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OilersinFour
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Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 18, 2021 at 8:07 p.m.
Thread:
samuelsson
MLSE will save a lot of money laying off the amateur scouts for a year. Dubas will spend $20 for a dartboard for the 7th round.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 17, 2021 at 7:52 p.m.
Thread:
Yamamoto
Take him. Pretty sure though a player is not signing an offer sheet for a term shorter than 5 years. Good luck with that on your third line.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 17, 2021 at 7:40 p.m.
Thread:
If Calgary offer sheeted Yamamoto and EDM matched
Oilers wouldn’t match. Massive overpay. Would be pretty happy if the Flames did something like this to burn up their cap space.
Is your next one the Blues giving an offer sheet to Tkachuk. That would be fun.
Forum:
NHL
Aug. 17, 2021 at 4:24 p.m.
Thread:
Trading Matthews
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>Not really. Edmonton lost in 7 to a rebuilding chicago team who sold at the deadline and got swept by a jets team who hasnt had a proper dcore in 3 years. So that GAA really didnt help much did it. And they are running back that team with a worse Dcore, the same goaltending who has struggled hard in the post season and the only good add of the offseason was Hyman and they only get 2 good years out of him before he becomes Okoposo. Thats not gonna end well. In general this year Calgary has a better Dcore, goaltending, and more balanced top 9 along with Vegas who has a better structured team. Edmonton will be lucky to get out of round 1 or 2 even with the changes they have made. Plus if they struggled against a rebuilding team in Chicago and a team who didn't have a proper Dcore in Winnipeg they are really gonna struggle against a properly built team like the two mentioned above.</div></div>
Look, you can’t answer my question on what Toronto needs to do if you don’t trade Matthews which is fine. Keep believing next year will be different.
But if I can try your game - no cup or finals appearances in 54 years, no playoff series wins in 14 years and they went all in to blow a 3 to 1 games lead to the 18th best regular season team with no first line center. But next year……
Forum:
NHL
Aug. 17, 2021 at 3:36 p.m.
Thread:
Trading Matthews
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>I don't think you know much about him lul. Matthews from 2016-2018 was with Hyman and Nylander and scored 34-41 goals in that period. After that from 2018-2020 he played with Johnson and Nylander only getting Marner as a linemate mid way through the 2020 season once Keefe decided in February to pair the two together. In general, Matthews does not need Marner to score. He has done just fine without him
In general your worried about Matthews when you should be worried about McDavid and the Oilers. Holland had 25 mill to spend and he wasted it. Only good signing was Hyman and even that's a stretch. The Oilers you could argue didn't get better they stayed exactly the same if not somewhat worse. Keith is old slow and not good anymore and won't replace Klefbolm. Ceci is worse than Larsson and is a turnover machine, Barrie and Nurse suck at defense and what makes this whole situation worse they are running back one of the worst goalie tandems in the NHL. Then you get to the contracts as Holland gave Nurse 9.25mill way to much for the #2dman behind Klefbolm. When Nurse is making more than Josi something ain't right in that gms head. With how the oilers have been in the playoffs so far would not be surprised if they struggle once again especially when you consider the dcore is bad and that goaltending duo lost against a rebuilding Chicago team who sold at the deadline and a jets team with a bad top 4 dcore and no Ehlers for the first 2 games. Sure the Pacific sucks but with teams like Calgary and Vegas won't be a cake walk. Especially when you consider Calgary will have a new dangerous defensive line to shut down McDavid and as we saw with copp-lowry-appleton that's something we know is very effective against him.</div></div>
Wow, must have hit a nerve. Edm is in a much better spot than Toronto. There GAA wasn’t much different from Toronto last year using a lot of young D so if they suck, what does that say about the Leafs.
I don’t care about the Leafs or Matthews, just interested how they continue to go all in when they can’t win. They have no draft picks and no cap space after last season so how would you fix it? At least Edm is filling holes rather than hoping for this year to somehow be different.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 17, 2021 at 3:18 p.m.
Thread:
taking advantage of Edmonton
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafs_and_Sens_Fan</b></div><div>But Ken Holland might. He gave up assets for Duncan Keith with no retention and then lost Larsson cause he had to use the protection on Keith.</div></div>
Larsson left b/c he wanted to go, not b/c he wasn’t protected. Caleb Jones is at best a 6/7 and was expected to possibly be lost in the expansion draft before the trade so using nothing to get something.
Edm needs a goalie, but not that goalie.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 17, 2021 at 3:10 p.m.
Thread:
Next Szn
That’s a lot to give up for someone who may not yet be proven as a solid number 1 but may need to be considered only if an extension comes along with it. Would be a terrible move for potentially only one year. Would rather give up Yamamoto than Samorukov.
Forum:
NHL
Aug. 17, 2021 at 2:11 a.m.
Thread:
Trading Matthews
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DroverD2</b></div><div>You don't trade Matthews. Not now or ever. You wont get a offer good enough.
Also do you think marner is worthless? He can get a nice haul easy as a top 5 winger in the NHL as young he is.
Nylander isn't overpaid</div></div>
I didn’t say they were worthless, I said wingers don’t bring back the return a center would. Also, who wants to take Marner’s almost $11m contract? The options are limited and likely so is the return.
Has Matthew’s even proven he can drive his own line and still score? I wonder how much he can score if Marner wasn’t there to set up one timers.
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
Aug. 11, 2021 at 11:33 p.m.
Thread:
Theres too many forwards on this team
I’d rather have Koskinen than Drouin if it costs a 1st. Maybe not even straight up. I’m not sure either one is playing in the NHL in a year.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 11, 2021 at 11:26 p.m.
Thread:
yo pierre
Edmonton might be interested in Georgiev for Koskinen plus, but not a 1st. Georgiev’s SV% isn’t on average that much different than Koskinen and it has only been slowly trending down the past four years where as Koskinen is more volatile. Better off just using Koskinen for another year and look at Georgiev next summer for a lot less. Might be interested in retaining money on Koskinen to keep cap hits the same and attach a lower round pick or B level prospect.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 11, 2021 at 7:40 p.m.
Thread:
Version 23 - Mcdavid
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CptMuffin</b></div><div>Ignoring the cap and dollars. Is it a deal you'd even think about?</div></div>
No way I’m trading McDavid for anything as I’ll always lose that deal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 11, 2021 at 7:30 p.m.
Thread:
kaprizov trade from the oilers
You forgot to include McDavid and Drai. Not a chance.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 11, 2021 at 7:25 p.m.
Thread:
kaprizov trade
Way too much for Mr. KHL. No way Edmonton hurts their depth to do that and he’ll want too much $.
Kaprizov appears to want big $ for few years before going back to Russia. Not going to find many teams give up a lot of young talent for that.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 11, 2021 at 7:13 p.m.
Thread:
total destruction
Hyman is an overpay at $5.5m but Yamamoto at $2.5m isn’t. Yamo is barely worth $1.5m.
Keith is older, but knows not to fire Bear/Jones pizzas up the middle of the ice which end up in the back of the net. Huge win for the development of all other five D, especially Nurse and Bouchard.
Forum:
NHL
Aug. 11, 2021 at 1:32 a.m.
Thread:
Trading Matthews
Not trying to troll, but the more I look at the Leafs roster and prospects, I honestly think the only way Toronto has any chance at a winning team is trading Matthews. None of the other big four will net them anything close in assets needed back plus the cap space to improve the "team" enough to win. IF the Leafs make the playoffs this year, it's likely as a wild card and another 1st round exit. He's then one year to his NMC and the Leafs don't want to be stuck in that final year if he doesn't sign an extension and block any potential moves. Tough spot. Still don't understand why they signed Travares as that is probably the root cause of where they are and he won't waive for a trade. I don't see either Marner or Nylander getting that much back as they are good, but overpaid wingers. Centers bring more back.
I could care less about the Leafs, just interesting to see how this has played out. The Leafs don't want to trade Matthews, they just may need to.
I think Matthews is walking to the Kings in 2024 as Kopitar's contract expires so they have the room, it's a high profile market close to home and a team on the way up with its window opening instead of closing.
Please explain why this isn't logical instead of just "Shut up, McDavid wants out".
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
Aug. 10, 2021 at 11:49 p.m.
Thread:
Morgan Rielly
First, Edm has no cap for Edmondson.
Second, Reilly probably is going to get $9M b/c that is what the going rate is for a top pair defenseman. Toronto won't win with a bunch of second and third pair defenseman. It will cost the Leafs just as much to replace in free agency. The reality is Matthews is the only one of the "four" you honestly could get a decent return for and try to retool with the assets and cap space before it's too late.
Forum:
Fauteuil - DG
Aug. 10, 2021 at 7:46 p.m.
Thread:
Habs opening day
Edm signs a comparable UFA 3LD at half the price and keeps the pick. We have enough overpays already.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 10, 2021 at 7:14 p.m.
Thread:
Version 23 - Mcdavid
No way.
If you want Hughes locked up for a while, it will be $9m like Makar. Market has been set, ridiculous as it is. Might get $6.5-7m on a 2-3 year bridge and then risk $10m per after.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 10, 2021 at 6:39 p.m.
Thread:
Building the Starting lineup
Edmonton has no cap room to make that deal. Pretty sure Edm will trade for Koskinen straight-up however.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 10, 2021 at 12:55 a.m.
Thread:
Current Lineup
Lagesson isn't going to be playing in front of Russell. Need 3LD to play in front of both.
Yamamoto has no arb rights. He is getting nothing on a two year bridge deal and can't do much about it. Given he's only be very effective for only 3 months before the pandemic, I think he's getting $1.5m or less. You need to score goals to score $. He didn't do that last year.
You didn't mortage the future which is smart on you.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 9, 2021 at 3:03 p.m.
Thread:
Gotta dream
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>LOL, a backup and a 3rd pairing defenseman for good assets going the other way. If this is your "dream", I'd hate to see your nightmare! :tearsofjoy</div></div>
You over value Benson and Yamamoto who will be a stretch to be 2nd line players. Just because Yamo has played on the second line doesn’t mean he is a second line winger. Dreaming would be suggesting something completely unrealistic like Sarros for Koskinen and a 1st.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Aug. 9, 2021 at 2:14 a.m.
Thread:
Gotta dream
A young goalie with term and a big defender is more valuable than an unproven 5’8” winger. Seattle isn’t just going to hand over two young assets for Oiler garbage.
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