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Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 8, 2021 at 12:08 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 26, 2021 at 9:50 p.m.
Thread: Fair value for Taylor Hall and Brandon Montour
I don't think you can use Hall to Arizona as a way of gauging his current value. When he was traded to Arizona he wasn't that far removed from being MVP, had 25 pts in 30 games, was making $6m a year without a flat cap, and had no kind of clause. As it stands, Hall has an $8m cap hit with the flat cap, has 17 pts in 32 games with only 2 of those pts being goals, and a no movement clause on top of everything. Don't get me wrong, I don't think you're wrong in saying that a top 6 former MVP winger should probably be valued at least a late 1st in a normal year, but in the current environment and the narrative surrounding him the price is likely a 2nd.

The Pageau trade was a also different IMO because the Isles traded that haul for him with an extension already agreed upon, so I don't believe Lou would be all that eager to trade a 1st here when that 1st may be important in their upcoming off season and the expansion draft. However, I think Lou would probably entertain the idea of a 1st if Buffalo would consider taking someone like Komarov or Hickey who would help the Isles cap issues in following years.

Idk if it's crazy, but teams commonly move up into the late 1st round by giving up a 2nd + a 3rd round pick meaning I think you could say that the Isles sending Komarov + 1st for Hall may be relatively fair value if you consider Komarov and a 3rd for cap space + a 2nd for Hall with no retention to be about the same value? Idk this is off the top of my head lol
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 22, 2021 at 5:41 a.m.
Thread: Offense depth and leadership
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dello4tron</b></div><div>Probably too much for Hall.
Is Bellows on the outs with you?

I have been thinking Keifer for Hall with 50% retained</div></div>

Isles 100% would do Bellows for Hall retained

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rick_and_Laf_lol</b></div><div>Make a deal wit SEA to take him so they won't take a core player. And Hall is worth more than Bellows</div></div>

Isles most likely go 7f 3d so they'd protect Barzal, Lee, Beauvillier, Nelson, Pageau, Eberle, Bailey, Pelech, Pulock, and Leddy.

That basically leaves Mayfield and Cizikas. Mayfield is not having the best year and most Isles fans would be fine with losing him because the Isles have lots of young dmen like Dobson, Salo, Bolduc, and Wilde who can fill that spot. Cizikas is a free agent so Seattle would have to sign him with their early free agent window, but the Isles probably don't have the cap to sign Zeek anyway.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 8, 2021 at 6:21 p.m.
Thread: Isles Fans - Who Is Seattle Taking
As it stands it doesn't seem like Bellows is even going to be exposed purely because of 27/54 requirement which means he would need to play 19 more games this season in order for him to qualify for exposure. I'd be shocked if he gets more than 5 games the rest of the way as Czarnik has passed him on the depth chart. Aho likely won't be exposed for the same reasons. He needs to play 27 games to meet the requirement and the Isles seem to have no interest in changing things up defensively unless there is an injury. Although, I could see one of Aho/Bellows packaged to Seattle alongside someone like Komarov or Clutterbuck as a way of freeing up cap space.

Mayfield and Cizikas are the most likely to get picked IMO.

Cizikas will be a UFA and as a 4th liner that has scored 20 goals, is extremely good defensively, fast, and a great person in the room I think Seattle will try and use their UFA negotiating period on him.
Mayfield is on a very cheap contract and even if he's not having a great year it would be low risk for Seattle to pick him as a big, physical, and cheap #5 dman.