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Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 12, 2021 at 4:10 p.m.
Thread: TDL with our friend Lou
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ZachHymanForTheHart</b></div><div>Mayfield is the best option, IMO. He’s got another year, for cheap.

Would probably cost more than you have here, but could benefit both teams.

Toronto gets the defensive help they need, and the Isles allow Dobson to get more minutes.

I’m not sure this would happen until Pulock is back, though.
Or we could send Justin Holl their way to fill a spot for some time, then he’d move to 3rd pair with a sheltered roll where’d he’d play better.

I haven’t watched a crazy amount of Isles games this year, because honestly they aren’t fun to watch this year, so maybe I’m off on Mayfield.</div></div>

Holl would actually fit in well with the way the Islanders play. I haven't watched a lot of Islanders games but Lou likes shutdown lines and that kind of defensive game and that's exactly the play Holl is good at. He doesn't do well with an offensive D and he needs a solid defensive D he knows what they are going to do.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 12, 2021 at 11:04 a.m.
Thread: Trade Deadline
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Babatunde</b></div><div>Nope, the Leafs do</div></div>

The problem with these is that the Leafs need 2 large Defensive D who can clear the front of the net and can be the NHL equivalent of a fullback. They need to be big, fast, a good passer and crush guys. Not crush guys by the NHL definition of a hit but hit meaning take guys out of the play. Scoring and offence isn't the issue. Muzzin isn't able to be the defensive shutdown he has been and Holl isn't able to be the all around defensive D. He can be a great part of a shutdown line, don't get me wrong. He can't be the partner of an offensive D and that's what we need. We need 2 guys who can shut down the middle while Reilly and Brodie do offensive D things. That's the problem.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 11, 2021 at 2:29 p.m.
Thread: TDL 2022
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MauriceArthur15</b></div><div>I feel like Brodie provides that for Rielly, however when it comes to the shutdown pair Holl doesn’t provide Muzzin with the stability on the right side to have effective breakouts.

At this point teams dump it in on the right side as they know Holl can’t make a breakout pass.</div></div>

Muzzin isn't an offensive D and he's been steadily getting worse because age get's everyone eventually. As Muzzin get's worse so does Holl because while he's a good member of a shutdown pair (which Muzzin and Holl have been) he's not a stabilizing partner for an offensive D. Brodie and Reilly being separated and each having their own Defensive D who can cover for their risky plays that go sideways is optimal. We don't have the players to do that. Because you can make Brodie that for Reilly doesn't necessarily mean you should.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 11, 2021 at 9:53 a.m.
Thread: TDL 2022
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MauriceArthur15</b></div><div>Yea Roy brings that’s. He’s a shutdown D-man that a lot of LAK overvalue as you see by the thread as their ask is Sandin or Nylander…

We need that top 4 dman as Holl has been brutal this year and if we want to compete with the elite teams we need that stability on the back end</div></div>

What frustrates me is that people don't understand the role Holl's replacement would need to play. The Leafs wouldn't care about the guys offensive numbers. They want a big minute guy who starts a lot in the defensive zone but rarely gets pushed back there by the play and is rarely on ice for goals against because you don't put an offensive D with an offensive D and it doesn't matter how many faces he punches. The guy needs to be able to let Reilly or Barrie do what they do without worrying about the middle or defensive zone as much as possible. Barrie is wasted in many ways playing with Reilly.