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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 23, 2022 at 5:09 p.m.
Thread:
Dumb but fun
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>Chicago declines that. JP is an example is a UFA, that doesn't have a lot of value to a rebuilding team</div></div>
JP is still a RFA when his deal is up and is 24 years old. Not sure why that'd be a bad thing for a rebuilding team
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 23, 2022 at 12:55 p.m.
Thread:
Kane
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Scooter81</b></div><div>Kane just came off a 95 point season with a team that was absolutely trash.</div></div>
Tkatchuk wasn't a rental. An RFA expected to resign is much different than a UFA not expected to resign. I would be surprised if they get two 1sts, a B prospect and a 24 year old top 9 winger especially if this deal happens during the season
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 9, 2022 at 5:22 p.m.
Thread:
Oilers move foegdaddy
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Funksoljah</b></div><div>Not sure where you get your data from but last season accoring to Hockey-Reference Tolvanen had .7 g/60 and 1.4 p/60, Foegele had .7 g/60 and 1.5 p/60.
So for an extra 1.3 million Nashville gets an older player who gets 1 extra point every 600 minutes?</div></div>
Yes and a second round pick in a deep draft. Seems like a solid deal based on those point-based metrics
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 6, 2022 at 3:17 p.m.
Thread:
Girard so Avs Sign Kadri
Well guys at least I was accurate in my team description. At least you all appear to be very reasonable folks. Especially AG_sweden. Always appreciate your valuable feedback my friend
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 6, 2022 at 12:25 p.m.
Thread:
Girard so Avs Sign Kadri
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>That’s a ridiculous. One of the most savvy front offices with multiple in house candidates for 2C isn’t selling Girard short to a conference rival for penny on the dollar. Seriously honestly assess the trade from COL perspective and tell me they are trading 5 five years of Girard in his prime on a sweet deal. The answer is no 100 times out of 100.</div></div>
Yeah sure maybe Kadri doesn't return and this is moot. Obviously this is just spitballing my guy that's the whole point of this function. The Avs can't take somebody like JPP or even Broberg (unless they banish him to AHL or make other cap clearing deals) to accommodate the purpose of this completely made up scenario. Just relax lol
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 6, 2022 at 11:48 a.m.
Thread:
Girard so Avs Sign Kadri
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>That’s not a real offer for Girard. I mean come on you trade for him and put him in the top pairing, do you really think a 24yr old top pairing capable puck loving dman locked up for half a decade is worth that? You know he is worth a whole lot more.</div></div>
Well as the description for the trade says the key to it for the Avs is they need to 5M cap space. So they can't take on a roster player and in turn lose some of their leverage as every team is cap strapped
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 6, 2022 at 11:46 a.m.
Thread:
How to sign Kadri
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>That’s compher. Not girard to get that done</div></div>
I'm getting torched already for trying to dump Compher somewhere else hahah
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 6, 2022 at 11:46 a.m.
Thread:
How to sign Kadri
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div>So why would Detroit want an overpriced 3rd liner?</div></div>
Idk man I had to come up with a spot on the fly after not being cap compliant after the first deals leave me alone. Throw a pick back to Detroit if you want to make it appealing for you
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 6, 2022 at 11:45 a.m.
Thread:
How to sign Kadri
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>And that’s the situation that is realistic, already reported that his desire is to start in Colorado but the avs have let it known they have a lesser number hat they can only offer. My guess is it’s 6mx4 years.
For kadri to come back to the avs it’s him valuing being on the avs more than his contract
Avs aren’t in a bidding war to sign him, and they aren’t loving a cost controlled young top 4 dman to make room for him.
Would love kadri back but he’s not the straw that stirs the drink that pushed them to a cup</div></div>
Would still have to shed salary for a 6M contract though
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 6, 2022 at 11:16 a.m.
Thread:
Girard so Avs Sign Kadri
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>slater417</b></div><div>rangers decline and decline hard.</div></div>
There is zero statistical evidence, both points metrics or analytical, that would even remotely justify a "hard decline". JPP has produced points at a higher rate and has driven play at a higher rate while being one of the fancy stat defensive darlings. The only argument for Kakko is he is younger. Other than that they are very similar just with JPP being a better offensive driver. JFresh Hockey shows this in an easy format to see
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Armchair-GM
Aug. 6, 2022 at 11:12 a.m.
Thread:
How to sign Kadri
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FullSend</b></div><div>We have to ship one of them out to make room for McLeod and other depth pieces anyways, I’m telling you it doesn’t make sense to take on a 5 mill dman who blocks Broberg’s progression</div></div>
Both Girard and Kulak can play the right side. Edmonton's biggest weakness is it's defense. I think improving that is the number 1 goal if Edmonton wants to win over the next 3 years, in my opinion
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 6, 2022 at 11:03 a.m.
Thread:
How to sign Kadri
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FullSend</b></div><div>3 things: this blocks Broberg’s development, I like Petrov too much and we can’t fit him into our cap situation</div></div>
Trade description notes it's contingent on Oil shipping out Barrie and Foegele. Petrov is nice but with Holloway, Tullio, Bourgault, Savoie and Lavoie in the mix they have to trade one of value to get value in return
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 6, 2022 at 11:01 a.m.
Thread:
How to sign Kadri
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>Kadri is not getting 8m, hes not getting that from the Avs
They wont be moving Girard either,
As friedman and other avs beat writers said, if Kadri comes back to the the Avs its for a discounted number that the Avs wont have to move Girard to fit.
They arent blowing up their team for him</div></div>
Don't disagree but Kadri would have to sign for like 4 million for that to work which would be shocking.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 6, 2022 at 11:01 a.m.
Thread:
How to sign Kadri
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mvp13</b></div><div>If you forego the ZAR signing, you should be able to keep Compher... which is probably preferred, even if it's just for the next year. Zadina is gonna want the bag if he succeeds on COL, so you're gonna lose him next year anyway</div></div>
If they signed Kadri for say 6.5 or 7 they can fit Compher still. Can't remember the exact numbers but I believe after Kadri and the Girard trade I was still around a million over the cap and Compher seemed like the logical guy to go as he was expensive for third line
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 5, 2022 at 6:07 p.m.
Thread:
NUFD
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>Dallas has $10.3 million in cap space right now, with Jason Robertson and Jake Oettinger still to re-sign. Barrie-for-Hakanpaa cuts that figure to $7.8 million. I don't think that the Stars can re-sign Robertson and Oettinger for an aggregate of $7.8 million.</div></div>
This is a good point that I admittedly did not think of and ruins the whole damn team. GREAT
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 5, 2022 at 12:51 p.m.
Thread:
contender
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AG_sweden</b></div><div>Then pay the price to dump the cap, it is that simple. 2nd and 3rd it will cost you. Send him to ARI. Stop kidding yourselves that you are doing NSH, or BUF or CHI any favors. By trading him there.
In fact you are making yourself a favor and screwing the team that accepts the trade. Need to understand how it works. Nobody care if he played 3rd line minutes in EDM</div></div>
Evidently I didn't explain it in a way you can understand.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 5, 2022 at 12:26 p.m.
Thread:
contender
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AG_sweden</b></div><div>In a way it sort of does. Because if they where that valuable they would try to trade someone else right? Secondly since we established that NSH doesn't need or want Foegele, then to move that contract would require higher picks no?
NYR traded Nemeth to ARI to shed salary and paid a 2nd and a 3rd round pick. He was playing top 6 on a contender so the fact that he is playing top 9 in EDM doesn't hold up. You want to move money you need to pay a hefty price. At the very least something similar that NYR paid. NSH has no need to such a move or player. I am sorry but that is the hard reality of a cap world.</div></div>
I'm not arguing this trade in specific I just noticed you spewing the same thing on multiple threads. You keep saying "If he's so good keep him" as if you fail to understand that they literally can't keep him, Barrie and JPP. These are the 3 candidates likely to be traded. Does not mean they are ****. Why would another team do this you ask? Let me try to explain it in a way you can wrap your head around.
Team A (with cap space) trade a cheaper, worse player (or pick) to Edmonton to upgrade depth. Edmonton trades a better, more expensive player (Foegele/ Barrie) for a worse, cheaper player (or pick) to resign McLeod and sign another cheap forward. Both teams have different motives for making the trade. The cap forces teams to trade players in order to keep others. Crazy how that works ain't it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 5, 2022 at 12:08 p.m.
Thread:
contender
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AG_sweden</b></div><div>No he is not. And the rest of the league knows it, so stop the embarrassment and accept it.
It is hard to argue your point when it is based on nothing</div></div>
It's literally a cap move. Oilers are willing to downgrade at Foegele's position for less money if they can improve elsewhere. It's how the cap works. Edmonton would gladly keep Foegele or Barrie for that matter if they could but they can't in order to resign McLeod so the only options are to trade a player they would prefer to keep. I don't get how so many people fail to understand this simple concept. Just because a team is trying to trade a player doesn't mean they suck
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 28, 2022 at 10:08 a.m.
Thread:
Barrie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Then keep him, because no one is going to pay for Tyson Barrie right now</div></div>
I'll make sure to pass your expert opinion on to Holland. Cheers
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 28, 2022 at 10:02 a.m.
Thread:
Barrie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>
If Edmonton want to dump Barrie, fine, but they're going to have to pay a lot to do it. Multiple years of 4 million for a player that EDM want to move? You're not going to get positive value in this market. Bjorkstrand got a 3rd and a 4th back. You're not getting value for a rough D man</div></div>
The only reason there are rumours Edmonton is willing to move Barrie is because they believe they can get value for him. Makes no sense to pay to dump a player who is effective and the team has no replacement for. People see rumours of a player being shopped and just assume they are terrible it's pretty funny.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 27, 2022 at 8:12 a.m.
Thread:
2022 2023 Edmonton Oilers
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>But why do we, of all people, at the bottom of the cap table, need LTIR list guys?</div></div>
Why are you complaining you get free fourth round picks lol this trade actually makes no sense for Edmonton as they don't need to dump them and could likely "sell" their LTIR contracts to a cap-strapped team
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 26, 2022 at 4:31 p.m.
Thread:
Cap Crunch Pujli stays
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boomer125</b></div><div>Not salty at the moment, and you can't say Ceci and Barrie are good with a straight face, and Campbell does have hip and groin problems he just does, and the Oilers do have a leaky defense that has not improved</div></div>
They were good enough to get em to the conference finals
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 21, 2022 at 7:38 p.m.
Thread:
Shango and Mercer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Alfie11</b></div><div>take out severson and you’d probably still get puljujarvi lol. If you’re willing to let Ottawa talk extension and they get him for a reasonable number (5x6mil or something), you could get a decent haul for him on his own</div></div>
Clearly you haven't been paying attention to that sitch. Oil already said they aren't trading him for just a pick
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 21, 2022 at 7:35 p.m.
Thread:
worst contracts in the league today
What in the sweet baby jesus.... some of these contracts are actually good
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 21, 2022 at 6:34 p.m.
Thread:
Dreams
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Add McDavid</div></div>
Was going to but figured I'd need to add in a first as a sweetener to take his contract and decided NJ wouldn't want the cap issues instead.
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