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Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 11, 2022
Published: Mar. 11, 2022
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Hextall told Lebrun that he would like to add a top 6 forward with term.
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MTL
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    PIT
    1. Drouin, Jonathan
    2. Hoffman, Mike
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    ONE of these two. I can see habs retain if necessary.
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    Mar. 11, 2022 at 12:30 p.m.
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    I don't think Hoffman would be much of an interest, but Drouin could be. I just don't think it would be THIS season. I would expect it to be an off-season type of thing.

    The issue with Hoffman is he's a sniper who isn't sniping and we already have that in Zucker lol and the fact he has a bit of term, it's becomes a gamble. Zucker at least has a good all around game, whereas Hoffman is pretty bad at hockey other than scoring.
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    Mar. 11, 2022 at 12:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
    I don't think Hoffman would be much of an interest, but Drouin could be. I just don't think it would be THIS season. I would expect it to be an off-season type of thing.

    The issue with Hoffman is he's a sniper who isn't sniping and we already have that in Zucker lol and the fact he has a bit of term, it's becomes a gamble. Zucker at least has a good all around game, whereas Hoffman is pretty bad at hockey other than scoring.


    Even a Kapanen for Hoffman trade wldnt entice the pitts faithful?
    Mar. 11, 2022 at 12:48 p.m.
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    No. Hoffman is more of a PP specialist and perimeter player. Not the type of guy Sullivan likes. Drouin would also be a no because of his AAV. Lehkonen might interest them if he is available.
    Mar. 11, 2022 at 12:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
    I don't think Hoffman would be much of an interest, but Drouin could be. I just don't think it would be THIS season. I would expect it to be an off-season type of thing.

    The issue with Hoffman is he's a sniper who isn't sniping and we already have that in Zucker lol and the fact he has a bit of term, it's becomes a gamble. Zucker at least has a good all around game, whereas Hoffman is pretty bad at hockey other than scoring.


    Zucker have 6 goals and 13 points while playing with good teammates while Hoffman have 11 goals 22 points while playing with Dauphin & Gallagher …
    Mar. 11, 2022 at 12:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: brgh4life
    No. Hoffman is more of a PP specialist and perimeter player. Not the type of guy Sullivan likes. Drouin would also be a no because of his AAV. Lehkonen might interest them if he is available.


    Samuel Poulin + 2022 1st RD pick and you can have Lehkonen
    Hoffman/Drouin would come cheap tho
    Mar. 11, 2022 at 12:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: GMs
    Samuel Poulin + 2022 1st RD pick and you can have Lehkonen
    Hoffman/Drouin would come cheap tho


    Poulin + 1st for anderson
    Mar. 11, 2022 at 12:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: GMs
    Samuel Poulin + 2022 1st RD pick and you can have Lehkonen
    Hoffman/Drouin would come cheap tho


    Nevermind. Not paying that for Lehkonen. Hoffman/Drouin come cheap because they aren't that great and cost a lot.
    Mar. 11, 2022 at 12:57 p.m.
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    Quoting: GMs
    Zucker have 6 goals and 13 points while playing with good teammates while Hoffman have 11 goals 22 points while playing with Dauphin & Gallagher …


    Hoffman has played 42 games and Zucker has played 31. Zucker is a far superior player in every other aspect of the game than Hoffman and it's not even close.
    Mar. 11, 2022 at 12:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: GMs
    Samuel Poulin + 2022 1st RD pick and you can have Lehkonen
    Hoffman/Drouin would come cheap tho


    Lehkonen is worth a 2nd at best.
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    Mar. 11, 2022 at 1:00 p.m.
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    Quoting: gaudetster
    Poulin + 1st for anderson


    No thanks to Anderson. Talk about a bad contract. Woof.
    Mar. 11, 2022 at 1:01 p.m.
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    Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
    Lehkonen is worth a 2nd at best.


    If he was worth what that other commenter said, Lehkonen would have been traded by now lol.
    Mar. 11, 2022 at 1:02 p.m.
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    Quoting: Pensfan89
    If he was worth what that other commenter said, Lehkonen would have been traded by now lol.


    MTL fans haven't learned from the Toffoli trade. They're delusional about Lehkonen.
    Mar. 11, 2022 at 1:27 p.m.
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    Quoting: gaudetster
    Poulin + 1st for anderson


    No but fair

    Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
    Hoffman has played 42 games and Zucker has played 31. Zucker is a far superior player in every other aspect of the game than Hoffman and it's not even close.


    Hoffman is getting paid to score goals only, because yes he sucks at everything else

    Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
    Lehkonen is worth a 2nd at best.


    The chance a 2nd RD pick make it too the NHL is 20%, the chance he becomes as good as Lehkonen is what 5% ? Plus he won’t be as good as Lehkonen for at least 4-5 years. So no, he is worth way more than a 2nd RD pick

    Quoting: Pensfan89
    If he was worth what that other commenter said, Lehkonen would have been traded by now lol.


    Never said he is worth that, that would be the price but no GMs are ready to pay that much

    Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
    MTL fans haven't learned from the Toffoli trade. They're delusional about Lehkonen.


    Toffoli was not fitting MTL so it didn’t need an overpay to move him. Lehkonen is a RFA and fits the team in every aspect. Age, level of compete, speed, etc. Might go for less than what I suggest, but that would be my bias opinion (he’s my favorite player so that doesn’t help).
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    Mar. 11, 2022 at 1:34 p.m.
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    @GMs

    Sorry, I'm not quoting that whole thing. Here's the facts on Lehkonen and nobody is saying he's a bad player or anything like that, it's just about true value...

    1) He's a solid 3rd line winger.
    2) He tops out around 25/30 points a year
    3) He's very good defensively.

    That is not worth more than 2nd... MAYBE a 2nd + decent prospect.
    Mar. 11, 2022 at 1:42 p.m.
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    Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
    MTL fans haven't learned from the Toffoli trade. They're delusional about Lehkonen.


    There nothing delusional about asking for a prospect and a first round pick. Coleman got a huge haul because Tampa bay had him in in very high praise. And stop with the bull**** that he is a better player because he isn’t. He only have 9 more goal and most of them have come when he was use like a top line forward in Jersey. Over 17 minutes of ice time. Lehkonen defensive upside are superior to Coleman but Coleman bring some physicality. I would say that those players are the perfect comparaison except Lehkonen is 2 years younger then Coleman was when he got traded. The value is always relative to the market. If there 15 team that are in for
    Lehkonen then somebody will pay a higher price. This is how it work. Not because some random dude on CapFriendly think that Lehkonen should not be acquire for more then a 2nd round pick. If it the only offer Montreal received they will stop answering the phone quickly since they are in absolutely no rush to move him since he have a year left under team control.
    Mar. 11, 2022 at 1:47 p.m.
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    Quoting: GMs
    No but fair



    Hoffman is getting paid to score goals only, because yes he sucks at everything else



    The chance a 2nd RD pick make it too the NHL is 20%, the chance he becomes as good as Lehkonen is what 5% ? Plus he won’t be as good as Lehkonen for at least 4-5 years. So no, he is worth way more than a 2nd RD pick



    Never said he is worth that, that would be the price but no GMs are ready to pay that much



    Toffoli was not fitting MTL so it didn’t need an overpay to move him. Lehkonen is a RFA and fits the team in every aspect. Age, level of compete, speed, etc. Might go for less than what I suggest, but that would be my bias opinion (he’s my favorite player so that doesn’t help).


    People doesn’t understand much about the Toffoli deal but they actually got great return. Heineman is not a blue chip prospect but he is certainly a very good prospect. He have show sign of development. Some people would have want Zary over him but Zary haven’t shown anything good simce joining professional hockey. They also got 2 pick and the major thing in that deal is they don’t had to take back any other salary. That 4+ millions is a great relief for a strangle cap Habs. It’s not always about players value but also cap value.
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    Mar. 11, 2022 at 4:32 p.m.
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    Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
    GMs

    Sorry, I'm not quoting that whole thing. Here's the facts on Lehkonen and nobody is saying he's a bad player or anything like that, it's just about true value...

    1) He's a solid 3rd line winger.
    2) He tops out around 25/30 points a year
    3) He's very good defensively.

    That is not worth more than 2nd... MAYBE a 2nd + decent prospect.


    That would be fair, but I think we fans rather have him with us than getting a 2nd Rd pick + decent prospect. Depends what decent mean, PIT doesn’t have blue chip prospect, so their best prospects IMO are Poulin Legaré & POJ. No need of POJ, so it would take one of Poulin or Legaré and a 2nd. That’s fair, but I would like to get more obv
    Mar. 23, 2022 at 6:06 a.m.
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    Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
    Lehkonen is worth a 2nd at best.



    That did not aged well
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    Apr. 14, 2022 at 9:32 p.m.
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    That did not aged well


    What are you talking about? I said a 2nd at best and he gets a 2nd + a prospect. I was a hell of a lot close than all the habs fans trading him for multiple firsts and prospects. What didn't age well was all those loony Lehkonen trades.
    May 14, 2022 at 4:39 p.m.
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    Quoting: Mr_Gardoki
    What are you talking about? I said a 2nd at best and he gets a 2nd + a prospect. I was a hell of a lot close than all the habs fans trading him for multiple firsts and prospects. What didn't age well was all those loony Lehkonen trades.


    Barron = 1st RD pick
    2024 2nd RD pick

    I don’t think a single habs fan had a better offer than what they actually received
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