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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 30, 2022 at 10:58 a.m.
Thread: Leafs
-I'll leave it to Vancouver fans to dissect this one but personally I can see the value. I think Toronto maybe adds a little more to make it even.

-I can't see Arizona doing this. Engvall & Kerfoot are the types of players a contending team should be making a move for, not a cap floor team like the Coyotes. Plus, I think they can get a better return trading Chych & Crouse separately than what you're offering up here.

-No idea why Seattle would do this. They're giving up the younger goalie, who had better numbers last season, and is on a less-expensive contract. Plus, you're having them retain, and all you're doing is giving them a pick swap that moves up them up 5-10 spots in the 3rd round next year?

-Can't see Montreal adding this much cap, it also doesn't make sense for them to be adding a 33 year old LD when they already have Joel Edmundson, Alex Romanov, and Jordan Harris signed to play LD next season.

-Sure, Holl probably gets that, Columbus might not be the team but the value seems fine.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 31, 2022 at 2:22 a.m.
Thread: So you still okay with that offense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Allen_B1492</b></div><div>Declined this trade doesn't make Canucks better why do it

Honestly the only team that wouldn't have benefited from taking JT at the deadline are the ones that are holding the cup above their heads at the end of this. He has had a career year for the Canucks that has landed him in Top 10 in the NHL not playing with 10+M line mate. if he does go and I hope he doesn't he will be going for full price

FYI Brock is getting min 7.5M or less with a 8yr contract so probably 7.5M</div></div>

<em>"Honestly the only team that wouldn't have benefited from taking JT at the deadline are the ones that are holding the cup above their heads at the end of this. He has had a career year for the Canucks that has landed him in Top 10 in the NHL not playing with 10+M line mate. if he does go and I hope he doesn't he will be going for full price"</em>

I agree with this statement.


<em>"Declined this trade doesn't make Canucks better why do it"</em>

Can't see how the Canucks would decline this trade if it were on the table. Necas is a good young player with high potential who's age fits in with the current cores. Morrow is projected to be a top 4 RD, Bear could step in right now and take a spot on Vancouver's right D side, and the pick although late is a 1st rounder is in a deep draft. The team isn't a playoff team right now and doesn't have the cap space or assets to become a contender for years to come. In my opinion, adding young impact pieces to the core is the only way this team becomes a contender in the next 3-4 years.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 29, 2022 at 11:51 p.m.
Thread: What I think happens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>Who gives a rip if played well under MS, he’s never scored 40pts or even 20 goals, how did it work out for MTL playing him at 2C. He gets destroyed 5v5. It’s funny you think a 23yo minute eating dman that produces 30pts season in season out without PP1 time, eats 20+ minutes a game and is locked up for half a decade on contract and can play both sides doesn’t fetch more. Oh that’s right he’s short. Give me a break. If COL were to trade him they are going to want a proven young top 6 winger with term plus a kicker. I mean ffs look at what MTL got for the traffic cone Chiarot and you’re trying to tell me I’d be disappointed. Thanks for the feedback.</div></div>

Chiarot was a rental, that why MTL got that much for him.

Colorado, like a few other teams, will need a cheap 2C this summer. I think Dvorak will be traded for a first.

I said you'd be disapointed if you think you're getting more than two 1st in term of value for Girard. I don't thinl COL get a top prospect for him.

Not saying they absolutly want Dvorak as a 2C. A few teams were reportedly interested in him before he was traded to MTL. Maybe COL was one of them.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 29, 2022 at 11:12 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 29, 2022 at 2:27 a.m.
Thread: What I think happens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DucharmetheDOMinator</b></div><div>Easy reject by habs
We have lots of LD we do not really need Girard at this stage in our teams direction
Especially at that price.
I'd pay 1st + Norlinder MAX
Not our best defensive forward who can score 15-25-40 in the future and our only legitimate RHD prospect, and a 1st for 2nd paid LD defenseman
This is not thought out
Just because he's from Quebec, doesn't mean we're interested in him, or we'd pay a kings ransom for him.
Sorry, no more taking advantage of us!</div></div>

<a href="/users/Brian9Rogers" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@Brian9Rogers</a>

Girard was mostly used on the right side with Colorado.

How about Girard for Dvorak and MTL 2022 33rd overall? Pick is almost a 1st.

Dvorak would be a decent 2C for now, and cheap enough to be 3C when Newhook is ready to play top 6.

MTL and COL did good for each others on the Lehkonen trade, i'm sure they can find the perfect deal for Girard.
Forum: Fauteuil - DGMar. 11, 2022 at 1:27 p.m.
Thread: Could Pitts be interested
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gaudetster</b></div><div>Poulin + 1st for anderson</div></div>

No but fair

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>Hoffman has played 42 games and Zucker has played 31. Zucker is a far superior player in every other aspect of the game than Hoffman and it's not even close.</div></div>

Hoffman is getting paid to score goals only, because yes he sucks at everything else

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>Lehkonen is worth a 2nd at best.</div></div>

The chance a 2nd RD pick make it too the NHL is 20%, the chance he becomes as good as Lehkonen is what 5% ? Plus he won’t be as good as Lehkonen for at least 4-5 years. So no, he is worth way more than a 2nd RD pick

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pensfan89</b></div><div>If he was worth what that other commenter said, Lehkonen would have been traded by now lol.</div></div>

Never said he is worth that, that would be the price but no GMs are ready to pay that much

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mr_Gardoki</b></div><div>MTL fans haven't learned from the Toffoli trade. They're delusional about Lehkonen.</div></div>

Toffoli was not fitting MTL so it didn’t need an overpay to move him. Lehkonen is a RFA and fits the team in every aspect. Age, level of compete, speed, etc. Might go for less than what I suggest, but that would be my bias opinion (he’s my favorite player so that doesn’t help).
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 29, 2022 at 12:03 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 28, 2022 at 11:22 a.m.
Thread: Getting a 1st for helping Cap Crunched Teams
-I can't see Chicago trading a recent 3OA pick who's still just 21 years old for a cap dump, a mid tier prospect that's actually a year older than Dach, and a late 1st.

-You *might* get Dumba for Drouin retained &amp; the Edmonton 2nd; you're going to have to add a lot to get their 1st. They can get a dozen better offers if they made Dumba available for trade.

-Weber to Arizona makes sense, I just think 34 OA is too rich a price to pay for the Coyotes. Set your sights lower.

-I can't see Philadelphia unloading a top 5 pick just to get 1 year of JVR off their books. He rebounded enough to put in 24 goals this season so he's still somewhat useful, and he's only being paid $5M against a $7M cap hit. I could see a cap floor team just absorbing his deal for a 3rd/4th rounder, or the Flyers just keep him and flip him out with 50% retention at the deadline. Unless the Flyers are going to be completely unrealistic, I think they realize they need at least a retool and trading a top 5 pick would be lunacy when they don't *need* to clear that cap space.

-The Rangers, however, do need to be mindful of their cap constraints this summer and even though this is an overpay, I think they look to re-sign Ryan Strome or Andrew Copp before they downgrade to Dvorak.

-Somehow this is worse than the Philly trade? You've now taken the 5th overall pick and Jeff Petry and sent them both to Dallas for an okay-to-good prospect and a 36 year old goalie coming off hip surgery that, in the best case scenario, has him back and moving around in late September.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 28, 2022 at 11:41 a.m.
Thread: Getting Younger and 2nd OVA
-Rangers probably take that deal - every sign points to them moving on from Georgiev, and last I heard Kravstov wasn't gonna come back for them, so getting a few chances at ELC players on a team that needs them is a win for both sides.

-I can see the logic in this trade - but if I'm Bill Armstrong I'd probably want to have another mid-round pick coming along with that package.

Let's look at the draft trade values then - I'm going to reference Dom @ The Athletic's draft pick value chart as a guideline - there's not a ton else out there assigning easily digestible point values to picks. Also doing a quick look at recent draft pick trades, the team moving up always gives up a little more value than the team trading back, so we'll always assume Montreal is sacrificing pick value to move up.

Calgary (27 OA = 3.2 GSVA) + Carolina (worst case is 32 OA = 2.8 GSVA) for Washington (20 OA = 4.0) has a lot of surplus value for Washington but I also couldn't see 27 &amp; 32 getting you into the lottery, so it's a safe pick to target. Maybe Washington throws back a 3rd rounder to even it out?

So now you have 20OA (4.0) going to Vancouver for 15OA (4.9). The difference between the two picks would be equivalent to a mid/late 2nd rounder; I think that Jake Allen with $1M retained *might* equal that value - except for the fact that I don't think it makes a ton of sense for Vancouver to acquire him when they already have Thatcher Demko starting 60-65 games next year and Spencer Martin ready to clean up the last 15 or so. For the sake of argument, though, I'll call this fair.

Now you're making a HUGE jump - 15OA (4.9 GSVA) to 2OA (12.3). The difference in value between those picks is equal in value to the 7th overall pick, which leads me to this question: if you had the 7th overall pick, would *you* trade it for Jesse Ylonen &amp; Josh Anderson? It's an insane underpay for the Devils - you are going to need to do much better than someone from your second tier of prospects and an overpaid winger with that much term left.