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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 15, 2016 at 5:45 p.m.
Thread: 2 blockbusters and a buyout
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bones20</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BruinsForTheWin</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bones20</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BreKel</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bones20</b></div><div><i>why would any team give up anything of value for krejci. Number are regressing, injured all the time and bad contract.</i></div></div>

LOL, do people do any research before posting? Numbers aren't regressing at all. He's steady with his production, and he missed like 8/9 games this season. Last year was really the only year he's missed significant time. Do research before you speak. Contract is right there for what a legit #1 center makes.</i></div></div>

You do some research his shots per 60 is down. His advance stats are falling fast and now he is getting hurt. He is at the high end a 2c closer to a 3c now.

<a href="http://public.tableau.com/shared/KCGCNT6PY?:display_count=yes" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://public.tableau.com/shared/KCGCNT6PY?:display_count=yes</a></i></div></div> Are you dumb? There was only 10 legit C's with more PPG. Don't get a half chub over irrelevant nerd stats. Shots don't equal goals, possesion doesn't equal goals, Goals are goals and you are a sheeple for letting advanced stats tell the story. Krejci had what was probablly his best 1st half, then got hit with injuries and still banked 60 points. You are completely delusional if you think he's anything but a top 30 C in the league. #3 C? get your head checked, you've got major problems if you believe that.</i></div></div>

Look at the teams winning cups... Teams with really good nerd stats. You are a dinosaur.</i></div></div> Yeah, guys like Goligoski who are a beast with nerd stats are really as good as they make him seem. GJ, I now know to completely disreguard everything you post Bones20.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 15, 2016 at 1:40 p.m.
Thread: Why I should be Bruins GM 4.0
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TuuksMcGooks</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BruinsForTheWin</b></div><div><i>I can't believe you made a trade for Hartnell. The guy is overpaid and hes steadily declined since getting that extension. Murray would need to be a #1 dman for that to not be brutal. Also the Wizz is worth less than half of what you offered. He's a 2M type player at this point.</i></div></div>
Hartnell has steadily declined? Take a peak at his stats man. He put up his 3rd consecutive 50 point, 100 PIM season, all while being put in a position to fail by john tortorella. And if wisniewski was a 2million type player, he would have signed by now. Besides, as I said in the previous comment, it's a 1 year deal. Have a clue of what your talking about before you rip apart somebodys proposal</i></div></div> Hartnell scored 37 goals when he signed his extension. His high since then is 28. You need to restudy your stats bro, unless you're some kind of deunce you should know 49 does not equal 50+. A player 34 years old being paid 4.75M should score 60 points in my book. He's not getting better and he's likely to decline. If you think you're getting 37 or even 30 goal Hartnell you're in denial of his age and his downward trend. Trading for a player is like buying stock. Do you put your money into things that have no room to improve and a realistic chance to decline? If so you're beyond the point of being helped. If Hartnell played a skill game and didn't have so many miles, or was on a 1 year contract he'd have good value, maybe a 1st at the deadline. People say Lucic will burn out by the end of his deal, but I think Hartnell is the same type of guy who also came to the NHL at an early age. Nobody thought Mike Richards would fall off so fast and be crap now, but it happens a lot to players who aren't stars. If you gave me the choice of Eric Staal for 1x4M as a UFA or 3 years of Hartnell at 4.75M I'd tak Staal all the way to the bank.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 15, 2016 at 1:18 p.m.
Thread: My Plan 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BreKel</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Patrick_Rodden</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BreKel</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Patrick_Rodden</b></div><div><i>ya that Anahiem deal is stupid, youre giving up way too much. Zboril if he pans out will be a stud, Morrow could turn out, and why trade 2 firsts when the last two years you havent made the playoffs and have picked in the top 15. I dont see Boston trading Zboril or Vatrano unless its an absolute steal</i></div></div>

He didn't give up enough actually.... Lindholm already is a stud.</i></div></div>ya he gave up way to much. why trade away 2 firsts, the number 13 overall pick in 2015, and Vatrano, so say Vatrano could get you a low second or a high First rounder in return. So thats in theory 4 1st round picks or 3 and a very low second. and if the price is that high 1.) Sweeney needs to hang up the phone or 2.) sign him to an offer sheet. which you would have to sign Lindholm to a contract of no less than 9.388 mil AAV for the compensation going back to the ducks to be 4 first round picks. Im sorry Lindholm isnt the highest paid d man in the league good. besides you signed him to a 6 mill AAV deal which in an offer sheet if the ducks don't match is only a first, second, and a third round pick. not two firsts, Zboril, and Vatrano. sorry but a gross overpayment.</i></div></div>

He didn't give up too much. Lindholm is a 22 year old #1 top pairing defenseman. Do those grow on trees? No they do not. Any deal for Hampus starts with Pastrnak+ anyway. That said: Zboril, Vatrano, and two 1st round picks would be a steal in the bruins case. For one, those two prospects are not even close to being sure-things. I like them both, and hope both blossom but let's temper the expectations for them. Getting a legit for 4 unknowns would be amazing. I get you probably don't watch much of Lindholm, and that's fine, but don't act like this is an overpayment. It's not lolol

Also, the Bruins can't just offer sheet Lindholm. They don't have the picks to compensate ANA for that (the 6M AAV -- 1st, 2nd 3rd)</i></div></div> The AAV for RFA's is divided by 5 years term. So a 7x7 contract would have an AAV of over 9 and cost us 4x1st's. I believe thats why he was saying the offer sheet would be 4 1st's because we'd have to aquire our own 2nd and 3rd from NJ + PHI to offer less AAV.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2016 at 9:16 p.m.
Thread: 2 blockbusters and a buyout
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bones20</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BreKel</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bones20</b></div><div><i>why would any team give up anything of value for krejci. Number are regressing, injured all the time and bad contract.</i></div></div>

LOL, do people do any research before posting? Numbers aren't regressing at all. He's steady with his production, and he missed like 8/9 games this season. Last year was really the only year he's missed significant time. Do research before you speak. Contract is right there for what a legit #1 center makes.</i></div></div>

You do some research his shots per 60 is down. His advance stats are falling fast and now he is getting hurt. He is at the high end a 2c closer to a 3c now.

<a href="http://public.tableau.com/shared/KCGCNT6PY?:display_count=yes" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://public.tableau.com/shared/KCGCNT6PY?:display_count=yes</a></i></div></div> Are you dumb? There was only 10 legit C's with more PPG. Don't get a half chub over irrelevant nerd stats. Shots don't equal goals, possesion doesn't equal goals, Goals are goals and you are a sheeple for letting advanced stats tell the story. Krejci had what was probablly his best 1st half, then got hit with injuries and still banked 60 points. You are completely delusional if you think he's anything but a top 30 C in the league. #3 C? get your head checked, you've got major problems if you believe that.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2016 at 4:01 p.m.
Thread: Bruins Mock 4.7589 -- I don't know what number this is
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BreKel</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BruinsForTheWin</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BreKel</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Burnsy613</b></div><div><i>except you traded Joe morrow but have him in your lineup......... krug and Ceci is not a pairing you'll see CJ ever use.... C miller would play 3rd pairing and Ceci may move up to play with chara and K miller would play with krug.</i></div></div>

Yeah, i took him out.

Ceci has proven to be a good player in his own zone. Not sure why you think that wouldn't be a pairing CJ would use.</i></div></div>

I don't really understand this. Unless your basic reasoning is Spooner can't play wing I see no reason to trade him, especially for a guy who could be our # 6 in 2 years. Carlo, Zboril, Lauzon, O'Gara, McAvoy, Lindgren, could all end up better than Ceci. Then factor in Grzlyck, Benning, Arnesson and Sherman. We have zero need for a young dman.</i></div></div>

Well for one, no... I don't think Spooner can play wing. He plays LW for one (when he does), and we have Marchand, Beleskey, Vatrano right now (and hell, who knows; may add Vesey). So no room there. He's not a top 6 winger (playing his off side). So he's expendable. You trade him for a similar young defenseman. Cody Ceci is jus that. He's exactly what this team needs. Right Shot, plays sound defense, can skate and transition, and give you offense. He's 22 years old.... You wouldn't trade Spooner for a legit top 4 (young) dman b/c of our system? That is flawed logic.

"I don't want to trade for a proven player because we have a lot of maybe's in the system." For one, who says any of those guys turn into top 4 defenseman (which Ceci already is)? It is not a given at all. Out of the players you listed, I think Carlo, McAvoy, Lauzon, and Zboril have legit top 4 potential. Lindgren is right there, but lets see how he fares in his first college season.

I love O'Gara, but he (at least right now) looks more like a solid #5/6 and a guy who you can slide up IF NEEDED (like an Andrew Ference...Not play style, but how the Bruins used him). Grzelcyk -- can't be viewed as anything more than a #5/6 PP specialist (what Krug was). Benning is most likely gone (and isn't anything to write home about). Arnesson maybe is a top 4 guy, but he has zero offense. Probably another #5/6 (if he makes it at all.) Sherman, too far away to make any type of projection.

This Bruins team desperately needs a young top 4 defenseman (For now, and the future...). They really have a need for 2 right now, for Christ's sake. The Bruins right side is Kevan Miller -- Adam McQuaid -- Colin Miller/JML .... And you don't want to trade for a solid young T4D b/c of our system? If any of the above blossom to the point where they're bumping Cody Ceci down to a #6 position, then the Bruins probably hit the lottery.

Now that is what i don't really understand......</i></div></div> We only need a RHD because you traded McQuaid, which isn't likely to happen. Can Carlo play in the AHL this year? If he has to be returned to juniors it is very likely he makes the team. He's not going to get better playing against 17 and 18 year olds when hes already got man strength. I think Carlo is the guy this team needs to play with JML or Krug. As for Spooner, he could easily be 2nd line LW. He's superior or tied with Beleskey in everything but hitting. Vatrano will likely get first shot with Bergeron and Marchand at RW.... the spot he played at last year. If we sign Vesey either him or Spooner will be 3rd LW and Beleskey can play the type of role hes suited for on line #4.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2016 at 3:23 p.m.
Thread: what I'd like to see
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BreKel</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BruinsForTheWin</b></div><div><i>Kevin Shitinshirt sucks, but even he's worth more than what you offered.</i></div></div>

Well for one, Shattenkirk doesn't suck at all, he's just not what we need. Prime Chara, and he'd actually be the perfect partner for him. To belittle his name like that makes it hard to actually take you serious.</i></div></div> Appearently you missed the playoffs and all regular season as well. He was fully crapped pants bad. Huge minus player on a great team, The opposing team seemed to score against him as much as Pietroangelo and Parayko combined. St Louis dropped the ball not trading him while he still has big value. Parayko will pass him next season and even Schmaltz could beat him out for #5/6 RHD if he gets a fair shot.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 12, 2016 at 10:14 p.m.
Thread: Bruins Mock 4.7589 -- I don't know what number this is
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BreKel</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Burnsy613</b></div><div><i>except you traded Joe morrow but have him in your lineup......... krug and Ceci is not a pairing you'll see CJ ever use.... C miller would play 3rd pairing and Ceci may move up to play with chara and K miller would play with krug.</i></div></div>

Yeah, i took him out.

Ceci has proven to be a good player in his own zone. Not sure why you think that wouldn't be a pairing CJ would use.</i></div></div> I don't really understand this. Unless your basic reasoning is Spooner can't play wing I see no reason to trade him, especially for a guy who could be our # 6 in 2 years. Carlo, Zboril, Lauzon, O'Gara, McAvoy, Lindgren, could all end up better than Ceci. Then factor in Grzlyck, Benning, Arnesson and Sherman. We have zero need for a young dman.