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Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2021 at 12:18 p.m.
Thread: Based on much Debate
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nhl_oilers</b></div><div>Ah the Koskinen debate…. Well you all know where I stand. Koskinen is meh, but overpaid. He needs to go. He makes a total of 4.5M for 1 year, and is a backup. Down below is his stats as an NHL goalie….. as you can see, he has never been the best NHL goalie, but he has been okay. Yes, our fan base is one of the worst, but there is a time that we need to win, and our time is now. We need a good starter. If we can get that, then I would have to say that we will be a good team this year. Comparing him to starters like Markstrom, Ullmark, etc is not fair, because he is simply not as good as they are, also, they played on way worse teams then Koskinen has. That will play with your stats a lot in my opinion, which is another reason why it’s not fair to compare. For example John Gibson, he has bad stats, because he plays on Anaheim, even though he is a top 5 goalie in the league in my opinion. Given Koskinen’s last 4 years, I think his 2019-2020 SV% was a fluke, because he has never been that good since. Anyway, goalies are voodoo, most will play good one game, and not so good the next. But is that the case for old Mikko…. I don’t know. He is okay, but you can’t say he is underrated, and you definitely can’t say he is anything other than an okay overpaid backup goalie.


2010-2011: NYI: 4GP, 2W, 1L, 4.33GAA, .873SV%
2018-2019: EDM: 55GP, 25W, 21L, 6OTL, 2.93GAA, .906SV%
2019-2020: EDM: 38GP, 18W, 13L, 3OTL, 2.75GAA, .917SV%
2020-2021: EDM: 26GP, 13W, 13L, 3.17GAA, .899SV%</div></div>

Why you posted the 4 game cameo as a rookie is beyond me. Then his 1st year on north American ice in a decade should be taken with a grain of salt. If you exclude his overworked 13 game stretch to start last season, his numbers would look much similar to 2019-20. So what seasons were actually a fluke now? See what i did there. Easily reversed your entire debate. I think my version may be the one closer to the truth then yours. The 2018-19 Oilers were not very good. In fact our defense the past few seasons has been highly suspect defensively. I believe the better version of Koskinen is closer to what he actually is. What do you think he would of looked like behind Tampas Defence?
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2021 at 12:10 p.m.
Thread: Based on much Debate
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheBoyDuddus</b></div><div>There is no reason or incentive for Ottawa to pick up a Koskinen dump in a Brown trade. Much like the Sabres being unwilling to include a Skinner or Okposo dump in an Eichel trade, I cant imagine much of an appetite for bringing that sort of asset in while moving a valuable player out. If you want to give a 1st and a prospect for Brown, be my guest but your Koskinen cap dump should be aimed at Buffalo.

Im surprised you think Koskinen is a dump. His numbers are better then any sens the past 2 seasons. And he has 1 season left, not 3 or 4. Teams were just taking worse contracts (more expensive with same or longer term) for lesser returns. Heres looking at you Arizona and Edmonton 🤦‍♂️</div></div>
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2021 at 10:20 a.m.
Thread: Best 3rd line in Nhl
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensibleguy</b></div><div>Yeah I saw the response to <a href="/users/Claesson4Norris" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Claesson4Norris</a>, and he's right that Ottawa doesn't need to trade Brown (he wrote should, I changed to need), and they definitely don't need to add dead assets, but I would if it was worth it and they could be flipped, but it's easier said than done.

Ottawa isn't keeping Kassian for three seasons at $3.2MM per
Ottawa isn't retaining for three seasons at $1.6MM per
Ottawa isn't acquiring Kassian unless he's 50% retained
Retain or go somewhere else, everything else is moot if you don't retain on Kassian

Trading Brown is fine only because Lavoie fits Ottawa's timeline better, but he's a downgrade from Brown, who's under appreciated for everything he does. Lavoie is a good prospect, but he's trending as a middle6 winger, which is good, but Brown is that already, and an above average one at that. Brown fit's Edmonton's timeline, he's a good target to acquire.

1st and Lavoie for Brown is a solid deal for both teams.</div></div>

I agree its a solid deal for both but Edmonton is desperate to move money as well in the deal. So yes to your earlier deals, the 1st, 4th, Lavoie and Koskinen for Brown and Forsberg is same money moving both ways. 4.5 total. Id do this, and without blinking. Now how to dump all of Kassian lmao
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2021 at 9:52 a.m.
Thread: Best 3rd line in Nhl
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensibleguy</b></div><div>I get what you were doing, but Kassian at $3.2MM for three years is a deal breaker, as well as Ottawa not needing Kemp or Rodrigue. Taking Kassian at his full cap hit stalls Ottawa's rebuild, it's dead cap for three seasons. Ay 50% retained, Ottawa can retain 50%, keeping the dead cap at 800K, and Kassian might appear to be worth $800K to some team.

$3.2MM too much
$1.6MM palitable
$800K standard depth

If you want Brown, pay the Brown price and keep Koskinen and Kassian. If you need the cap space, pay the Koskinen price. If you need to unload Kassian, retain or go elsewhere.</div></div>

This was my answer to another responder.



Theyre closer to rebuild stage then cup contender. By the time theyre a cup contender Browns likely gone anyway. 2 years to UFA. Why not gain assets now while still not there. They could probably take the entire package from Edmonton and add a piece or 2 and flip it to Buffalo for Eichel. Someone Edmonton cant fit in their budget but Ottawa could.

I'll add, Buffalo is in full rebuild and getting rid of a 50mill contract for 14 mil total would not likely be a deal breaker. The entire Edmonton package(dump) would be gone. This would no longer be stalling Ottawa

Hypothetically lets say Pinto and a 2024 1st.
If Buffalo called Ottawa and said will give you Eichel for Brown, Pinto, a 2024 1st and Backup A.Forsberg. Would they do it, should they do it. My answer would be yes all day. Buffalo is also short on Goalies and Goalie prospects (Rodrigue) as well as right shot D prospects (Kemp). Now just add Pinto and the 1st to the Edmonton package and Buffalo may think they struck Gold
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2021 at 9:26 a.m.
Thread: Best 3rd line in Nhl
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensibleguy</b></div><div>EDM
Brown, Connor
Forsberg, Anton
Additional Details:
With a couple of potential GENERATIONAL talents at the top of the 2023 draft acquiring picks for that season is good business for Ottawa. They get Edmontons 2nd best forward prospect in Lavoie who could see NHL time as soon as this season. A right shot defensive prospect in Kemp. And a decent goalie prospect who had a tough 1st pro season in limited action this past season. The sens also get themselves a protector for all their youth in Kassian for the foreseeable future. He may be a bit expensive but the sens have over 20mil in cap space. This deal only adds 3.2 mil to their cap, and Koskinen is only 1 year long.
OTT
Kassian, Zack
Koskinen, Mikko
Lavoie, Raphael
Kemp, Philip
Rodrigue, Olivier
2023 1st round pick (EDM)
2023 4th round pick (EDM)
2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
2024 3rd round pick (EDM)

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Keep Kemp, Rodrigue, and the 2024 3rd, and retain 50% on Kassian. Kassian at $3.2MM for three years is too much, I'd rather have Byron, and I don't want Byron, lol.

1st and Lavoie<strong> for</strong> Brown
4th and Koskinen <strong>for</strong> taking Koskinen's cap and Forsberg
2nd and Kassian at 50% retained <strong>for</strong> taking his cap</div></div>

I overpaid to entirely rid the team of the cap space and would prefer that route with Nurse looking at a big raise and the need to have that space available. Ottawa has almost 30 mil in cap space. Id think theyd be silly not to do. Honestly it pains me to do it. Add another piece or 2 and it may be good enough to land Eichel, but that cap hit wouldn't fit i dont think. So i like reuniting Brown with McDavid. Plus the guys insane short handed
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2021 at 9:06 a.m.
Thread: Best 3rd line in Nhl
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheMooterus</b></div><div>Dallas isn't taking Stalock back in that deal. They already have 2 (possibly 3) other goalies after moving Khudobin, so they aren't taking another goalie in return. They also can't take any kind of cap hit in return either, if they want to get back below the cap.</div></div>

Stalock and his cap can be ENTIRELY buried in the AHL. Tullio is a prospect. If Bishop cant return and Jake.O cant get the job done. Stalock is a serviceable enough backup who has playoff experience as recently as 2019-20. Read the trade description before responding incorrectly to what i already covered. Dallas saves 3.3 million in this deal after sending stalock to the minors. They take on zero cap while shedding Khudobin
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2021 at 7:53 a.m.
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