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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2020 at 9:15 p.m.
Thread: If Habs Move Domi
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JumboJoe</b></div><div>of course they can win, but I doubt it and I disagree about having very few holes

first off, the goaltending is weak. Jones has been under .900 for the past 2 seasons and I don't think it's very likely he's going to be able to turn that around. Greiss had a decent save percentage, but he was the backup for a team that had the lowest amount of goals against just a season before.

The second problem is that Middleton is in a starting role. He is somewhat reliable but is a 7th defenseman at best imo.

The 3rd problem is the 3rd line. You can make the case that Brassard is a competent 3rd liner, but Maroon and Noesen are not. Maroon played on one of the best teams 4th lines and averaged barely over 1/3 a point per game. He's also 32 so he's definitely not improving. Noesen averaged less than 1/4 a point per game. Definitely not viable for a top 9 forward.

The 4th and final problem is that you only have a 20 man roster and little cap space. You would need to make over a million in space just to have a 22 man roster.</div></div>

There’s no question that it will all come down to goaltending at the end of the day, you’re absolutely right about that. I have faith that Jones can be better in a 1a/1b type duo and Greiss has proven to be extremely capable in that situation as well, so I do believe it would be a massive improvement to bring him in to take a load off of Jones. But yes, that will be the deciding factor.

However I entirely disagree with about the 3rd line, I think this would be more than capable enough. The scoring is going to come from our Top 6 and blue line, our bottom 6 doesn’t have to put up huge points. St Louis won the cup last year and their bottom 6 was far from special.

If one of our “biggest holes” is who our 6th D man is then we’re in pretty good shape. I put Middleton in because I think he hasn’t been given enough of a look yet, but that spot is of course interchangeable.

As well, there are a few ways to free up a little in space with the contracts here. I probably over paid Brassard a bit for one, but again if the biggest holes you see are that small then I think we would be in pretty good shape.

Our biggest problems this year were goaltending, lack of Top 6 scoring, and in my opinion physicality (even PDB said the team was soft). This could potentially fix them all
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2020 at 8:27 p.m.
Thread: If Habs Move Domi
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Drjohnson022</b></div><div>That was also due to cap reasons with Goodrow being cheap and signed an additional year and we also sent Tampa Bay a 3rd rounder (that will be like a late 2nd) in the deal as well. So the difference in picks was basically a difference of 40 spots in the draft plus Goodrow. Disingenuous to categorize that deal as Goodrow = 1st round pick value.

I'm not opposed to giving up that sort of value in a trade, just think there are players better than Domi that I would be giving it up for instead. If he is a center, I'm fine to play him there but I'd rather it be a RH shot. If he is a wing, same deal. Meier took a major step back playing on his off-side and Kane is a definite LW as well. Finding some RH shots to balance out a very LH centric group up front is where I would be looking to spend trade currency as opposed to targeting Domi.</div></div>

Fair point, that was my thought process exactly when I made sure to add MTLs 4th rounder in the trade as well. Perhaps that pick needs to be a 3rd though

But out of curiosity then, who do you see as being a better target? I like Domi because I think he would eventually be a center either way once Thornton retires and I want to prepare for that now, but I do see what you're saying there. I think whoever we go after needs to be someone around 25 years old as well, I want someone with experience but we have enough people pushing 30 as is. Also wouldn't mind having someone with a physical style of play, maybe take some weight off of Kane out there. Domi checked all of my boxes but if you had someone else in mind I would love to hear ideas
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2020 at 7:30 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2020 at 7:26 p.m.
Thread: If Habs Move Domi
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMs</b></div><div>Habs fan here. The offer you made is really good because Weber Petry are getting old, they still have 3-4 good years but after that Merkley is a good project. Juulsen Fleury are good RHD, but they are stay at home dman. Merkley is an offensive RHD which is good. With Tampa 1st rd pick makes it perfect. Sending Sorensens to balance the cap, I get it. The only problem, if Domi was welling to play LW, we weren’t talking about trading him, he wants to play Center ( yes he is better at C then winger ). We have Danault Suzuki Kotkaniemi, no room for Domi at Center, but he doesn’t want to go back to the wing. That’s the problem we have. Good trade tho, if we can’t come to an agreement with him, I’ll take the deal if I’m Marc Bergevin</div></div>

Great to hear that perspective on this thank you, thats exactly what I was thinking when I thought Merkley would be a very desirable target for the Habs. I think Domi would end up being a C for us regardless considering Thornton isn't gonna be around much longer but thats great input. Other Sharks fans are telling me its too much to offer on our end so just out of curiosity, if you were to move Domi would you still accept the same trade but instead of the 1st its our 2nd? Keep in mind our 2nd is going to be very early in the round and basically just be a late 1st this year anyways.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2020 at 7:07 p.m.
Thread: If Habs Move Domi
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MisstheWhalers</b></div><div>This is great for the Sharks, you add a top 6 forward which you need and if one of Hertl or Couture get injured you have Domi who can capably fill in, tasking 41 year old Thorton to be a 2C shouldn't be your only option if you want to compete.

Considering the Sharks have $19.5M tied up in Karlsson and Burns trading Merkley hardly creates a hole at RHD.

With the Sharks having so much $$$/term invested in guys in their primes they need not worry about the prospect outlook, they need to worry about winning a cup before this core gets too old.

Can't believe any Sharks fans dislike this.</div></div>

Literally could not have said it any better myself, thank you! Glad to see some people are getting it, we straight up don't have the time to focus on the future right now if were gonna win a cup before the window closes. Domi is the best guy on the market this year to fill our Top 6 hole being he can play wing or center, is only 25, can put up 50 points a year, and adds some physicality as well. He's well worth the trade
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2020 at 6:28 p.m.
Thread: If Habs Move Domi
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gordon_Bombay</b></div><div>I did not realize how bad it looks for San Jose till recently. In two years Karsson will be 32 (with an injury history), Vlasic 35 and Burns 37 making a combined salary of 26.5 million for another 3 years after that. They need to have really good players on ELC deals to be competitive like that. I think already now, you'd have a hard time finding a taker for one of those players</div></div>

Personally Im not worried about Burns being effective at 37, he's as healthy as anyone in the league and will play till he's over 40. Karlsson could bounce back better than ever next year after finally having 10 months to recover from his injuries, but I do see your point on Vlasic. But either way, that would mean our window is open for just the next few years. That being said, our forward core is still pretty young with Couture, Kane, Hertl, and Meier all being in their prime so I don't believe its quite as bad as you're making it out to be, but thats just even more reason to go all in and try to win now while we can.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2020 at 4:48 p.m.
Thread: NYR Big Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RawZuccSauce420</b></div><div>Yeah all good points for sure. I'm not too keen on getting rid of Merkley, but I guess my point is that trading him would have to feel worth it. According to Doug, it sounds like we are still in 'win now mode' so I'd be inclined to believe acquiring Georgiev and Strome isn't outside the realm of possibilities.

For me, Strome and Georgiev are worth the Tampa first, our 2nd, and Gambrell. That's just straight up value wise. I've seen plenty of Ranger fans value both Strome and Georgiev as worth the 2020 2nd (SJS) so I think what I've proposed is enough for sure. Plus the Rangers get a smooth skating Center to fit into their system.

If we were considering moving Merkley, I'd propose this trade:

To SJS: Ryan Strome, Alexandar Georgiev, Brett Howden, 2020 4th (NYR)

To NYR: Ryan Merkley, 2020 2nd (SJS), Dylan Gambrell</div></div>

I like that trade for sure, but personally I didn't add Gambrell just cause were gonna need as many centers as we can get once Jumbo retires and we don't have any high prospects in that position. Id much rather move Sorensen, but I know thats less appealing to NYR which is why I added the extra 3rd rounder in the trade to even it out. If NYR would accept Strome and Georgiev for TB's 1st, Avs 2nd, Pens 3rd next year, and Sorensen that would be ideal, but idk if that would be the best offer they would get
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 13, 2020 at 4:31 p.m.