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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 1, 2020 at 9:00 a.m.
Thread: The NHL owes Detroit draft luck
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>Yzerman did make 3 trades during the season so he didn't have to bring up prospects too early. First he traded Pope for Biega now I'm not saying Pope is anything special he may never make it out of the AHL but a 25yr old winger over a 30 bottom pair defenseman who most likely won't be signed in Detroit. Then he traded Regula for Perlini so far Perlini 37 games 1 goal and 4 points and he is awful Regula was taken at the beginning of the 3rd round in a deep draft I still think he could be a solid defenseman and at 67th overall won't be that far behind the two 2nds we got for AA. Now the Fabbri trade worked out ok but that was because STL had injuries and they wanted DLR because he is solid defensively. Saarijarvi he was totally expendable maybe a fresh start does him good but he is still just an AHL player to small with out the speed or skill that make smaller players successful in the NHL. He was traded for Comire because Pickard was brought in to play for The Griffins because their top 2 goalies went back to Europe to play and Pickard has NO BUSINESS in The NHL. Why he waived Comire after 1 game is beyond me but he has played for 3 teams this season and back to the team he started with but Detroit is the only team that traded for him. You also have to look at what Detroit had to work with Abdelkader, Neilson, Ericsson and Daley all over paid with NTCs then you have Helm who is just overpaid. So the vets that most teams sell off during their rebuild were untradeable thank you Mr. Holland!! I think Holland is a good GM but the 1 thing Edmonton should watch out for is he overpays grinder/energy guys and hands out NTCs like they are Pez. I'm only bringing this up because he got pulled for the 6th time this season last night and still doesn't have a win since 10/29/2019. Howard has had a really rough year and part of it is the team in front of him. He has been a very good goalie and been one of Detroit most consistent players up until this season. I've watched almost every game this season and they are bad but they haven't quit or given up half way through games. Now their core players are still working as hard as in seasons past. Even AA who is pretty bad defensively was back checking and doing his best to play a 200 foot game it's the hardest I've seen him work defensively since he came into the league.</div></div>

that's true they do have some brutal contracts.

this isn't like an anti detroit thing either though, just in general I think it would be interesting to explore. Det isn't even the proper use case, colorado is much better because they went from 48 - 98 points in one year so I dont think they needed nor deserved mackinnon lol

My buddy is a red wings fan, i'm obviously a devil fan, we did this fun thing last night where we looked at who we couldve drafted with our first and second round picks the last few years. long story short, I do not recommend lol
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27, 2020 at 11:38 p.m.
Thread: The NHL owes Detroit draft luck
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>This is by far the most ignorant thing I've see posted on this site and if you really think it is true then you really don't have a clue. First there isn't a player in the league that would actually tank on purpose. This season will be the 4th straight season Detroit has missed the playoffs. Detroit traded Nyquist(49) and Jensen(15) at the 2019 TDL and Vanek(36) and Kronwall(27) both retired in the off season. Nyquist was 3rd in points and Vanek was 6th in points for Detroit last season. Losing two defensemen that played top 4 minutes but Kronwall was also Detroit's best defenseman and he finished 8th in points. They added Filppula(21), Erne(4), Nemeth(9) and they did get Bowey(16) in the Jenson trade but Jensen is far better defensively. So it's not that hard to see that they have far less talent this season compared to last season. Detroit already down two starting defenseman they had to deal with injuries. The four starting defensemen from the previous season and the games they've played this season Ericsson 13 games, Daley 38 games, DeKeyser 8 games and Green 48 games. Coming into this season just about every hockey analyst said Detroit was going to be bad this season and worse than last season.

Something I'd like to point out. In the 2016-17 season NJD had the 1st pick (Nico Hischier). Then in 2017-18 a trip to the playoffs and in 2018-19 NJD has the 1st pick again (Jack Hughes). While I do find it very hard to believe an NHL team would really tank on purpose. NJD over the last couple of seasons looks a lot more like a team that tanked.</div></div>

1) relax lol
2) my point is the gm can step in and make a move to help the team a little bit to close the gap towards everyone else and create more parity. My whole point is there could be a threshold, maybe they sign a ufa to help, or implement a better system and coach. I proposed 50 points, how many teams havent been able to muster 50 points in 82 games? very few. Were talking about 1 -3 more wins at most in those cases, that goes a long way in parity
3) I don't think the devils tanked, I think they were very lucky and ultimately won the lottery when they werent the last place team - they were never in position to come close to not hitting a 50 point threshold. in addition the reason they were so bad is they had historically bad goaltending, i mean the guy couldnt win a game for 365 days. and with that, they still had 20+ more points than 50. so frankly you couldnt be more wrong in the comparison

edit: and i get the counter point that you are in a bad spot and dont want to spend assets to prolonge the bad times, but there are ways to achieve a level of quality on the ice that produces just 50 points that dont require completely decimating your existing assets. thats my only point, im not saying 70 points or 80, im saying 50, which is not exactly common. Thats all. Its an opinion and its certainly not ignorant. I look at it not to punish the players but to force the gm to help them.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 26, 2020 at 11:47 a.m.
Thread: The NHL owes Detroit draft luck
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bf3351</b></div><div>I think that a rule should be put in where a team can only have 1 first overall pick in 3 years and can only have two lottery picks in 3 years example (1st and 3rd overall. Or 3 lottery picks in 4 years(2nds and 3rds)

I’m sure i made that sounds really confusing. I apologize I’m paying for an oil change lol</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AnyoneButTheBruins</b></div><div>I read someone's suggestion that was kind of intriguing. So a team can basically say f!@# it we are done for the year forfeit their playoff hopes and then every win after that gives them a better chance at getting a better pick. Or they suggested the same thing, but the wins collect towards the next season's draft. I cannot remember exactly what they said but I liked it and this is coming from a Red Wings fan lol. Only side effect of this is that it could potentially make the trade deadline a hell of a lot more difficult with pretty much making every team buyers.</div></div>

haha i think those are both interesting. glad were all aligned you shouldnt be rewarded for tanking lol
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 25, 2020 at 4:57 p.m.
Thread: The NHL owes Detroit draft luck
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stan_Bowman</b></div><div>Yall r gonna be pissed when the Blackhawks win the number one overall.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>bigZ98</b></div><div>Dont think the NHL owes any team anything lol. How would you feel if you were a mediocre team and all of a sudden the NHL was helping a team lower than you with the draft to get better picks? Isnt exactly the most fair thing in the world ya know. I think Detroit has had a dynasty long enough that they can handle a couple years of the basement.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bf3351</b></div><div>No they owe the Kings draft luck</div></div>

As far as I'm concerned the red wings are so bad they should be excluded from the lottery lol. I'm very anti tanking - I think the lottery is fantastic. Teams should not be rewarded for being bad in my opinion.

I think it's incredibly unlucky for some teams and incredibly lucky for others, but thats how a random system works.

I firmly believe that there should be a threshold teams must hit to be lottery eligible (maybe 50 points). I understand people complain this will make bad teams worse, but I also believe it will make teams like detroit make changes so they aren't a laughing stock. This is just my opinion and I think it would be cool. If you look at colorado, they had 48 points, drafted mackinnon and got 98 the next year. Don't tell me they were one mackinnon away from 50 more points per season lol. There were many things that couldve been done to get them the extra 2 points.

Moral of the story, I want to see a team that plays hard win the lottery with some good fortune rather than a team lose 8 straight to end the season.

I was pissed the rangers moved up behind us, but that's cause theyre the rangers. All for the lottery.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23, 2020 at 6:41 p.m.
Thread: Hopeful but at least makes sense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Scoob1978</b></div><div>Especially since he is hurt and not skating. That deal is bad.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>This is misleading.

1. Teams could have claimed Domingue off waivers, that is true. But they would have had to put him on their NHL roster. Now that he has cleared waivers, teams can trade for him and stash him in AHL (as 3rd goalie).
2. At the time he cleared waivers, Carolina had two healthy goalies, so they had no roster spot for him.</div></div>

vatanen was the top d on the market, he's hurt but its likely a real bad bone bruise

based on the other trades a 1st isnt that much, 2 2nds is more or less similar in my mind

And frankly when domingue was on waivers they didnt have a zamboni driver in net. So now they get a d man who was tetering on a first to begin with, plus a backup g

maybe it doesn't happen, but its by no means "bad" in my opinion. to each their own

in addition, carolina has 2 firsts
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 17, 2020 at 3:49 p.m.
Thread: Fitzy Stays Last Moves Need a coach and lines to finish year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BCAPP</b></div><div>Laviolette is a great coach but I don't think he fits your team. He coached based on mobile puck possession d. Doesn't really fit you guys.

I agree on Gallant. Guys like torts should be hired carefully. He is a good coach and can push the right buttons to bring responsibility and accountability to a team sometimes. He's also an asshole who can lose the room pretty quick. Interesting want from you</div></div>

Totally agree on gallant

As far as torts goes, hes intense but he's also proven to be very successful, first in tampa, then ny, and now cbj. He also knows how to be a competitive team and put yourself in a position to win - everything the devils management has preached to this point is compete, coachability, and buy in. Torts will require that and I think he is a perfect coach for Nico, who can drive the bus and lead the buy in from everyone else, the same way foligno has in cbj
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 17, 2020 at 11:05 a.m.
Thread: Fitzy Stays Last Moves Need a coach and lines to finish year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Smitty426</b></div><div>Lavy needs D for his system to work, we aint that!
Torts while I like him, seems like a guy who wears a team down internally
I am hoping for GG</div></div>

yupp thats why I have gallant as actually developing us, but it sure would be nice to have a legit system that works and a coach who holds everyone accountable to work.

Watching the game last night, I cant tell you how many times palms or someone else who should know better makes it easy on cbj to break out by trying to chop the stick and knock the puck down rather than taking the body. First man in has to take the body, and it shows that when merkley was on the ice, columbus was making more mistakes. its that simple. Good thing is Gallant does coach that way as well.

How we can be using the same system for 5 years and still not taking the body on the forecheck is puzzling
Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 24, 2020 at 11:25 a.m.