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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 10, 2023 at 1:23 a.m.
Thread: Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caufield</b></div><div>Cmon Habs fan, love Xhekaj but we gotta take that. If he was a RD that could be a different story</div></div>

He is a RD. . . . Its why we signed him SMH
Staois his Partner before and after Xhekaj was traded to his team was a nobody.
That year Xhekaj was his RD though he created so much opportunity for Staois he won CHL player of the Year and a contract from FLA(they likely regret as he's in the ECHL now)

Arber is unsung for what he brings as a player and his Character.
Undrafted he put on 53lbs after growing 3 inches and rather then get tougher it benefitted his overall game.
No longer defined by just his knuckles he had the size to play tough along the boards and man handle most opponents.

Xhekaj is the most well rounded really
Harris never played RD before last year about 10 games it was always Struble pushed to RD in NCAA
Guhle has always been top 2 LD on his teams basically and never been required too
Matheson started his career in FLA on RD due to depth like ours it was his only option for playing time.
Kovaecevic similar to Matheson had to do the same but with LD cause he had Buff,Myers and Trouba ahead of him as a rookie

Now when choosing who to swap out for Hutson in 10 months to a year in 10 months , Harris makes the most sense.
He's close to Hughes and St Louis is in Struble's way and he grew up with both the coach and gm's kids being coached by both just the same. 1/2 always had to go long term if not both after Huston/Matheson were added by Hughes in his first summer as GM in the NHL.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2023 at 6:06 p.m.
Thread: Maybe
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Not_Isles5513</b></div><div>Montreal takes the cap space and runs bro. That would be a great ROI.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>I love Anderson but imo, if someone offers us a first for him with no retention, we have to consider it. Maybe if he added Jarnkok and we added a fourth</div></div>

He's Haggling
He like myself wants a Sweetner.
That maybe fair value given the cap 100%
But the Leaf Slayer being traded to the Leafs . . . Hard Sell.
He made us consider you actual Rivals again like we do Senators and Bruins who play with Hate and Purpose each game we play.


Not saying No
Just saying something else
Villeneuve would be my ask

MTL isnt looking to Dump Anderson as Hughes says often he gets calls on Anderson a lot and thinks the returns too low.
We're in a position where we're just as happy to let him play out his contract to the final TDL then move him.
It'll be just as Hughes Rebuild is nearing its end anyways.

Villeneuve makes losing Anderson and have to face him often a little less painful
Villeneuve is in a unique position where we have 2/3 RD with 2 years left and pending UFA's at the time Villeneuve and Mailloux should be ready
Sooner if we move either Savard or Kovacevic this TDL
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2023 at 5:53 p.m.
Thread: Dont shoot me
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>No, you're right, I checked the article which was the source of my impression and it was dated July 5, 2022, not July 22, 2022 as I originally thought. I must have gotten "22" on the brain, as it was the jersey number of my favorite NY Islander.</div></div>

It happens
Like i was saying though Grier = crap GM
Fire him and i think the next guy gets bank for Karlsson
Dont fire him and SJS wont get squat until his final years (assuming Griers gone organically by them)

Karlsson though deserve more and to go to a team that can afford to spare it and contend.
If im TBL i think about what it takes to unite Hedman and Karlsson
If Grier's that bad at evaluating assets then TBL has a real shot

Grier needs a real Mentor as his ASGM
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2023 at 4:59 p.m.
Thread: Dont shoot me
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>squashmaple</b></div><div>Jarmo had less than zero to do with the Carter trade, considering it happened two years before he was hired. Howson was a fool, sure, but let’s not blame Jarmo for things he did. Fact check yourself before you go on a digression like this.</div></div>

Really ? it feels like Jarmo's been there forever
Its really only been like 10 years? Wow
I mean not that it takes away from CBJ Failure as an organization and Fanbase for blaming Carter for not letting them force an unwanted situation onto him.
Ok it wasnt Jarmo it was Howson

Whats that Change about my Statement ?
A Single name
Fact still remains the same . . . You're mad at Carter because after you Victimized him he didnt want to play for you.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2023 at 4:45 p.m.
Thread: Dont shoot me
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>To begin with, your figures are a little off, in the wrong direction on both sides: the retention on Burns was $2.7 million, and the retention on Karlsson here isn't $16 million but $18 million.

Second, the Burns trade was made nine days before Mike Grier was officially named San Jose's manager, so maybe he shouldn't be tagged with it, but even if he is, he might have learned from the experience of being gulled and be a little leery of falling for a bad offer a second time.

My point is that whatever Karlsson's trade value is, and I think that it's high, it will be increased substantially by the amount of retention San Jose is willing to absorb, making the acquisition cost even higher. And every cap dump, like Mikael Granlund or Jeff Petry or whomever, included in the package will only raise the cost even higher.

But then again, I continually insisted that there was no way Los Angeles was going to acquire Pierre-Luc DuBois.</div></div>

"Almost 3m" clarified in the start of the comment
Im not writing almost 3m every times
Those like yourself will understand it 9/10

Grier hired July 5th 2022, Burns traded July 13th 2022
Tell me , does the 5th come before or after the 13th, i forget lol
Im just kidding around im sure you just read it quickly and inversed the numbers.
For a minute i was like "fu** , he's right." then i remember going "what a moron" when i heard about the Burns trade(i still stand by that Grier's a bad GM)

Value as a player 100% from a business POV he's got a NMC he hasnt waived but asked to be traded.
I mean that's the bigger issue even more so then his Cap hit and how much they have to RS on just to get value out of him
He signed a bad contract, it happens to many people . If Josh Anderson was making 2.75m instead of 5.5m we'd have a line up of teams paying for him
But at 5.5m without RS we cant get enough value to justify moving him

IF Karlsson is to get the Value you're insisting on it'll only come in the final 1-2 years of his term once Grier has been fired and replaced with a competent GM
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2023 at 4:25 p.m.
Thread: Dont shoot me
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>I didn't say that. I said that this is a pie-in-the-sky offer unlikely to interest (let alone convince) a team that is under no pressure to move their biggest trade chip (unlike St. Louis or Vancouver earlier this year) without getting useful value back. You know better than to suggest that a 2026 second-round draft pick has any near-term impact, or that Ty Smith would ever be considered a major element in an Erik Karlsson trade, or that Mikael Granlund constitutes a significant potential benefit to San Jose.</div></div>

Again not with Grier, his history proves it.
We cant simply ignore that

But you're 100% right about Karlssons value
But look at it from another POV
Burns deal was on Grier's timetable and he got a couple bottom 6 NHL /AHL call up types and a 3rd for RS 3m x 3 years.

Now Karlsson's put a clock on it
Has a full 100% NMC and completly cut your Balls off
How is a GM like Grier expected to respond?

I think its like expecting Rudy to play in the NFL
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2023 at 4:16 p.m.
Thread: Dont shoot me
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Seriously?

A second-round pick in 2026 that won't turn into an NHL player until the 2028-2029 season is going to make Mike Grier's fingers twitch? The yet-to-impress Ty Smith is on Mike Grier's blackboard of Ten Targets We Should Trade For?

I have some news for you: Joel Blomqvist is not a better goalie prospect than Magnus Chroma, and if Mikael Granlund can so easily be flipped for picks, you guys would have seen the last of him by now.

The bottom line is that this offer doesn't come close to getting Erik Karlsson without $18 million in retention, which issue I note you failed to address.

This ACGM isn't up to your usual standards.</div></div>

Again before HIS CHOICES i argued the same
But i cant ignore the ACTUAL GM's history to impose my own will stating it as fact.
I mean Would I as a ACGM do it ? No F'n Way
But im not SJS GM

Again dont take this as an endorsement for this trade.
More a criticism of an inexperienced GM

But i failed to address nothing , the whole comment was based around the fact you say Grier wouldnt do 4m x4 years
But he's already done 3m x 3 years for nothing but warm bodies and a 3rd round pick
Burns had a good last season in SJS too and coulda got more if lets say either of our Current GM's were making the deal for Grier
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2023 at 4:08 p.m.
Thread: Dont shoot me
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Imagine for a moment that you're Mike Grier. You get a telephone call from the Pittsburgh front office alerting you to the imminent issue of what they consider is an attractive offer for Erk Karlsson. You sit down at your computer and read the incoming e-mail transmitting the offer shown here.

Tell me which element of that offer makes you say, "Wow!"

Then tell me what element of that offer you think would compensate San Jose, a small-market team, for retaining $18 million.</div></div>

Dont really have to
Just have to say 1 name "Brent Burns"
Trust me i argued this about Burns till my hands cramped.
But he RS of 3m almost for 3 years on Burns 8 days after being hired and got nothing but Quantity for it with no real Quality.
That 1st and 2nd alone by that logic should open up the conversation

Based on his history as a GM
I think he'd at least take a hard look a this deal
That i think they'd want PIT to RS on their cap dumps otherwise they have to pay other teams to RS for them to find value in the market place.
1m on Granlund and 3m on Zaitsev

It may suck Short term but long term it saved them 8m over the final 2 years
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2023 at 4:00 p.m.
Thread: Dont shoot me
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BlueJacketsandBuckeyes</b></div><div>You could give me Prime Crosby, Malkin and Letang, along with Carter and I would still say no.
When it happened, now and forever, **** Jeff Carter. He single handily set the Columbus Blue Jackets back almost a whole decade.</div></div>

That was Jarmo Kekalainen 100% as he was the facilitator in blindsiding Carter.
He acquired someone who was being blindsided by his GM Paul Holmgren

He signed a 11 year deal at just 272k upgrade on his previous 5m contract he had signed at 24 with the promise of being PHI Future.
122 days later he was traded to a non playoff team after making the playoffs with deep runs in 5 of his 6 first years.
My friends a diehard PHI fan , been to games in 17 different arena's to see them so far and he said the Carter trade was suppose to bring them closer to the Cup
He said its pretty pathetic when the closest 1/3 pieces they got has made it to a cup was Nick Cousins with FLA and they shoulda kept Carter /
Instead Carter went on to win 2 with LAK while Vorachek will retire Cupless and Couturier is looking to be following suit.


If your GM wasnt a complete Fool he wouldnt have helped blindside a player.
Ours did it to in a shady situation like that and got lambasted for it with the John Scott Trade , but i digress
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2023 at 3:48 p.m.
Thread: picking up more reclamation projects
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>klassic</b></div><div>Why don't you keep Dvorak and turn him around. Hawks don't want him.</div></div>

We'll trade him at the Deadline
RS for an extra year and package him for a Plekanec return or slightly better.(We got 2nd and 2 prospects we flipped right away for Kulak)

That said Beck seems determined that this spot is already his
Given his play at camp last year he might not be wrong.
But that said easier to sell Evans cheap at camp if that happens then flip Dvorak at the TDL


But with Laval Roster packed this year with Junior players turning pro
Its a hard sell to put him in the AHL if he steps up as it would me giving up a good piece demoting them to the ECHL to protect Evans and Dvorak
Personally i'd trade him to DAL for Faksa as its basically on par for Value with DAL getting a bit younger in the deal
MTL's upside is Faksa can communicate to Slafkovsky a lot of what he was missing last year as his English and French is shaky at best and his comprehension with Media is very low.

Kotkanemi was the same way at 18 so we got Joel Armia in addition to Lehkonen and Niemi to help him transition and learn quicker.
Faksa would accomplish that as Czech and Slovak are based of the same written word like France or Quebec French vs Acadian(Different but similar)
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2023 at 3:41 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2023 at 3:36 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 7, 2023 at 6:34 p.m.
Thread: Leafs Opening Night
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gaz</b></div><div>Robertson is included in the deal to pay for 1 year of Murray; Chicago could have Murray serve as the backup behind Mrazek for the year then move on from him next summer while gaining a good asset in Robertson who is under team control for the next few years.</div></div>

You state that like DET fans always insisting Zadina still had value.
Robertson isnt his brother. He's at the Andrighetto Point as i call it .
Not good enough to earn an undisputed NHL spot but requires Waivers(or about to be)

I mean who's played less hockey in the last 5 years then Roberson outside maybe Joel Teasdale possibly?
I mean he either has the worst luck or he has a condition like Bickel that doesnt allow him to rebound as quickly as 999/1000 NHL players have.
I mean he's so beat up he makes Martin Havlat look healthy
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 7, 2023 at 6:29 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 7, 2023 at 6:23 p.m.
Thread: Longjam
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ritzy</b></div><div>Chicago took a 2nd round pick 3 drafts from now for 5M Bailey (3.5M in salary), but no one will take Murray at less than 5M on the cap (6M in salary, check retention) with a first round pick next year?

Oh boy, take the bias blinders off.</div></div> Wait did you just compare an overpaid but effective players to Murray and talk sh*t?
You're usually pretty savvy and get why CHI before the buyout window while running a team dominated by youth and lower end contracts would take Bailey and not Murray????
They took a chance on him like Perry hoping they could actually play him. In this even its win win for CHI whether he wants to stay like Perry or got mad and they buy him out.
They still eat up enough cap to just make it over the cap floor while using largely youth pieces.


Eventually people need things as with Seabrook or Weber's contracts deemed unmovable.
Eventually someone needed the relief they offer regardless of how small it is
If you're asserting moving Murray's gonna be cheap and easy then why are the cap strapped leafs sitting on him for the 2nd years now?

You want to debate fine but take your slander on bias ,shine it up real nice ... Turn it sideways and Stick it straight up your Candy A$$.
I got no issue debating in context any topic.
But i will not tolerate ignorance instead of Intelligence.
Bias means i have to care or have a horse in the race.
I dont,cause its a fictional trade between rivals
That and We arent burdened with Murray , just Hoffman
Atleast our guy shows up healthy and ready to put in an effort.
Murray does nothing and makes bank
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 5, 2023 at 7:48 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 5, 2023 at 7:41 p.m.
Thread: Which teams would be interested in these offers
I can Indulge the rest but Xhekaj . . . . No
We got him Waiver Exempt until Matheson is in his final year
Worst case we'll play him in Laval and invest in him being more then a Alexi Emelin type with the ability to fight.
He's got a big shot and he can score with it to already passing Romanov's Goal total in MTL in a half season with 5.
Thats as a Rookie , if we can hone that Cannon and give him real accuracy he's gonna be a handful in the top 4

Why?
You play Matheson and Harris heavy with Savard and Kovacevic
Savard and Kovacevic are pending FA you see off not next TDL but the one after
You move out Matheson too if you can if not in his final year at the TDL.
Play Harris a year after both Hutson and Reinbached show up in Mathesons final year or just after.


Maximum return and no giving away young Defensman