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Mike_Gartner

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Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 2, 2022 at 1:08 p.m.
Thread: PLEASE NO MORE SANDIN LUNDKVIST TRADES
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBL</b></div><div>Not trying to be rude but if being a RHD always means being valuable, then how about Holl+Sandin for Dahlin, should balance out, no? Sandin and Dahlin are the same age, Holl's righthandedness makes up for Dahlin's edge in talent. Or How about Dahlin for Liljegren to just simplify things?

It's true that being more established doesn't mean more talented (I'm not going to pretend to know which is the more talented player) but it could suggest that he's more developed (unless the reason why Lundkvist is less established is injuries-Sandin missed almost the entire 2020-21 season to injury but he still has 63 more games played, or lack of being presented with an opportunity that he earned aka mismanagement). Regardless if this is a fair swap or more than fair swap, or less than equal it's still a good haul for NYR who may get lowballed anyways.

The reason for the trade is a request from Lundkvist due to not thinking he has a good playing opportunity (which just means an excess of RD), not because NYR don't need defense, he's waiver exempt so he can just play in the minors for all they care if he's not good enough. Sandin may welcome a move because he has the same worries, and as far as I can tell there is a spot for Sandin in the line up now, the only reason the OP was suggesting that this wouldn't work is because he thinks NYR can't afford him, which isn't necessarily true.</div></div>

Holl isnt comparable to Dahlin in the slightest, so no that doesnt make sense. The context of the argument is that Sandin and Lundkvist are equals. Dahlin is far superior to Holl. So youre entire argument is null and void. But even then youre not addressing the fact that the Rangers also dont need him, which is a whole separate layer on its own, there are 7 dmen on NYR's roster right now and Sandin doesnt supplant one of them
Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 2, 2022 at 11:32 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 31, 2022 at 11:14 p.m.
Thread: Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>it's almost like a significant amount of people keep saying the leafs will have to pay to move him. If the leafs would take something like even a 3rd for him right now he'd be gone</div></div>

I would challenge you to find a current cup competitor that has the cap space and would give you more than a late round pick to get him. Only team that comes to mind who has cap space and is a competitor is Minnesota. Everyone else who can afford him sees no value in him because he is a rental.

Toronto is significantly over the cap, doesn't want to loose Sandin, and attached NMC to everything that moved outside of their league min players and their Coredashians. The only players they can realistically move are Muzzin, Kerfoot, and Holl. Muzzin's only trade home evaporated today when Ana picked up Kulikov, so he is out. Kerfoot is the next biggest contract, and is internally replaceable, and every other GM knows this.

The best deal you would get from ANA is hockey swap Kerfoot for Grant. Minnesota might throw you a late round pick, though their fans seems to think that wont happen. Where else are you going to send him?
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2022 at 11:48 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 7, 2022 at 11:21 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2022 at 11:29 a.m.
Thread: Is the dubois package better than the eichel
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sabresguy1987</b></div><div>You do realize the 9th overall pick last year was traded for Garland and ekman-larsson right? Like this is the worst case of overvaluing a player I think I have ever seen. And no I think PLD would be a great fit for buff because of the age of their team, winnipeg is inevitably going to go in a rebuild and has one of the worst locker rooms in the league. Im not sure how eichel doesnt make his teammates better? literally got skinner a 9 mil contract lol</div></div>

Actually that first was sent over for Arizona taking on 2 cap dumps while exchanging a 3rd cap dump.

This is probably the worst case of overvaluing a pick I've ever seen. You might get older deadweight like OEL in exchange for that pick, but you aren't getting a 23 YO 1C.

I guess we're just forgetting all those Hart Trophies and Stanley Cups Olofsson, Middlestadt and Portillo have won.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2, 2022 at 11:27 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 11, 2022 at 1:07 p.m.
Thread: Blockbuster with LA
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>wojme</b></div><div>Have you lost your mind? Cus I'll help you find it. Quinn Samuelsson and the Vegas pick would fetch a far better return than that, if those players were even remotely available from the sabres</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>This is already a significant over pay, and I dont really see why Buffalo would do it. You instead want to take Buffalo's best forward prospect and break out defensive prospect (who was on the top pair with Dahlin), thats pretty greedy</div></div>

Apparently neither of you is literate in English. I said that "the only deal that makes sense for Los Angeles is Quinn, Samuelsson and the Las Vegas pick" (in partial reply to the OP's snotty suggestion in Comment #9 that I "probably" valued Kempe as worth "power dahlin and cozens and maybe the 9th" overall pick). My point was that the price for Buffalo specifically would be more than the Sabres would or should pay. The whole idea of trading Kempe is silly. And neither one of you seems to understand the difference between player and prospect, either.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 27, 2022 at 1:43 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 22, 2022 at 3:13 p.m.
Thread: Next Season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mike_Gartner</b></div><div>honest question, what is the justification that Turcotte is worth Miller?</div></div>

It's a knee jerk reaction, at this point.

Whenever someone offers a proposal for a well known Prospect (regardless of how they're doing), they have to immediately ask for a piece way more than their value.

Aside from the Scheifele deals (which would be fair, at this current moment), practically every major trade proposal from another team needs to have Schneider involved. Otherwise, it's an immediate insult.

If Kings fans don't want an RHD, that's fine. But Turcotte for Lundkvist is at least in the ballpark. Change of scenery trade, if you want to call it that.

But asking for K'Andre, with Turcotte's limited production to this point? Nope.