of a particular contract that warrants contract termination?


Cameron Darcy and Brian Hart were both released IRL. Would like to get them off the books to open contract spots
Sep. 21, 2017 at 9:49 p.m.
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Sep. 21, 2017 at 10:03 p.m.
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You cannot terminate a contract simply because it is convenient to you. Do you have any evidence of a particular contract that warrants contract termination?


Cameron Darcy and Brian Hart were both released IRL. Would like to get them off the books to open contract spots


When where they released? Your team has the assumed rosters as of Sept. 15.
Sep. 21, 2017 at 10:16 p.m.
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Cameron Darcy and Brian Hart were both released IRL. Would like to get them off the books to open contract spots


When where they released? Your team has the assumed rosters as of Sept. 15.


They were released yesterday or 2 days ago. I assume it should be okay to do the same here?
Sep. 21, 2017 at 10:17 p.m.
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Sep. 21, 2017 at 10:20 p.m.
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When where they released? Your team has the assumed rosters as of Sept. 15.


They were released yesterday or 2 days ago. I assume it should be okay to do the same here?


What was their process of being released?
Sep. 21, 2017 at 10:25 p.m.
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2-1; the RFA Offer Sheet Rule passes.

GMs can file for arbitration by simply saying "I would like to file for arbitration for player xyz." The BOE will respond with a date and instructions.

If you want to Offer Sheet a player, simply sate "I would like to file an Offer Sheet for player xyz. Here are the terms:". The BOE will either accept or decline the offer sheet. If the offer sheet is too extreme, the BOE will reject it and arbitration can be filed.
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Sep. 21, 2017 at 10:31 p.m.
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They were released yesterday or 2 days ago. I assume it should be okay to do the same here?


What was their process of being released?


Being placed on waivers for the purpose of contract termination
Sep. 21, 2017 at 10:35 p.m.
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2-1; the RFA Offer Sheet Rule passes.

GMs can file for arbitration by simply saying "I would like to file for arbitration for player xyz." The BOE will respond with a date and instructions.

If you want to Offer Sheet a player, simply sate "I would like to file an Offer Sheet for player xyz. Here are the terms:". The BOE will either accept or decline the offer sheet. If the offer sheet is too extreme, the BOE will reject it and arbitration can be filed.


What's the protocol if say AA goes to the KHL?
Sep. 21, 2017 at 10:39 p.m.
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2-1; the RFA Offer Sheet Rule passes.

GMs can file for arbitration by simply saying "I would like to file for arbitration for player xyz." The BOE will respond with a date and instructions.

If you want to Offer Sheet a player, simply sate "I would like to file an Offer Sheet for player xyz. Here are the terms:". The BOE will either accept or decline the offer sheet. If the offer sheet is too extreme, the BOE will reject it and arbitration can be filed.


What's the protocol if say AA goes to the KHL?


In terms of whether or not they stay on your books?
Sep. 21, 2017 at 10:40 p.m.
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What's the protocol if say AA goes to the KHL?


In terms of whether or not they stay on your books?


Ya. I assume it's like Sobotka where you hold the rights but it doesn't count against cap
Sep. 21, 2017 at 10:43 p.m.
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In terms of whether or not they stay on your books?


Ya. I assume it's like Sobotka where you hold the rights but it doesn't count against cap


Sobotka's case occurred with salary arbitration, the real life arbitration, when he was with the Blues in 2014. I am not sure if it still applies to Offer Sheets. I would have to look into it more
Sep. 21, 2017 at 10:58 p.m.
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I would like to just sign Anderson and Zadorov lol.
Sep. 21, 2017 at 11:06 p.m.
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I submit an offer sheet for Josh Anderson 2.15M x 2 years.

I submit an offer sheet for Nikita Zadorov for 2.15M x 2 years.

There now Cap can match and sign the players.
Sep. 21, 2017 at 11:06 p.m.
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I would like to just sign Anderson and Zadorov lol.


go to the arbitration thread
Sep. 21, 2017 at 11:07 p.m.
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I submit an offer sheet for Josh Anderson 2.15M x 2 years.

I submit an offer sheet for Nikita Zadorov for 2.15M x 2 years.

There now Cap can match and sign the players.


you cant he submitted arbitartion
Sep. 21, 2017 at 11:07 p.m.
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I submit an offer sheet for Josh Anderson 2.15M x 2 years.

I submit an offer sheet for Nikita Zadorov for 2.15M x 2 years.

There now Cap can match and sign the players.


Don't think that's how it works...
Sep. 21, 2017 at 11:07 p.m.
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What was their process of being released?


Being placed on waivers for the purpose of contract termination
Sep. 21, 2017 at 11:09 p.m.
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I submit an offer sheet for Josh Anderson 2.15M x 2 years.

I submit an offer sheet for Nikita Zadorov for 2.15M x 2 years.

There now Cap can match and sign the players.


you cant he submitted arbitartion


Where? did he do that? Why wasn't Jack_Eichel notified beforehand than for AA?
Sep. 21, 2017 at 11:10 p.m.
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I would like to just sign Anderson and Zadorov lol.


^this is arbitration
Sep. 21, 2017 at 11:10 p.m.
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you cant he submitted arbitartion


Where? did he do that? Why wasn't Jack_Eichel notified beforehand than for AA?


What do you mean?
 
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