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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 3, 2022 at 11:48 a.m.
Thread:
Tarasenko
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>LMFAO yeah Kyrou was never offered... did you read the offer? Sandella Tarasenko and a high pick... was their offer. THIS MEAN THEY VALUED TARASENKO MORE THAN A CAP DUMP. anyone w a brain knew he would be going to Cal if they traded for MT. good try though ... actually it wasnt but cool... imagine thinking youd get VT for a late 2nd ... lol good job</div></div>
It has been reported that Calgary didn't want Tarasenko....In no world does Marco Scandella (lol), Tarasenko, and a pick get it done. That's stupid. It was widely known that Kyrou would have to be in it for St Louis to actually get the player. Man, if you can't get that that stupid offer was not close, then what are you even doing here?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 27, 2022 at 8:43 p.m.
Thread:
Tarasenko
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>LMFAO you lack the mental capacity to properly understand why this is dumb... They would have just traded Tara to Cal like Fla did w Weegar and Hub? lol</div></div>
Jordan Kyrou would have been the one going to Calgary in a St Louis deal. And then they still would have had to clear cap space. Sorry you didn't get that.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 26, 2022 at 8:27 a.m.
Thread:
Tarasenko
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>"Columbus just did this with Bjorkstrand and Seattle. They got very little in return for a very good player because of the cap crunch." AGAIN TEAMS THAT ARE IN CAP CRUNCHES DO THIS... BLues arent in a cap crunch and the OB deal is one of the worst deals of this offseason. SO you suggest the Blues also make a terrible move? great plan</div></div>
....The whole point of this was a theoretical Tkachuk trade to St Louis that would cause a cap crunch lol. Well done.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 23, 2022 at 9:35 p.m.
Thread:
Tarasenko
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>Petry cost more money than MARINO ... idk how you arent understanding its pretty easy. BOTH ARE RSD. Yes clearing cap to add an worse older player who makes more money is intelligent.
lmfao now how dumb does your logic look for the BLUES to just give away Tera?
Petry had 107 giveaways last year...and only 17 takeaways....</div></div>
The point is that you genuinely don’t understand that when teams are trying to clear cap space, they get less in return for players they trade away to make I happen?
It’s a really simple concept. The Penguins needed to clear cap space, they got little value for Marino. In this scenario, it would have been the Blues doing that to make room for another trade. This happens all the time.
Columbus just did this with Bjorkstrand and Seattle. They got very little in return for a very good player because of the cap crunch.
Quit embarrassing yourself. It’s not hard. You are just being stubborn and refusing to understand how teams lose value when trying to clear cap space.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Jul. 23, 2022 at 9:17 a.m.
Thread:
(CGY/FLA) - Tkachuk for Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jpsnow13</b></div><div>I dont understand why people think Calgary won this trade by getting 2 soon to be free agents.
Obviously both teams didn't pulled the trigger without talking to the player's agents to learn their expectations for a new contract. Then FLO resigned Tkachuk right away..., WHERE IS CGY CONTRACTS EXTENSIONS!.!?!
Until proven wrong, getting 2 rentals is a bad return, however skilled, for a 24 y.o. +100pts rfa power foward.
I can see the drama coming in CGY. Contract saga all season and the team forced to flip Huberdeau and Weegar at TDL while being in a playoff spot. Yuk.</div></div>
People are ignoring the contracts, ages, and the fact that Tkachuk is a much better two-way player than Tkachuk. Florida wins by a big margin if there are sitting there in a year with 25-year-old Tkachuk is signed for 7 more years and Calgary is left with a first round pick.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Jul. 23, 2022 at 9:16 a.m.
Thread:
(CGY/FLA) - Tkachuk for Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pinslack</b></div><div>They can flip Huberdeau for two 1st pick + and Weegar one 1st pick +
Thats a great return (four 1st and more) for Tkachuk if its how it turns out</div></div>
They should do that but they probably aren’t.
Forum:
NHL Trades
Jul. 23, 2022 at 9:15 a.m.
Thread:
(CGY/FLA) - Tkachuk for Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>Florida trading Huberdeau blows my mind... guess he wants to play for Montreal too?
Calgary gets the better forward, and one of the better defenders in the league... and a 1st round pick... and a prospect... holy mama</div></div>
Tkachuk is the better forward, five years younger, and isn’t a liability defensively. Why do people ignore Huberdeau’s poor defense? Also people ignoring the contract?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 21, 2022 at 6:24 p.m.
Thread:
Tarasenko
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>Explain? Marino replacement on RS is more expensive. LMFAO what a terrible take. Penguins move Marino bc they thought they were getting a younger player with more upside... they also are changing the D hence trading Matheson.
TML are over the cap they should probably trade Nylander for a 3rd? thats your logic. moving great players for nothing right? good talk</div></div>
…you genuinely don’t understand that Marino was moved to clear cap space for Petry (who was more expensive than Matheson)? I’m sorry, man. I thought you were just pretending not to understand.
Tarasenko has requested a trade from St. Louis and is an expiring contract that is logical to move to make room for Tkachuk. How is that in any way comparable to Nylander? Lol. This is pathetic.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 21, 2022 at 2:07 a.m.
Thread:
Tarasenko
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PhysicalGraffiti</b></div><div>That’s not what a cap dump is at all champ.</div></div>
The Marino trade was done so the team had enough cap space for Petry. Stop pretending not to understand it. These kinds of transactions happen regularly and teams get value but not full value on players they are trading away.
Few things annoy me more than someone understanding something but pretending not to just to be irritating. Stop it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 20, 2022 at 6:10 p.m.
Thread:
Tarasenko
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>Paccioretty was moved bc Vegas had zero cap space... Blue dont need to trade for MT and probably will move Tara in a trade for him so he can be flipped for assets.. lol they more than likely wont give away a ppg+ player for free... AGAIN CAP DUMPS ARE NORMALLY A PLAYER YOU PAY TO GET RID OF.... you are clearly paying for him</div></div>
John Marino was traded as cap dump last week and his team still got back value. That’s how it usually works in this league. What are talking about? It’s like you don’t understand that players can have value while getting dumped to clear cap space. It’s baffling.
I’ll spell it out for you: Teams get less back in return for players when they are trying to clear cap space and everyone knows it. It’s not hard to grasp.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 20, 2022 at 6:08 p.m.
Thread:
Tarasenko
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PhysicalGraffiti</b></div><div>This is getting to the point of talking to a wall… and probably a wall with crappy wall paper from the 60s</div></div>
It is. Neither of you understand the concept or leverage or the fact that cap dumps can be done while still getting value back (you have to be really stupid not to grasp that).
Last week, the Penguins traded Marino in a cap dump to New Jersey. They still got value back. It’s still a cap dump. Don’t be intentionally stupid. Pretending not to understand a basic concept doesn’t help your argument.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 20, 2022 at 5:50 p.m.
Thread:
Tarasenko
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PhysicalGraffiti</b></div><div>A player who just scored 91 points isn’t a cap dump. That’s crazy and they can move him to a team with a ton of space like Anaheim, who can retain 50% and move him to another team for a 1st</div></div>
Of course a productive player can be a cap dump. What are you taking about?. Again, Paccioretty was Vegas’s best forward last year. And he was given away for free. Think about it for more than 5 seconds.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 20, 2022 at 5:48 p.m.
Thread:
Tarasenko
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>"See Paccioretty" sooo i see you offered a 2nd.. which means you agree he has value and that you are willing to pay for him. Carolina gave up nothing you are giving up a 2nd? imo Tara gets a 1st or 2nd + prospect</div></div>
He doesn’t get that much as an expiring player on a team trying to clear cap space. That’s not how it works. That’s deadline value with retained salary.
Having value doesn’t mean he has high value. What kind of logic is “you think he has value so he must be worth a first?” Hilarious.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 20, 2022 at 5:37 p.m.
Thread:
Tarasenko
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PhysicalGraffiti</b></div><div>That’ll cost you a 1st I’m sure</div></div>
Not for a cap dump. Carolina got Paccioretty for free for that reason. If they are getting Tkachuk, they have little leverage
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 20, 2022 at 5:35 p.m.
Thread:
Tarasenko
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hullsy09</b></div><div>Yeah tarasenko gets a bit more than that</div></div>
Not if his team is desperately trying to clear cap space and everyone knows it. See Paccioretty.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 19, 2022 at 11:39 p.m.
Thread:
Tkachuk
Going to have to pay someone to take McGinn. He sucks and moving money is very expensive right now. Teams are having a hard time shedding cap space.
For a Tkachuk trade with the Penguins weak system, you are going to need more than that. Pickering is the top prospect now. Add a second first, at least, without such a difficult condition to make.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 19, 2022 at 5:03 p.m.
Thread:
Whatever let Calgary have everything
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheGuyInTheChair</b></div><div>If he's not a 5' 10" forward Sullivan won't play him</div></div>
I think the problem is that it’s generally pretty hard to find players that are both big and good. Ryan Reaves only fit one criteria.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 17, 2022 at 11:27 p.m.
Thread:
avs may consider trading girard
I don't think management that has talked about "getting bigger" on the back end is going to be particularly interested in Girard, though he is a good player.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 17, 2022 at 2:36 p.m.
Thread:
How Id Finish The Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>StarWarsFur</b></div><div>Well if only it was so simple to move McGinn, he's a fourth liner/fringe third liner making 2.75 for the next three years, no team wants his contract. The forward group as is just isn't good enough, and you can't improve it without moving out cap-space, and the obvious ones Mcginn or Zucker would be too expensive to move.</div></div>
If there's no move to be made, there's no move to be made. And McGinn can definitely be moved with enough stuff thrown in there (it's just a matter of determining cost/benefit). His buyout is also not insane with only a cap hit of like a million each year.
The point is that moving Pettersson without any depth behind him or a replacement is simply a bad idea unless you are making some crazy move to drastically improve in other areas.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 17, 2022 at 12:19 p.m.
Thread:
How Id Finish The Offseason
Moving Pettersson doesn't make a ton of sense now with only unproven and young players here to replace him. There's no Mike Matheson on the team to take second pairing minutes. Dumoulin is aging and getting injured.
Unless it's done to bring in a star level player, I think the Pettersson trades should be over with. The contract they should be trying to move is McGinn. He's expendable.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 17, 2022 at 12:15 p.m.
Thread:
Sabres Fans - Thoughts
By moving Pettersson, a solid second pairing LD, the Penguins are left with a bunch of unproven guys behind Dumoulin (who has had some injuries and struggles over the past two years). That's a problem and not one worth having for Girgensons.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 17, 2022 at 12:32 a.m.
Thread:
Future doesnt matter give Kadri all the money
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeoZei</b></div><div>I can’t see the Oilers doing this maybe another team however the oilers already have 3 left side defence who are NHL ready this year and another 2 left side prospects that in the next few years should be good to go.</div></div>
Dumoulin is expiring so he can be a stopgap for a team that has guys coming up next year. A GM that valued old Duncan Keith probably likes him.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 16, 2022 at 11:01 p.m.
Thread:
Future doesnt matter give Kadri all the money
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>edeangel84</b></div><div>Letang loves Dumo so he isn’t going anywhere and if he were traded it’s certainly not for a 2nd as bad as he was last year. And Malkin on a wing is a really really bad idea</div></div>
It's been reported that Dumoulin was absolutely one of the guys being talked about on the market.
Moving players with teams capped out is hard. Returns on players is lower than you would expect/want. No team is giving you a first for Brian Dumoulin. Look at what the Penguins got from moving a younger player who was better last season (Marino). You aren't getting a ton back from a player like Dumoulin unless its at the deadline.
Malkin has played plenty of wing in his career. Crosby and Malkin together, especially pre-sullivan was very effective. The Flyers moved Giroux to the wing in his early 30's and his career had a resurgence.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 16, 2022 at 9:14 p.m.
Thread:
Pool party
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PensGMwannabe</b></div><div>Agreed. I don't see MP going anywhere now. Smith can go down to WBS and hopefully dominate, then next year Dumo's contract is off the books and maybe Smith can be a cheap replacement then?</div></div>
Smith having <150 games and being eligible to be sent down to the AHL without waivers for the season makes me more ok with the trade. Build the player back up.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 16, 2022 at 9:07 p.m.
Thread:
Pool party
I don't know if counting on both Joseph and Smith next year is a good call.
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