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Davisoc

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Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 21, 2018 at 4:12 p.m.
Thread: 1 for 1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonesryan</b></div><div>Do you wanna keep Kadri or have a little extra space to keep Matthews and Marner? Someone has to go to keep them and the cheaper options like Brown or prospects don't bring back the return of an NHL ready top 4 dman. Sucks to lose him, but they have options to replace him and still remain competitive</div></div>

How is Brown cheaper when we have to resign him. I would rather take the cap certainty. Plus Kadri brings so much to our team. Responsibility, grit, leadership, he is all time, die hard, he bleeds blue. Dude is a f*cking hero! Plus dude just had back to back 30 goal seasons and he is making under 5mill a year, look at Bozie (love him) this year, and tell me why we should move the best 3rd line center in the league. (yeah I said it)
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 21, 2018 at 3:53 p.m.
Thread: CAR STL TOR 3way trade from Davisoc
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LGBstl</b></div><div>Idk still doesnt seem worth it.

Pietro can land you something along the lines of a 1st, high end prospect and young NHLer

Tarasenko/Parayko can land you all that above plus another good piece.</div></div>

That is fair, it was more so building off a trade a saw earlier. I think you need to add more. I think this is what the Blues would actually need for them to even listen.

Two first, probably Toronto and Carolina. Bracco from Toronto, Saarela from Hurricanes and then maybe Bean. so the Blues would be getting:

+ Pesce
+ Wallmark
+ Necas
+ Faulk
+ Bean
+ Bracco
+Saarela
+ 1st (tor)
+ 1st (car)
+ 3rd (tor)
- Petro
- Parayko
- Tarasenko

And then I think Toronto would probably have to float something to Carolina, maybe a 2020 3rd?
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 20, 2018 at 6:07 p.m.
Thread: STL Deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juice</b></div><div><a href="/users/MapleLeafs97" target="_blank">@MapleLeafs97</a> <a href="/users/Davisoc" target="_blank">@Davisoc</a>

I think you both have a chance of being right with your opposing comments above. It’s simply differing opinions based on how you each value Pietrangelo and the Leafs’ D prospects.

Personally, I’m skeptical on Liljegren. Mono is not the sole reason he dropped that far in the draft. Other teams must have seen something in his game that gave them cause for concern. Is it possible that Liljegren or Sandin might one day play at the level of Pietrangelo? Sure. I just don’t think it’s probable which is why I would pull the trigger on a deal like this.

That being said, I think it’s a much safer play for Dubas to make low risk additions (pending UFAs) at the deadline and give his D prospects time to develop and hopefully contribute at some point while on entry level contracts.

This website wouldn’t be any fun tho if we all just rolled with the ‘safe’ approach</div></div>

I personally dont think Sandin or Lili will be Petro level as individuals. I think them growing as a pair is where you will see that value. Just my take, you know?
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 20, 2018 at 4:02 p.m.
Thread: STL Deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MapleLeafs97</b></div><div>Typical leafs fan that thinks Liljegren is looking amazing. Sandin is already out preforming him with lesser deployment and being an entire year behind. Neither of these two will ever be on Pietrangelo level. With that being said, if this deal included Sandin I wouldn't touch it. Just like if it included Parayko. His cap hit and term is appealing but is very well suited for someone with such limited offensive upside (the big slapshot is nice). Petro is under contract through next year as well which just so happens to line up perfectly with Marleau coming off the books. Petro will then want to get paid, and so he shall as one of the league's premier defensemen. If you get a chance to trade a 30th overall pick, a defenseman that may never succeed in the big leagues and a forward that can produce at a 20 goal pace playing alongside a top 5 center in the league, for Petro you take it.</div></div>

That comment gets so old. I hate the typical leaf fan comment. I forgot points mean everything, thanks for that great insight!
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 19, 2018 at 11:16 a.m.
Thread: Save moneyimprove d core
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div>Even then, I don't see why they do it? Johnsson had a good season last year in the AHL, got a bunch of press for it, and suddenly became a decent enough prospect, but it would still mean subtracting from a very solid D-core to maybe potentially add a bit up from?

Honestly, if a team is going to fill that need for you, it's going to require more than you're willing to pay. Want to know why the Ducks have such a solid d-core? Because none of Fowler, Lindholm, Montour, Manson or Larsson were rushed or traded in some overpay scenario to do a short-ish term upgrade. Wait and let Liljegren/Sandin develop. Then you've got those two, Reilly, Dermott and Zaitsev. Not amazing, but still very, very solid.</div></div>

This is actually the opinion I share myself. I believe we should wait and develop as well. A lot of these trades I would only do because they make sense for the Leafs, very rarely do they make sense for the other team, which then creates this tension. I think the ducks need to really upgrade their forward unit. However, I dont see them doing it through trading their D-core. That core can keep them relevant, which is important.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 19, 2018 at 11:04 a.m.
Thread: Save moneyimprove d core
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div>But ask yourself "Why would the Ducks do this?". Why? He's got 2 cheap years, plus another season as an RFA. Why would they move him? They're a playoff team. Zaitsev doesn't make them better. A middling prospect doesn't make them better. A late 2nd rounder doesn't make them better. Why? "Here, take 6 years of this defenceman that we've soured on because we've decided that we're more of a contender than you". No. Not a chance.</div></div>

Oh, from the Ducks point of view it makes ZERO sense. Sorry, if it is a Toronto trade, I am only going to care about Torontos point of view. I dont really care about the other team lol. But you are right, realistically it would need to be an NHL ready player, maybe Johnnson and a 1st. To make it worth while for the Ducks?