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Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 13, 2023 at 2:01 p.m.

Thread: Yupp

[The following comment has been reposted from the Vancouver side of this trade]

I don’t think there’s any way either Vancouver or Minnesota consider this.

On the Vancouver side, they’re giving up the two better players (including Kuzmenko, who specifically chose to sign with Vancouver over anyone else) and receiving two long-term contracts. They’re betting on Boldy developing, but if he plateaus, they’re so screwed.

Minnesota prefers the players with term. The Parise and Suter buyouts have left them crunched, and Petterson’s upcoming contract extension would break their bank.

Overall, it’s not the worst idea I’ve ever seen, but it’s still not going to happen.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 13, 2023 at 1:34 p.m.

Thread: Off-season off stasis

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Knuckl3s</b></div><div>Thanks for that, finally someone who can be bothered to come up with a reasonable take regarding the Blue Jackets, the only thing I might quibble with is whether or not Peeke's contract is truly reasonable, even if it's more efficient than Tyler Myers at 6M by a good quarter-mile, not a country mile, but a quarter-mile. Of course we know what a low bar that is</div></div>

Peeke is also overpaid, IMO. He's suited for a 3RD-pair role and probably shouldn't make more than $1.5M, but I always qualify that I'm not a Peeke fan. Some view him as a legit 2RD option who <em>can</em> but shouldn't play on the top pair if there's an injury. That was his role last year, and he ate a ton of minutes. That kind of player arguably has a $2.5M+ value. 3 years isn't too bad, especially since he's young and theoretically getting better.

Myers at $6M is really tough, because of the flat cap. The cap hit difference between him and Peeke is enough for a Boone Jenner or nearly a Beauvillier. That would be tough to swallow hole for a contending team, but shouldn't be a problem at the deadline once things shake out.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 12, 2023 at 5:10 a.m.

Thread: Nucks

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Knuckl3s</b></div><div>Sure, maybe later on when Miller doesn't drive play quite as efficiently as he does right now, but even right now, I'd definitely try to go younger than Backlund</div></div>

I agree Backlund isn't the ideal target but the concept is sound.

I think the biggest risk/reward move the Canucks could reasonably do is trading a winger (Beauvillier or Garland) in a deal for Kuznetsov. That would be betting on talent at a discounted price, but with more risk.

Forum: Vancouver CanucksJun. 2, 2023 at 5:31 p.m.

Thread: Thoughts on Rick Tocchet

I think his stricter style really fits the team. He brings some good discipline and seems like a pretty good guy overall. We can see the improvement of JT Miller which is nice, but also smaller pieces of the roster like Nils Aman and Conor Garland. Our PK has gotten better and our overall structure as well. I'm happy with him as HC heading into the '23-'24 season.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 11, 2023 at 9:56 p.m.

Thread: Grit

No reason for the Canucks to do that

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 11, 2023 at 9:28 p.m.

Thread: Grit

VAN decline.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 11, 2023 at 10:35 p.m.

Thread: Allvin

Aman is a great 4C and has potential, why would you move him for a 7D?

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 11, 2023 at 11:22 p.m.

Thread: How do they get compliant

According to Dhaliwal, they don't have to make any moves. Last year they landed at $0 room to start the season. I'm assuming Castonguay has it sorted. Likely means utilizing LTIR with Pearson or Mikheyev in some manner initially. Or something else but we'll see.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 12, 2023 at 2:50 a.m.

Thread: going into the season

I don’t see a way we get a 1st for Beauvillier unless he plays at a near PPG pace and is moved at the deadline, which isn’t likely. Also doubt we get anything positive for Pearson

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 8, 2023 at 1:02 p.m.

Thread: Would Vancouver Be Better Off

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Thet's a good point. But the Canucks are likely dot finish out of the playoffs with Hronek at 4.4m, now his contract is up next summer, and let's say he gets paid 6m.
Now could they have found a 6m Dman and kept the picks? :That's always the issue when trading picks is the pick going to be cost efficient NHLer on his 1m ELC.?</div></div>

$6M is like a Pesce/Hanifin/Forsling/Skjei type of defenceman. But you make a good point on keeping the picks but not having a 100% chance you sign those guys, or guaranteeing a Hronek with RFA rights for the picks.

Personally I’m fine with the trade, the Canucks want to compete next season, so acquiring Hronek accomplishes that.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 8, 2023 at 9:19 a.m.

Thread: Third party broker

Crazy what a competent GM can do.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 8, 2023 at 8:02 a.m.

Thread: Montreal

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Knuckl3s</b></div><div>I agree, if you wanna look for a dry prospect pool, look no further than Boston, Pittsburgh, Edmonton, Colorado, Tampa Bay, and Vegas. Some of which have legitimate excuses to be as bereft of upcoming talent as they are, while the same can't be said about those other teams</div></div>

Yeah Boston and EDM's pools honestly shocked me when I seen rankings of them.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 8, 2023 at 1:04 a.m.

Thread: Would Vancouver Be Better Off

I am higher on Hronek than I am on ASP so personally i feel we are better off with Hronek.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 8, 2023 at 1:45 a.m.

Thread: Would Vancouver Be Better Off

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I thought it was a bad trade for the Canucks to Hronek. Save the picks and spend 4.4m on a UFA.</div></div>

No Hronek-calibre defenceman can be had for 4.4M. And the free agent class this year was pretty terrible to spend money on anyways

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 8, 2023 at 12:41 a.m.

Thread: Would Vancouver Be Better Off

I personally think Hronek will do well in VAN. He was great last year and is still at a decent age.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 7, 2023 at 11:57 p.m.

Thread: Would Vancouver Be Better Off

Better off with Hronek imo.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 7, 2023 at 11:54 p.m.

Thread: Would Vancouver Be Better Off

I think the Canucks are better off with Hronek. We’ve needed a top 4 caliber RHD for years, and he fits into the age of our core with Pettersson and Hughes

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 7, 2023 at 11:53 p.m.

Thread: Would Vancouver Be Better Off

I think they are better off with Hronek because of their window. Pelikka is years away from being an impact, upcoming season in SHL, next AHL, and maybe NHL after that.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 7, 2023 at 11:28 p.m.

Thread: Would Vancouver Be Better Off

Vancouver would be better off with Hronek imo, especially since they nabbed Brzustewicz in the 3rd round

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 8, 2023 at 7:08 a.m.

Thread: Post EK Cap Flexibility

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rob32sjsharks</b></div><div>I get your a fan of his, but he provides zero offense and his D metrics were abysmal last year. I don’t see him even 50% retained getting much more than a late 4th</div></div>

Actually I am not a fan of the trade.
The RHD position in the NHL is a limited position and not many players to naturally fill it, add in his skating ability, size and wingspan he would be welcomed addition to any cup contending teams 3rd pair at 50% retained.
that's $3M cap hit and $500k actually salary. [Not prorated for the DL]
This is the reason Grier wants him, he sees the 2nd pick return value.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 7, 2023 at 9:01 a.m.

Thread: Post EK Cap Flexibility

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>goodaytoday</b></div><div>You're not great at math are you. SJS took on 2.25 mil in cap with the Karlsson trade. SJ currently have less than 4 mil in cap space. Why would they use that wiggle room to take on your burden for nothing. I would guess a 1st or 2nd is about right to move Myers without cap retention.</div></div>

You are out to lunch, an asset worth a pick at the DL and it costs to trade him - No thanks

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 7, 2023 at 7:53 a.m.

Thread: Post EK Cap Flexibility

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rob32sjsharks</b></div><div>You gotta add a pick! Everyone knows Myers is washed up and Rutta isn’t great but he’s clearly a step up and far less of a cap hit. Even if the actual cost after the bonus is so low.</div></div>

No thanks, Myers is not washed up, just overpaid.
Retained and trade at the deadline nets a 2/3 pick, why Grier wants him

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 7, 2023 at 11:09 p.m.

Thread: Montreal

Maybe Liljegren plus Minten and Holmberg instead of Robertson would make a better starting point.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2023 at 9:46 a.m.

Thread: If a retool is needed

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Knuckl3s</b></div><div>He's actually been pretty non-commital quite frankly, he's said he loves the city while also stating that he wants to be playing on a winning team</div></div>

He is NOT going anywhere.These Peety trades are fairytales.Not much chance in the real world.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 4, 2023 at 10:42 a.m.

Thread: If a retool is needed

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Aebexz</b></div><div>I haven’t heard rumors that he wants out. But he did say in an interview a few years ago that he wants to win and play for a competitive team. He did it without reassuring it was going to be with the Canucks</div></div>

A few years ago in the Benning era.Hes not going anywhere.Just the usual hype from other teams.

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