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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 14, 2023 at 12:40 p.m.
Thread: My ask
I think you'll end up being disappointed in the return you get for helle if he does end up getting moved. NJ isn't remotely interested in paying that high of price for a goalie (for the trade and the extension). There are more affordable options in the goaltending market. They might even choose to run it back with Vitek and Schmid/cheap backup and upgrade elsewhere. Time is not on the jets' side. They probably need to get a helle deal done before the season starts because vezina-calibre goalies rarely get traded during the season. Winnipeg is definitely stuck between a rock and a hard place with this one. I hope you guys manage to trade helle and get a good return for him because it sucks losing the face of the franchise for a bad return but the devils won't be interested in paying anywhere near that. I would love helle on the devils though.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 21, 2023 at 1:12 p.m.
Thread: Go to Helle
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Everybody with the silliness of leverage. What is this leverage that NJ has to force unneeded players on the Jets? Winnipeg has a whole season to wait for a deal they want.

I can't see them having a problem finding players they want in a deal.

I know fans want to believe they can get something for nothing, it just doesn't happen in reality.

NJ has pieces they can use to get Helly, these just aren't them imo.</div></div>

It definitely not getting Helle for nothing. It's a bigger package than what the devils received for Hall and that trade turned out to be a huge win for the devils despite a lot of fans thinking the return was mediocre at the time.

In that trade the devils received
Nick Merkley
Nate Schnarr
Kevin Bahl
2020 1st (which they used to draft Mercer)
2021 3rd (which they traded for Siegenthaler)

Even if the assets they receive don't perfectly fit their needs they can always use those assets to acquire others that do. A lot of the time it's about getting the best package in return and not necessarily the one that fits their needs the most (especially since needs can change very quickly) and if this is the best package they get offered it's a good return to jump start the rebuild.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 23, 2022 at 6:28 p.m.
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Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 19, 2022 at 5:08 p.m.
Thread: blockbuster with SJS and WPG
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>I wouldn't move a 1st nor Holtz for Meier.

Meier is having career year, but ppg up 75%, WAR up 150%.
Not sure that is sustainable.
Maybe, but not gambling on it.

And sweet Jeebus...Sharks fans are saying no to this.</div></div>

Trading for Meier is a huge gamble for sure going off his long track record in the NHL it's hard to justify that he'll keep up the pace he's on this year in the future. You have to hope at the minimum he keeps up a level of play in between this year and his career and that he's willing to take significantly less than his QO. If the sharks are serious about rebuilding you can't pass up this haul for a player likely having a career year and that you probably won't be able to afford a year from now or that you probably shouldn't keep if you are trying to tank for high draft picks.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 19, 2022 at 5:03 p.m.
Thread: blockbuster with SJS and WPG
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rob32sjsharks</b></div><div>Reimer has been a huge upgrade in San Jose and has a solid resume, he would be ideal to add as a 1-B/ starter to pair with a younger guy like Blackwood as a mentor. he makes more sense and sharks didn’t deal Middleton for Kahkonen just to move him in the offseason.</div></div>

Reimer has been good this year for the sharks I agree. From the devils' perspective though Käkkönen has more value because of age and his underlyings are decent. I don't think they can afford to risk acquiring an older goaltender for the 3rd year in a row which makes more sense to trade for Käkkönen or Hill over Reimer. Sharks may not be willing to move käkkönen because they just acquired him but the same can be said for basically all 3 goalies in Reimer Käkkönen and Hill but with Strauss Mann also signing with San Jose. I assume at least one of those 3 gets moved. From a devils' perspective Reimer is the goalie I'd be the least interested in acquiring and I definitely wouldn't do it at a significant cost if I did.