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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 18, 2022 at 9:18 p.m.
Thread: Ultra-Aggressive retool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>He's not on the trade block. Every report from The Athletic, or Waddell, has said that the team wants to keep Necas. Keeping him makes the most sense. Futures don't help. Carolina's issue is 2C. Necas is the Canes security blanket there. With Necas, this Canes team is incredibly deep. Without him, there are a lot of questions about Kotkaniemi. You're putting the pressure of the market on him and that didn't work in Montreal. If Carolina does the same thing, we know the result. Necas is important for helping others succeed, and potentially being the answer if others faulter too.</div></div>

Talking about the Athletic, Sara Civian literally said there is a 50-50 chance Necas gets traded. And she has the inside info on the Canes. Again, Necas and Carolina are far apart on negotiations. And rather than an offer sheet, you would much rather have a team trade for him and get fair value in return.

And again, if the Canes need is a 2C. They can flip the Canucks picks + their own for a 2C like Scheifele or Dubois. That will be more than enough to acquire them.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 18, 2022 at 9:13 p.m.
Thread: Ultra-Aggressive retool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devsfan25</b></div><div>“Lose on value.” RHD is most valuable position in game rn, even more than center. Severson, Wood, 2023 2nd. Can’t wait for Canucks fans to be disappointed if Miller is dealt</div></div>

New Jersey literally have Hamilton and Nemec, they are going to be the Top 4 RD for New Jersey for the next 5-6 years. They have no need for Marino and Severson. And I highly doubt Severson re-signs with New Jersey anyways, with Hamilton and Nemec in his way on the depth chart. They get value out of him, along with Marino who they got for pretty cheap, in return for a top 10 forward in the NHL. A JT Miller-Hughes-Bratt line can easily put up 80+ points each and make them a force to come on offense for years. This trade literally puts New Jersey over the top, and a solid playoff team in the East, I highly doubt Fitz declines. He has been after JT Miller for a long time as well, and finally has the assets to pull of a trade
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 18, 2022 at 9:05 p.m.
Thread: Ultra-Aggressive retool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>My dude, his agent can ask for whatever the hell he wants. After a season where he had 35 points in the first 2 months and finished the year with 5 total points from December to May and got demoted to the fourth line? He's not making more than 3.5. He's not arb eligible. Let him go look for an offer sheet. No one will sign him to what he wants. Either that, or you let him sign a deal and come back to the team. Trading Necas would be in a deal that works for Carolina now. Necas has more value than these picks to a team like... (PURE EXAMPLE) Boston in a Pastrnak trade. drafted, young, proven NHL players have more value than magic beans. There's no reason to take futures for him. They do nothing to make the team better now, and that's the goal at the end of the day.</div></div>

Canucks would literally sign him to what he wants, which is around $5x6. And rather than sign an offer sheet, and make an enemy of Carolina. The Canucks give them fair value, in terms of a 1st, 2nd and 3rd round pick. And Carolina would not put him on the trade block if they weren’t to move him. And they will not get an offer better than that. Again, they don’t have to keep the picks. They can trade them at the trade deadline in a package for Pastrnak or whichever player becomes available. They are deep on offense anyways. Trading Necas gives Carolina a lot of cap flexibility as well
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 18, 2022 at 8:47 p.m.
Thread: Ultra-Aggressive retool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac2000</b></div><div>Hurricanes politely decline. While 2023 is a very deep draft, Necas' upside is better than anyone that is drafted after I'd say 9 in this upcoming draft, but I understand the argument down to 13 right now. Canes need someone who can help take the load of KK at 2C and if that doesn't work, Necas will be of more value than an extra prospect in an incredibly deep draft. I think for Carolina, someone like Horvat at the deadline for Necas might make sense, but futures right now doesn't make sense.</div></div>

The point is Carolina can’t afford to pay Necas what his agent wants, and still be cap compliant. They have little to no cap space. And after this season, he is a huge question mark. He has been on the trade block for a while now. And I doubt any team pays more than this for Necas. Carolina can flip these assets at the trade deadline too, they don’t need to keep the picks
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2021 at 1:35 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2021 at 10:17 a.m.
Thread: AGGRESSIVE off season come on Jim
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>Nobody can produce as much as him on the Wild?

Lol, Kaprizov exists you know. He outproduced Miller this year. And unlike Miller was actually good defensively too.

Miller:
https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/m/millejt01.html

Kaprizov:
https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/k/kapriki01.html

And please by all means provide some links to these articles that say we made an offer for Demko. Because if we had our Athletic beat-writer Michael Russo would of said that we were interested, or that we were actively trying to get him, but he never did. He did report that we were pursuing MAF, extensively so. But not a peep about in regards to Demko.

And before you try and argue otherwise, Russo is easily one of the best sports journalists and beat-writers in sports there is. He's more plugged in to the team than most 'insiders'.</div></div>

First, everybody this season on the Canucks was terrible. The last 2 seasons with the Canucks, regular season and playoffs, JT Miller has 136 points in 139 games. And btw that is playing GREAT defensively, he is a workhorse in the D-zone and wins an insane amount of puck battles. While Kaprisov played against California teams this season and had 54 points in 62 games, a point per game of 0.87. Whereas JT Miller's point per game is 0.98 in a much bigger sample size. Also they had literally the same points per game this season, I have no idea what you are talking about. And again, JT Miller actually plays on the penalty kill, and is an aggressive power forward. JT Miller adds grit and physicality, while also being a playmaker and a sniper. He is a complete hockey player. Whereas Kaprisov has only played one season in the league, in the worst division. JT Miller is better than anybody to play for your franchise, and he is the 3rd best forward on the Canucks. And that is not taking into account Brock Boeser's huge improvement in his D-zone play this season, where he was literally Mark Stone lite.

And the Canucks have The Atheltic too, guys like Harman Dayal and Thomas Drance that are just as invested in the team and they have reported the same. David Pagnotta literally got the story in the first place after he heard word from his insider with the Minnesota Wild. Elliote Friedman came on Vancouver radio and all but confirmed it. The value for Dumba was a good young goalie that was a backup in the NHL. If you think you will get a King's ransom for him than you are delusional when you will lose him for nothing in expansion anyway
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 24, 2021 at 10:25 p.m.
Thread: AGGRESSIVE off season come on Jim
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Viqsi</b></div><div>If you want us to take on Tyler Myers, <strong>you</strong> pay <strong>us</strong>, not the other way around. Take him out of the deal entirely and that's still not enough for Jones - the ask is for a top-quality blue-chip "future core" prospect or equivalent pick, and a high quality "future solid contributor" prospect or equivalent pick, and an extra pick as a sweetener. You've got the latter two, but you're missing the big one, and instead substituting a cap dump.</div></div>

you do know my offer is more than Vancouver got for Ryan Kesler, a Selke winner and finalist for literally all his career. And it is the same Vancouver paid for JT Miller except it is a top 10 pick. You are vastly overestimating Jones value. And Tyler Myers is at least a $5M Top 4 RD. Just because he is slightly overpaid does not give him negative value. Myers lead the Canucks in ice time, was great on the penalty kill and was good at 5v5. He was the best defensemen on many nights. He is a good player and adds a lot of grit and physicality which GMs love. Take your homer glasses off and watch some hockey
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 24, 2021 at 10:10 p.m.
Thread: AGGRESSIVE off season come on Jim
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RazWild</b></div><div>Wow, your Homer bias is showing... big time. It's also blatantly false.

Kaprizov, Fiala, Eriksson-Ek, Spurgeon and Brodin likely all have greater value than Miller. Miller is good but he's not as good as you're trying to sell him off to be.

I also don't know where you get off thinking Demko is a Vezina caliber goaltender, because he isn't. Maybe in time he could be but he isn't right now and is nowhere near that discussion. The Wild were never interested in him or went after him last off-season either. We were after Marc-Andre Fluery not Demko.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Clement</b></div><div>I would argue Jared spurgeon even has more value than it

Also regarding his statement, there's nothing one can do but lol ...

Vancouver has exactly 1d, maybe two that will; maybe play on wild DCore. Quinn Hughes the Star, &amp; if Tuler Myers is lucky, he would play on wild as 6th d

As for forwards, Vancouver has Elias P, JT Miller, Brock Boeser, &amp; Bo Horvat as sure thing.

In the maybe camp from Canucks to maybe play on wild
Nils Hoglander
Taner Pearson
Demko

Put these 3 as maybe because while I had/ have heard their names but have zero ideas about whether if they are good. If they are good who do they play over?

Don't think Demko plays over Talbot

Not saying all 3 on maybe aren't good. Just don't know their games. I do know at least I believe Demko won't play over Talbot</div></div>

First Thatcher Demko was top 3 in Sportslogiq and CSA Hockey in GSAx, they two best goalie models in the league. And did it on a bad defense. He had the toughest workload and stellar numbers. He was the best goalie in the league this season. Flower and Vasy would have been bums playing in front of Canucks D. Second, it was literally reported by the Canucks staff that the Wild wanted Demko for Dumba. And again, this was before this season. Vancouver obviously declined that as Demko is worth 10x more. And is the best young goalie in the league (age &lt; 25). Third, JT Miller is a point per game forward, nobody on Minnesota can produce as much as him. He makes only $5.5M. Miller can play wing and centre. And he can kill penalties, along with being a monster on the powerplay. JT Miller is a sniper, power-forward, 2-way and grinder all in one. JT Miller is literally a clone of Bo Horvat except is more skilled, whereas Horvat is more work ethic.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 24, 2021 at 3:06 p.m.
Thread: AGGRESSIVE off season come on Jim
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Clement</b></div><div>Apparently Miller isn't even a c anymore. apparently Vancouver will try to put him 3c in an article I was reading about Miller.</div></div>

The opposite is true. Last season, JT Miller was a winger who took faceoffs for Pettersson. This season, when Pettersson got injured for half the year, JT Miller was the 1C and was extremely effective. And since Nils Hoglander looked like a solid Top 6 F this season and Boeser blew up defensively, was arguably our best 2-way forward. We can play Nils and Boeser with Pettersson. And since Horvat is used to having mediocre wingers and still scoring at a 60+ point pace, we don't really need him on the 2nd line. JT Miller at 3C would give Vancouver a lot of depth. But I would much rather have another legit 1st line with Horvat and JT Miller together with Pearson. Also that idea has only been discussed by fans on social media. The team management has yet to speak on it
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 24, 2021 at 2:44 p.m.
Thread: AGGRESSIVE off season come on Jim
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Cannon</b></div><div>Right Myers led your team in ice time in a year where you vastly underperformed. I think you found your problem. Also the contract length is a detriment as he’s only going to be getting worse and seeing your cap issues, we don’t intend to help you out of your problem without any compensation. Yes you’ve offered us a 9th overall pick in a draft where the top end talent isn’t as glorified making the puck worth less than in a normal season. (Still holds great value). Also going off of this trade where there is an extension in place, your getting a precieved top 10 defenseman for 7x7 a bargain in the eyes of most gms. So no with the extension in mind we will be requiring much more on top of the offer. The 9th pick is a start, we other higher end assets otherwise have a nice day Mr. Benning. -jarmo</div></div>

Who said Vancouver will have sign and trade as part of the deal? Seth Jones has connections to the staff in Vancouver, he played under Travis Green and Kyle Gustafson in Portland. He played under Brad Shaw in Columbus. And knows a lot of guys like JT Miller, Brock Boeser and Quinn Hughes from the US program. It won't take a lot to convince him to re-sign. It is also a Canadian market where hockey is by far the number one sport. And Mark Stone with Vegas was very similar. The sign and trade was not really part of the deal as Stone wanted to be there as soon as he got there.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 24, 2021 at 2:09 p.m.
Thread: AGGRESSIVE off season come on Jim
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Cannon</b></div><div>You should look at our trade block too. Jones is on it and so is the return, a first, a high prospect and a second as the way into the negotiations. It being the 9th pick nullified the 2nd but while it works for Your cap it doesn’t work for ours. We wouldn’t take Myers for nothing as he’s not worth his cap hit or money owed. He’s a dump to us so what else are you sending to us to compensate us for reliving you of your cap issues with Myers? If not we can look for another trade without a dump involved.</div></div>

Tyler Myers led the Canucks in ice time this season and had a very good year. He blocks shots, adds physicality and is tough to play against. He is a good Top 4 D and is at most overpaid by $1M. And again, unlike Seth Jones, he is under contract for 2 more years and will be a stop-gap option to replace Jones until the re-tool is complete. And the 9th overall pick (Kent Johnson, Mason McTavish, Simon Edvinsson) + a 3rd is more than it cost the Canucks to acquire JT Miller who is a better player. I highly doubt CBJ get a better offer and if they do, they should take it.

Also Seth Jones wants out of Columbus, a guy who literally does not want to be there is not what you would call a core piece. In a re-tool if somebody offers you a Top 10 overall pick, for a guy who will leave anyways, you take it and run which I expect your GM to do
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 24, 2021 at 1:56 p.m.
Thread: AGGRESSIVE off season come on Jim
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caerii</b></div><div>I don't see why we're taking on two cap dumps to get a bust D prospect and a couple 2nds. Other teams will surely beat this value, as well as addressing our needs. Pass.</div></div>

First, they are not cap dumps. They are overpaid by $1M at most. Beagle is one of the best faceoff guys in the league, is good defensively and adds a lot of veteran leadership. Roussel adds a lot of grit and physicality, which you need to win in the playoffs. Also two 2nd round picks is what got Devon Toews who has roughly the same value as Dumba. Olli Joulevi was also very good in the first half of the year (pre-covid) and the only reason I want to move on from him is because he is a LD and Canucks have Jack Rathbone, who is better.