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Forum: GM GameMay 31, 2017 at 3:43 p.m.
Thread: Unrestricted Free Agent discussion
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ricochetii</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>phillyjabroni</b></div><div>I dont agree with the idea of the waiver order. I think that we should make it was close to real life as possible.

each team should submit the players that they are interested in to the BOGs. after doing that, the most commonly selected player will go trust through the procedure that I have laid out. <em>the players that they submit are the only ones that they can bid on through the UFA process, to keep all fairness in the game.</em>
<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zUKDm7GUMSQB4nayio7RPnej3KCqmiJnH_S4Jo1_LSM/edit?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zUKDm7GUMSQB4nayio7RPnej3KCqmiJnH_S4Jo1_LSM/edit?usp=sharing</a></div></div>

We need a tie-breaker method. There are some UFA's who will be on max ELC's and we at least need a way to determine who gets them.
It would also work for any situation where there are 2 matching highest bids.

Your thing you set up would need some opinions from the BOG to start. That's a lot of work and can get really messy. We can't even get people to format their picks and posts properly to help keep things organized.</div></div>

Look, it should breakdown like this:

Cap hit per year cannot exceed 9 mil for players under the age of 35.
Cap hit per year cannot exceed 6 mil for players 35+.

Team that owns the rights to a UFA is the home team. This team should have a two day window to offer one player, in which they have the rights to, a max contract of 8 yrs at 9 mil per. If they choose not to go this route, the said play goes into the free agency pool. Each team is required to submit a list of 3 players, listed by priority, and the offer they wish to submit.

Home team has the right to match an offer to a free agent they hold the rights to.

For example: Buffalo holds rights to Cody Franson. He reaches the open market. Say Chicago offers 4yrs at 3 mil per. Vegas offers 3 yrs at 2.75 mil. Buffalo offers 2 yrs at 2.5 mil per. Buffalo has the option to match that offer to retain. However, they must match term and amount per. If Buffalo chooses to pass, Vegas gets an opportunity to match. Same deal for Vegas. If they choose to pass, Chicago is rewarded the player.

Example 2: Buffalo owns the rights to Franson. They do not pursue an offer on him. Neither does Vegas, then the player goes to the team who offered the most money per yr. If there is a tie, the team who offered the most term ends up with the player. If both offers are exactly identical, then it should go by the waiver process.

This creates two things:
1 Strategy
2 Competition

These two things will make sure no one offers stupid contracts.

This allows people to sign players short term or long term.

What do you think?
Forum: GM GameMay 21, 2017 at 11:09 a.m.
Thread: Board of General Managers Official Thread
4-0 yup.

Also I think some people have forgotten that a team can't reacquire a player after trading him with retention for a full year . Example NYR can't trade for Girardi with the Isles since he was traded with retention from there.

CBA:

<em>Once a retained salary transcation has occured, there are various limitations, such as:
A team cannot reacquire a player whom they have retained salary from for a minimum of one year after the date of the transaction, or unless the player's contract expires or is terminated prior to the one-year date.
All teams involved in a retained salary transaction will have cap implications if the contract is bought out or terminated.
Teams who retain salary on a players contract, will have the full value of the cap hit act against the teams salary cap total, regardless of whether the player is reassigned to the minors by their current team.</em>
Forum: GM GameMay 19, 2017 at 5:13 p.m.
Thread: Board of General Managers Official Thread
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ricochetii</b></div><div>Another factor in favoring longer terms for expensive signings as well; High values significantly impact long term projections and prevent teams from being able to keep their "core" together and re-sign their own RFA's. Punishment for over-bidding on players for ridiculous amounts + term is self-fulfilling.</div></div>

Could we group players into "classes" of sorts where each class has a certain minimum and maximum contract length? For example, players like Shattenkirk, Oshie, and bishop would be in a class where minimum years is like 5 and max is 7 or 8 for the rights holding team. Players like Sam Gagner, Thomas Vanek, and those types in a separate class where minimum offers are 2 years and max are 5 or something like that?
Forum: GM GameMay 17, 2017 at 1:42 a.m.
Thread: GM Game - New York Islanders
<strong>The Advanced Stats Bible</strong> (Okay not really but it's still good info)

So Rangers, I'm going to try and explain a.) what those fancy stats mean, and b.) how to contextualize them and be able to gain valuable information from the statistics.

First let's cover the one thing about statistics. They are NOT the end all be all in determining who's a good player and who's not. As someone who loves to use advanced stats, you always have to take a grain of salt with them if you don't dig deeper into the player. Personally I try and use a 50-50 split of eye test and statistics, because neither tell the full story by itself imo.

Now to the actual info part...
So I'll start with definitions and explain each term in a later paragraph. The main ones you mentioned were Corsi and Fenwick. Corsi is a measure of ALL shot attempts for and against. This includes shots that are blocked, miss the net, hit the post, go in the net, are saved, etc. So a team with a Corsi For of 60 would have had 60 shot attempts of any type. If that same team has a Corsi Against of 40, that means their Corsi For percentage is 60% and they theoretically are controlling play. Fenwick is a measure of unblocked shot attempts, so it's basically a small variation of Corsi. Fenwick points are measured the same way as Corsi, just that blocked shots DO NOT count as Fenwick points. Overall the stats are fairly similar, just some minor differences between the two.

Now I'll try and contextualize what can be determined from these stats. So in general, Corsi and Fenwick are better served as team statistics. If you look at strictly an individual player's Corsi and Fenwick stats, those numbers may be padded or hurt by their linemates or the system they play under (Ex: players on Boston and Los Angeles always have sparkling Corsi Stats usually because of the coaches systems of puck possession. If you trade those players to another team with different philosophy, they'll struggle probably). However, you can use the Corsi Relative stat to get a good idea of how a player impacts the others on their team. NaturalStatTrick has a entire system where you can see a player's Corsi relative stats with their teammates. A positive Corsi Relative amongst most teammates shows that the player has a general positive effect on their teammates performance. A negative Corsi Relative amongst most teammates shows that the player tends to have a negative effect on their teammates performance. If there's a mixed bag of positive and negative CR percentages... well there's not much you can learn from that.

Corsi and Fenwick also fail to account for players who have their minutes sheltered. There's a good example of this in Columbus. Sam Gagner had sparkling advanced stats this past year. He also put up 50 points. Some would say that makes him a top 6 guy. However, the stats fail to tell the whole story. If you dig deeper into the numbers, you find that Gagner got 4th line minutes at 5 on 5 and played a lot of power play time. That shows his minutes and matchups are very sheltered. He can dominate lesser competition, but against good players he is exposed. Overall, I've learned from this that Gagner is a good player and can be very productive BUT his minutes have to be managed properly and he can't be expected to play a top role. This is something that both the eye test and an in depth stats look can tell you. Lesson here is that you ALWAYS have to look into the usage, deployment, and compare that to the advanced stats before you can think of drawing a conclusion on a player.

This goes the other way too... not to trash on your guy Dan Girardi but he's kind of the poster child for this. Girardi gets heavy minutes but his advanced stats are very poor at best. This tells me a few things. One, Girardi is being played over his head. He is being given high end minutes of like top 4 caliber. Paired typically with Ryan McDonagh, a top end D man, he still struggles to put up even mediocre numbers. This tells me that Girardi, when sheltered, is probably a good player; however, his minutes must be sheltered. The fact he gets hung end minutes but produced low end results shows that. Again, lesson here is that you have to dig behind the numbers to get good and useful information.

Another thing about Corsi and Fenwick. They DO NOT place any emphasis on shot selection or danger. So a single shot from center ice counts the same as a single shot from the slot. That's one big detractor of Corsi/ Fenwick and why it's a stat that is better for looking at the big picture NOT for getting good small snapshots. Personally, scoring chances is a better stat for determining who has played better/ is the better team. Scoring chances is a stat that take shot quality into account. Thus a shot from the blue line is far more meaningless than a chance from the slot. And over time, a player or team getting more quality chances than the opponent has a better chance to win and is likely the better team/player.

As a note on this, the HERO Charts I mentioned before are very helpful because they lump all this info into one chart. They show what percentile the player ranks in time on ice (which tells you about their deployment and whether or not they've been sheltered) and they also show the shot metrics (Corsi for and against) as well as their Goal scoring and primary assist counts. It's a good one stop shop if you're trying to get info quickly. If you have questions about how to read a Hero chart, let me know and I'll get to that tomorrow.

So in conclusion, advanced stats are a good way to get a snapshot of player's capabilities; however, they sometimes do not tell the full story. That's where you have to go the extra mile and do some in depth research to look behind the conventional advanced stats to contextualize them. If you still have any questions, feel free to ask and I'll answer them in the morning cause it's very late right now lol
Forum: Boston BruinsMay 16, 2017 at 3:51 a.m.
Thread: 2017 Boston Bruins Offseason Discussion Thread
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>rangersandislesfan</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BreKel</b></div><div>

He's not....No one has said he is. But he has potential to get there relatively quickly.</div></div>

Yeah, but i think they might want to try and make the playoffs next year and it would help to add a guy who's ready to be a 1/2 d-man.</div></div>

Ok Education time:
1. Bruins are a defense first type of team so they can make playoffs with very average D group
2. Bruins will be a little better next year so playoffs are already a reality with current group.....now you just slot in our many young talents and see what they have - I wasn't sure at first but I like what Sweeney is doing now!!!
3. Bruins philosophy is NOT to mortgage future talent to try and do something (take a run) now, make sure you have most of the pieces, stay healthy and maybe make moves at trade deadline makes more sense!
4. McAvoy will be top pairing D guy VERY quickly!! And it could be this coming season!! It's quite plain to see for Bruins fans!
5. Bruins are set very nicely with their prospects and the big team is very competitive (see #3) so no need to rush anything/ Continue to develop and maybe take Providence to finals for a few years so they get a good taste of what it takes!!!
6. Anybody who is not a die-hard Bruin fan will not understand.....and someone who totally values fantasy hockey more than the real thing will understand even less.....

Sorry for the truth....
Forum: GM GameMay 8, 2017 at 3:41 p.m.
Thread: Entry Draft Discussion thread
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ricochetii</b></div><div>We may not have an option but to use <a href="https://www.draftsite.com/nhl/mock-draft/2017/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.draftsite.com/nhl/mock-draft/2017/</a>

I don't necessarily agree with all of it, but if you don't agree, simply make your own picks and the problem is solved.
If you aren't making your own picks, at least you're having the pick made by someone who has put some effort into his selections.

There likely won't be an alternative until after the draft, which ruins the fun of doing it ourselves.</div></div>

Yup I was going to bring up this site too. I mean the pick is made for you automatically because you aren't selecting it yourself. If you don't want that, make the pick yourself. That person can't have it both ways. It seems pretty simple to me.
Forum: GM GameMay 6, 2017 at 8:39 p.m.
Forum: GM GameApr. 30, 2017 at 8:03 p.m.
Thread: Board of General Managers Official Thread
Threads I think we should delete:
Old team threads:
<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/54830">Old vegas trade thread (incorrect and outdated info)</a>
<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/55609">Old bruins thread w/ nobody cares</a>
<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/54749">another old vegas thread </a>
<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/54719">old canes thread </a>

Random Crap:
<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/56893">Rangers's own thread</a>
<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/54849">Confusing unofficial official trade thread</a>
<a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/57539">Zach's NHL 17 thread</a>

There will be others I'll find later too, that's just the start.
Forum: GM GameApr. 30, 2017 at 7:55 p.m.
Thread: Board of General Managers Official Thread
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ricochetii</b></div><div><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>matt59</b></div><div>Also, I vote yes that the Devils can bring back Kovalchuk</div></div>

That settles the Kovalchuk issue then. I'll take care of that since you are doing other stuff.

Posted to NJ:
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quote:</div>BOG has agreed that New Jersey can sign Kovalchuk to a contract with terms of 1 year @ $6M if you should choose to do so at this point in time.
If those terms are not acceptable, you will have to wait for a real life signing that we can use as reference.</div></div></div>
Quick question, do I have to trade him or can I keep him, am I allowed to talk about trades before I decide if I want to sign him to that contract?